Questions about Metaphysical abilities that are contingent on reality.

[Tanin_iver]

Dependent Concepts: Such concepts are abstract and govern all reality within their area of influence. These concepts shape everything, and changing them would either require the alteration of every object of the concept or, if manipulated directly, change all objects of the concept alongside the concept itself. These concepts, however, exist simultaneously with and are bound by the object of the concept. In this way, an abstract dependent concept can be destroyed by destroying all objects of the concept, restored by re-making an object of a previously existent concept, or changed by changing all objects of the concept across reality. This, however, does not qualify for this form of conceptual manipulation, and is rather treated as a by-product of another action akin to a "domino effect". This type of conceptual manipulation can only be obtained if the abstract concept itself is changed directly, and not by indirect methods. For example, destroying humanity and thus "ending the concept of humanity" would not qualify, while directly "ending the concept of humanity" and thus destroying humanity would qualify.

How does destroying humanity and ending the concept of humanity works? Basically I mean erasing all the Particulars.
What if other beings or entities know of humanity's existence before it ended? Does that change anything, or the concept stops persisting and only the memory exists?

Fundamental: These characters can manipulate information that serves as a fundamental building block of reality. This information is shown to compose reality similar to how data underlies a video game world, code defines the rules of a simulation or in a fashion equally fundamental to these examples. This may allow characters to rewrite the world to their whims, often by programming it much like they would a virtual reality. The ability can come on many levels of potency. The possible uses range from being the mechanism behind mundane magical abilities to rewriting information to change reality, causality or the laws of nature.

Similarly, how does Info Type 2 behave if humanity(or any entity or class of entities) is completely annihilated. Basically I mean what happens to the Class if all Objects of the class are erased in programming jargon. Does it get deleted(as a consequence) from the information that governs reality or does it still persist?

Plot Manipulation is the ability to create, destroy, or control the plot that governs reality. Commonly found in metafictional stories, the plot can be understood as a fundamental aspect of reality once one views that reality as fictional. It is the description of the world that doesn't only describe, but determines, reality itself. As such, by altering the plot, one can achieve virtually any effect, in a similar fashion as with Reality Warping.

Similarly, if humanity(or any entity or class of entities) is completely annihilated in the plot. Does it get deleted(as a consequence) from the plot that governs reality or does it still persist?

In simple words how do non metaphysical actions that result in creation, alteration or deletion of an entity or a class of entities that affect Metaphysical aspects that govern reality if said actions while altering still has a history of said alteration.

 

[Elesia011]

How does destroying humanity and ending the concept of humanity works?
What if other beings or entities know of humanity's existence before it ended? Does that change anything, or the concept stops persisting and only the memory exists?

Consider this analogy. Imagine the present earth undergoes a mass extinction event like with the dinos, such as a meteorite impact, and all humans die. As a result, the concept of humanity ceases to exist as an active concept because there are no longer any objects (humans) to which it applies. This is specifically what is called a domino effect. The concept stops being active because its object in reality has ceased to exist entirely. As such, it doesn't require any conceptual manipulation. Conversely, ending humanity as a concept directly erases the object it is tied to.

As summary:
Humanity goes extinct = Its concept fades as a consequence of "no humans exist anymore"

Target the concept of humanity instead = The physical object also ceases to exist, as the idea sustaining it as a physical construct is no more

In the first case, the action primarily targets the physical or tangible elements, and the concept fades as a secondary consequence. This is not true conceptual manipulation because you're not directly altering the abstract idea itself; you're merely removing its anchors in reality.
If other entities knew about humans before they went extinct, it wouldn't change anything, as there are no longer physical anchors for the concept of humanity to operate as an active concept.

Similarly, how does Info Type 2 behave if humanity(or any entity or class of entities) is completely annihilated. Does it get deleted(as a consequence) from the information that governs reality or does it still persist?

For information type 2, the data would be erased as a consequence to avoid a paradox of contradiction. The data would be rewritten from "humans are alive" to there are no humans or just erase itself i guess

Similarly, if humanity(or any entity or class of entities) is completely annihilated in the plot. Does it get deleted(as a consequence) from the plot that governs reality or does it still persist?

In simple words how do non metaphysical actions that result in creation, alteration or deletion of an entity or a class of entities that affect Metaphysical aspects that govern reality if said actions while altering still has a history of said alteration

This last case with plot is more nuanced from my perspective, but following the previous patterns, the plot is an authoritative script that defines what happens, why, and how. Altering it is like editing a book's storyline, which can warp reality accordingly. If the plot decides to end humanity, there would be no more humans in an absolute sense. From the perspective of entities subjected to the plot, the extinction of all humans may not look like a deterministic fact, yet it could easily be reverted through a plot twist or something similar, as the plot defines reality itself. Humans would just have ceased to exist at a specific moment in the plot, as such it is up to the plot entirely and records of their existence up to their moment of erasure do not create a problem.