Question about Tengen Toppen Gurren Laggan

[LoudCloud]

So why is TTGL High Universe-level from resisiting the Infinite Big Bang Storm?

I was sure a Big Bang-like attack was Universe-level at best (eg. Pre-crisis Superman, Earthworm Jim etc.) or less (eg. Gumball has multi-Galaxy durabilty from surviving it for some reason). Maybe the implication is that it's High Universe-level because the attack was an Infinite Big Bang Storm, but it's only "infinite" by name and, unlike the Big Bang claim, it's never backed up or referenced by characters.

Granzemboa (who fired the attack) is listed as Universe+ anyway, so would TTGL scale or not?

 

[The_Everlasting]

He's High 3-A for barely harming Granzeboma.

 

[LoudCloud]

But Granzeboma is Universe+

 

[The_Everlasting]

Key word is "barely".

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Wouldn't harming a Low 2-C still be Low 2-C, even if it was barely?

 

[LoudCloud]

So how does TTGL get infinite physical AP (which is what High Universe level is) from barely harming Granzemboa, who gets it's Universe+ AP from harming TTGL in the first place? That's nonsencial.

Their profiles don't explain what feat made Granzemboa Universe+ (scaling to TTGL is just circular reasoning and makes no sense as TTGL is not Universe+ to begin with) or how barely harming Universe+ makes you High Universe-level (the two don't translate to each other).

 

[The_Everlasting]

High 3-A is also less-than-universal 4-D.

 

[LoudCloud]

Still makes no sense in regard to why Granzemboa is Universe+ for scaling to TTGL.

 

[LoudCloud]

Should we ask an admin?

 

[ALRF]

Mate, Everlasting is an admin.

And i don't understand the problem with the profiles

 

[LoudCloud]

I'm asking, how is Granzemboa Universe+ by scaling to TTGL (who is only High Universe via scaling to Granzemboa anyway)? Because that's what their profiles state and it's giving them stats without any actual feats.

Not only does the scaling make no sense but it relies on circular reasoning (TTGL is High 3-A via scaling to Granzemboa who is Low 2-C via scaling to TTGL who is High 3-A via scaling to Granzemboa who is Low 2-C etc.)

 

[ALRF]

Actuall Granzemboa Low 2-C scaling is TTGL after absorbing the Infinity Big Bang which is his Low 2-C Key.

 

[LoudCloud]

How is the Big Bang Low 2-C? Isn't it usually 3-A or less?

 

[LoudCloud]

bump

The following still haven't really been explained:

1. TTGL's first AP and Durabilty stats are dubious at best. It's basically explained in their profile as "It survived a Low 2-C attack for a few seconds, therefore it's High 3-A".

2. Infinity Bing Bang Storm being Low 2-C is never properly explained in the profiles either. Other big bang feats on this wiki are ranked as 3-A at best or lower.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Isn't the gap between Low 2-C and High 3-A huge? I thought surviving a Low 2-C attack even for a few seconds would still be Low 2-C.

 

[The_Everlasting]

No, it's High 3-A for barely harming a thing that can trade blows with a Low 2-C.

 

[LoudCloud]

Wouldn't barely harming it still scale them? Is a character that barely harms a City-level characer automatically Large Town-level?

And why is that attack Low 2-C in the first place? No one has managed to explain this. A previous thread that has brought this up before (which I can't seem to find anymore) just ended almost immediately with an admin posting the equivalent of "idk. It's like confusing and stuff".

 

[Aeyu]

Granzeboma/TTGL were essentially made of a living universe.

That being said, Low 2-C would probably be a better key than High 3-A imo. Low 2-C isn't an infinite amount of 4-D power and Low 2-C's can stomp other Low 2-C's.

 

[LoudCloud]

Then the profiles should say they are made of a living universe (with a link to the evidence) rather than what they currently say.

 

[Aeyu]

Maybe start a revision thread for it, and I'll pitch in.

 

[LoudCloud]

Sure, hold on.

Edit: Here it is.

 

[Aeyu]

I replied.

 

[Golden_Void]

Shall I close this one then?

 

[Aeyu]

Would be prudent, perhaps. The other thread is receiving more replies anyway.