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[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

What's this character's tier?

Although this is just small part of this world, but it includes infinite timelines, and each timeline is a infinite dimensional structure. Transcend its power, because it's the only way of exiting this place

And this character?

This place is made of infinite layers of reality. You need to surpass this place at terms of power. After surpassing it, a portal opens up to another space-time of this world which means you were successful at it

Would the wielder of this sword gain Void Manipulation + Existence Erasure?

The sword can create true void, and the void exists in its dimensions that it created. Anyone who enters the dimensions, would be removed from the existence and turns into nothingness

Also what's the name of ability to create dimensions? Higher dimensional manip? Space-Time Manipulation? or both? The size of dimensions that this sword created are stated to be infinite/endless btw

And a character entered these dimensions and nothing happened to him. So would he gain resistance to void manip + EE?

Is this immeasurable speed?

With his fast movement, he bypasses the flow of linear time, which made him to transcend any sights and speeds

And this?

Demons, even the lesser ones, transcend the concepts of time and distance with their pure speed. because they want to hunt humans and souls in the fastest way

Is this concept manip type 1?

This sword can change and remove the concepts that shape, create and govern all of reality, and are beyond reality. That's why the first wielder of this sword removed the concepts of speed from veil dimension. That removing made demons to not be able to travel any distances there, because speed hadn't any existences there anymore. After that, he sealed the veil dimension. which not only prevented from demons' travelling just like this sword's concept removing, but also prevented space-time tricks like Teleportation and Portal opening

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

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[BreezeHM]

What's this character's tier?

High 1-B+ assuming the Dimensions are superior to one another, if not it's just 2-A.

And this character?

Depends what Reality is. If it's the entire Space-Time Continuum then 2-A.

Would the wielder of this sword gain Void Manipulation + Existence Erasure?

Yes

Also what's the name of ability to create dimensions? Higher dimensional manip? Space-Time Manipulation? or both? The size of dimensions that this sword created are stated to be infinite/endless btw

Both

And a character entered these dimensions and nothing happened to him. So would he gain resistance to void manip + EE?

Yes

Is this immeasurable speed?

Very contradictory, if you don't have immeasurable perception speed, you shouldn't even see their movement.

And this?

I believe this checks out for Infinite Speed, since time and distance mean nothing to them and its done by pure speed.

Is this concept manip type 1?

Type 2. Needs evidence that it's independent from the things that participate in the concept.

 

[Vietthai96]

What's this character's tier?

High 1-B

And this character?

Seem to imply High 1-B but not really solid

Would the wielder of this sword gain Void Manipulation + Existence Erasure?

Yes

Also what's the name of ability to create dimensions? Higher dimensional manip? Space-Time Manipulation? or both? The size of dimensions that this sword created are stated to be infinite/endless btw

Depend on the context, at worst just Creation, the size of the dimension is about tier and rating, not hax or ability

And a character entered these dimensions and nothing happened to him. So would he gain resistance to void manip + EE?

Yes

Is this immeasurable speed?

Generally speaking yes, but the later part can be a contradiction depending on context

And this?

At least Infinite Speed, could be Immeasurable speed depending on context

Is this concept manip type 1?

Type 2, not enough for type 1

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

High 1-B+ assuming the Dimensions are superior to one another, if not it's just 2-A.

How it's 2-A? The High 1-B define says this:

Characters or objects who can significantly affect, create and/or destroy infinite-dimensional space.

Depends what Reality is. If it's the entire Space-Time Continuum then 2-A.

I asked this because im not very fimilar with this. I saw some profiles that were High 1-B due to effecting infinite layers of reality. I saw that this verse has this statement, so how this feat actually works?

Very contradictory, if you don't have immeasurable perception speed, you shouldn't even see their movement.

His speed can't be saw by eyes, as his speed is stated to be faster than eye. His speed makes illusion and afterimage, it never stated that people can see him

I believe this checks out for Infinite Speed, since time and distance mean nothing to them and its done by pure speed.

I don't think so. At least by their defines.
Infinite speed definition:

Able to travel any finite distance in zero time, or move an infinite distance within a finite amount of time.

Immeasurable speed definition:

Movement unbound from the flow of linear time, which cannot be measured. Given that S = D/T, if T is undefined, the speed formula cannot be applied

Demons transcended the concepts of both time and distance, which is the definition of immeasurable speed, while infinite speed has finite distance and bounded by it

Type 2. Needs evidence that it's independent from the things that participate in the concept.

Forgot to write it completely. You can read it again.

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

Seem to imply High 1-B but not really solid

Can you say what more contexts is needed?

Depend on the context, at worst just Creation, the size of the dimension is about tier and rating, not hax or ability

Higher dimensional manipulation is ability to manipulate 4D dimensions or above. Can't this be it?

Generally speaking yes, but the later part can be a contradiction depending on context

I should translate it. Maybe the last part is just a mistranslation

At least Infinite Speed, could be Immeasurable speed depending on context

Why infinite? It isn't bounded by distance and time. So can't be calculated by speed formula

Type 2, not enough for type 1

Now i added more of it. What about now?

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

High 1-B

Seem to imply High 1-B but not really solid

Yes


Depend on the context, at worst just Creation, the size of the dimension is about tier and rating, not hax or ability


Yes


Generally speaking yes, but the later part can be a contradiction depending on context



At least Infinite Speed, could be Immeasurable speed depending on context


Type 2, not enough for type 1

High 1-B

Seem to imply High 1-B but not really solid

Yes


Depend on the context, at worst just Creation, the size of the dimension is about tier and rating, not hax or ability


Yes


Generally speaking yes, but the later part can be a contradiction depending on context



At least Infinite Speed, could be Immeasurable speed depending on context


Type 2, not enough for type 1

Now i checked the first immeasurable speed, it was the mistranslation for afterimage and illusion. I fix it. You can see it now

 

[Vietthai96]

Now i checked the first immeasurable speed, it was the mistranslation for afterimage and illusion. I fix it. You can see it now

transcends any sights and speed

wth is that?

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

wth is that?

It was the English definition of the move. The Japanese says his fast speed bypasses flow of linear time which made him to transcend any sights and speeds

 

[Vietthai96]

It was the English definition of the move. The Japanese says his fast speed bypasses flow of linear time which made him to transcend any sights and speeds

show me scan then

 

[BreezeHM]

How it's 2-A? The High 1-B define says this:

just name dropping the word "dimension" doesn't mean anything on its own. It needs context on them being higher dimensions.

I asked this because im not very fimilar with this. I saw some profiles that were High 1-B due to effecting infinite layers of reality. I saw that this verse has this statement, so how this feat actually works?

Depends how the verse treats reality. If reality is just the standard Universe, then it's just 2-A. However, if there's like a realm that consists of higher realities than High 1-B is possible. It really depends on verse context.

His speed can't be saw by eyes, as his speed is stated to be faster than eye. His speed makes illusion and afterimage, it never stated that people can see him

Immeasurable is faster than instantaneous itself, there's no illusion or afterimage that can be made, unless someone watching has Immeasurable Perception

I don't think so. At least by their defines.
Infinite speed definition:

Immeasurable speed definition:

Demons transcended the concepts of both time and distance, which is the definition of immeasurable speed, while infinite speed has finite distance and bounded by it

With Infinite speed you can still cross an infinite distance in finite time as well. Transcending the concept of time and distance could just mean being able to travel everywhere in 0 time.

Forgot to write it completely. You can read it again.

If its beyond reality then you could reach Type 1, if nothing contradicts it

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

just name dropping the word "dimension" doesn't mean anything on its own. It needs context on them being higher dimensions.

Are these good?

The Timelines show all of alternate timelines and possibilities that would have happened while you are in demon world

Demon World is filled with human souls, and souls originates from Higher Dimensions

Depends how the verse treats reality. If reality is just the standard Universe, then it's just 2-A. However, if there's like a realm that consists of higher realities than High 1-B is possible. It really depends on verse context.

The realm is a beyond dimensional realm (stated to be beyond the concepts of dimensions). It also countains higher dimensions and planes of existences, and souls originates from a higher Dimension and are filled within it

Immeasurable is faster than instantaneous itself, there's no illusion or afterimage that can be made, unless someone watching has Immeasurable Perception

It was a mistranslation. I corrected it. You can check it now.

With Infinite speed you can still cross an infinite distance in finite time as well. Transcending the concept of time and distance could just mean being able to travel everywhere in 0 time.

Their speed is beyond time and distance. While infintie speed is still bounded by distance and time, no matter if its infinite, its still bounded. And where exactly stated that Transcending them means you are able to travel anywhere in zero time? Their speed is beyond time. So it's not bounded by concepts like seconds, minutes or etc. zero time is still a concept that bounded by time. So their speed is unbounded by time, which is the definition of immeasurable speed

If its beyond reality then you could reach Type 1, if nothing contradicts it

Yeah the concepts that the sword can change or remove are beyond reality, which shape, create and govern all of reality

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

show me scan then

No worries lol. Its translated by vsb translators

 

[BreezeHM]

Are these good?

should be

The realm is a beyond dimensional realm (stated to be beyond the concepts of dimensions). It also countains higher dimensions and planes of existences, and souls originates from a higher Dimension and are filled within it

Should be fine then as well

It was a mistranslation. I corrected it. You can check it now.

Probably Immeasurable, although I do question that translation.

Their speed is beyond time and distance. While infintie speed is still bounded by distance and time, no matter if its infinite, its still bounded. And where exactly stated that Transcending them means you are able to travel anywhere in zero time? Their speed is beyond time. So it's not bounded by concepts like seconds, minutes or etc. zero time is still a concept that bounded by time. So their speed is unbounded by time, which is the definition of immeasurable speed

You can be beyond time and distance with Infinite, that's basically what teleportation is. It really depends on the context.

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

Probably Immeasurable, although I do question that translation.

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When i want to add the crt, i would tag the translator and gives the link of our conversation. But currently im talking about its definition. Is it good for immeasurable?

You can be beyond time and distance with Infinite, that's basically what teleportation is. It really depends on the context.

It's stated with their pure speed. What was the Teleportation's relationship?

 

[BreezeHM]

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When i want to add the crt, i would tag the translator and gives the link of our conversation. But currently im talking about its definition. Is it good for immeasurable?

Yeah that one should be good for immeasurable. I just mean the translation just looks weird, as long as it's a Wiki Translator on the Staff Team then its fine.

It's stated with their pure speed. What was the Teleportation's relationship?

I was just stating the relationship that being beyond time and distance could also just imply teleportation. Performing movement akin to teleportation with speed would make you Infinite. This feat needs more context for it to be immeasurable

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

Yeah that one should be good for immeasurable. I just mean the translation just looks weird, as long as it's a Wiki Translator on the Staff Team then its fine.

Yeah it's weird in my opinion too

I was just stating the relationship that being beyond time and distance could also just imply teleportation. Performing movement akin to teleportation with speed would make you Infinite. This feat needs more context for it to be immeasurable

It's stated with their pure speed. Transcending the concepts of time and distance with their pure speed means they are beyond those with their speed (unbound from time). Is pure speed something similar to Teleportation? I even saw a character that gained immeasurable speed by something similar to this

 

[Vietthai96]

Transcends the concept of speed

Still have speed

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[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

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Sorry but i don't remember i said that. Transcending any speeds doesn't mean he Transcended the "concept" of speed. He is just above other speeds. It isn't even transcening speed. It's transcening "any" speeds, which means the sentence that i said

 

[Deleted member 40129]

Sorry but i don't remember i said that. Transcending any speeds doesn't mean he Transcended the "concept" of speed. He is just above other speeds. It isn't even transcening speed. It's transcening "any" speeds, which means the sentence that i said

Which series are these statements from?