Rick and Morty - Going for 7-D Layer

[ShionAH]

Yes I am gonna try this...

• Multiverse in Rick and Morty is made out of Infinite Timelines, all of these Timelines are inside of a larger spatial axis that contains ALL of them inside of it whilst connecting and being in between.

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Do you know what the Central Finite Curve is? They built a wall around infinity, separated all the infinite universes from all the infinite universes where he's the smartest man in the universe.

Evil Morty while referring to the wider Multiverse directly claims that it is in fact Infinity that contains all the Infinite Universes, the Rick's built a wall around a part of this Infinity through a Infinite sized Curve to separate this section from the rest of the Infinity.

I am tired of saying Infinite.

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Small additions!!

• Rick's weaponry is capable of hitting other flying Space Cruisers.
• Vehicular Mastery. Come on...
• Adding feats to already accepted powers
  • Hacking. Was able to reverse-engineer a TV into sending a transmission to outer space from an alien planet to Earth. Hacked using a dark web account to hack into a gigantic corporation and made someone the most successful business woman ever, literally by purchasing her whole company with a hacked corporation, which he did within seconds. Rick hacked a TV made by the dinosaurs to show a video clip of him dancing. Rewired the Robobros into self-destructing with just a screwdriver. Rick is able to hack keypads that use a ten trillion-bit encryption, which Rick says would take him a minute. Rick states he could have just hacked an entire organization
  • Resistance to Mind Manipulation. Rick along with Morty were completely and entirely immune to the Easter Bunny's mind control telling them to kiss each other, which, while on a lower effect, had previously gotten an entire bar to have sex and kiss with one another, and even got the bouncer to start trying to have intercourse with a motorcycle. Rick also was immune to this effect, even when the Easter Bunny ejected a large amount of this power, and was unaffected when "In The Butt-Guy" became the Easter Bunny and generated a gigantic mind control explosion
  • Stamina. Rick was capable of taking the fading pills he made, without reacting in the slightest, despite the fact that the effects of the fading pill feel like one's skin is boiling
• Poison Manipulation and Resistance to Possession (When a Facehugger tried to subdue Rick by suffocating him, the Facehugger soon died before it could happen, which Rick finding out it was due to the Facehugger dying from toxicity due to all the drugs and alcohol in his system)
• Holy Manipulation (Rick has a gun that's ammo uses copies of the Bible, which he uses the holiness from to kill crowds of vampires. Jerry recalls Rick using a holy water grenade to kill a crowd of vampires by splashing them with water)
• Remove: "He has a genuine fear of squirrels" This is just wrong, squirrels in Rick and Morty are just insanely threatening

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This would make the wider Multiverse including this space as one layers into Infinite 7D

3 (@Qawsedf234, @TWILIGHT-OP (Neutral on Tier 1), @FinePoint)

 

[RoninSlayer200]

I lowk never thought you were talking about Rick and Morty.

But yeah, I think this makes sense (not that my opinion matters). Does anyone scale to it, though? I don't remember Evil Morty or Rick doing something crazy enough to affect the entire greater multiverse.

 

[ShionAH]

Does anyone scale to it, though? I don't remember Evil Morty or Rick doing something crazy enough to affect the entire greater multiverse.

They do because Rick was shaking and heavily disrupting the entire Multiverse through his shockwaves while looking for Prime

 

[Aolphl]

Agree with additions,

Yes I am gonna try this...

• Multiverse in Rick and Morty is made out of Infinite Timelines, all of these Timelines are inside of a larger spatial axis that contains ALL of them inside of it whilst connecting and being in between.

Is that really enough? FAQ says this:

Q: Is a structure bigger than a 2-A structure Low 1-C by default?​

No, the default assumption is that this is not the case. "Bigger" could mean having more 2-A structures and, as explained in greater detail previously, having more 2-A structures, or even infinitely many 2-A structures, unless uncountably infinitely many, won't be above a single 2-A structure in size. This is due to these structures actually having the same size as a baseline 2-A structure. It is, however, possible to at least achieve greater than baseline 2-A power by upscaling from other characters who've performed 2-A feats or of the feats themselves, rather than by affecting 2-A structures containing other 2-A structures. However, if "bigger" is indicated to mean a size difference that makes the structure dimensionally superior to a 2-A structure, the structure qualifies for Low 1-C unless the fiction specifies otherwise.

To elaborate, a structure larger than 2-A meets the requirements for dimensional superiority over them if it either explicitly mentions an uncountably infinite number of universes or has portrayals/statements of being larger than 2-A structures to the point that even infinite multipliers on top of the size of that structure are of no relevance to it. Multiversal structures past Low 2-C frequently have a distance of unknown length along a 5th dimensional axis separating them. That isn't automatically Low 1-C, as for Low 1-C the distance must be known to be of non-insignificant size.

In that regard it is important to consider that, by its nature, it is not possible to accurately depict 5 dimensional space. As such depictions of the multiverse are usually not to be understood as an accurate representation of the distance between the universes, but rather just qualitative analogies of the multiverse's structure.

As usual, evaluation of any additional evidence needs to be done case-by-case.

Neutral for now

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

I definitely agree with that.

 

[Saqphire]

Agreed

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

This will be interesting, following.

 

[ShionAH]

Is that really enough?

I think the fact that Evil Morty referring to it as Infinite let’s this work. I’ve heard some other verses got it in a similar way.

 

[Aolphl]

I think the fact that Evil Morty referring to it as Infinite let’s this work. I’ve heard some other verses got it in a similar way.

Well, I can see it but this couldn't be enough, I will wait for more input

 

[Hellbeast]

They do because Rick was shaking and heavily disrupting the entire Multiverse through his shockwaves while looking for Prime

On this subject, that would be Environmental Destruction right? Since its an unintended side effect of his device

 

[AyOgUyS]

Neutral on 8-D, agree with other stuff

 

[ShionAH]

On this subject, that would be Environmental Destruction right? Since its an unintended side effect of his device

I am not sure, the shockwaves WAS meant to disrupt but he just didn’t think they would reach outside the Curve to the Multiverse itself. Additionally we do have some WoG implications of Rick being able to destroy the Multiverse and the Curve itself having arguments on that level… yeah I don’t think Rick would not be able to surpass his search shockwaves when he wants big kabooms.

Bump

 

[Napoleondevious]

agree, neutral on 8D for now

 

[StrymULTRA]

Evil Morty while referring to the wider Multiverse directly claims that it is in fact Infinity that contains all the Infinite Universes, the Rick's built a wall around a part of this Infinity through a Infinite sized Curve to separate this section from the rest of the Infinity.

From where does this quote even come from

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Agree: 4 (@RoninSlayer200, @ShionAH, @LuffyRuffy46307, @Saqphire)

Grass is still green

 

[Vesxpura]

Is that really enough?

I wouldnt say so since so far his arguments only support insignificant 8D, and the universes within the central finite curve are lesser infinities, like the difference between countably infinite and a set of all even numbers. while both are infinite, one is smaller than the other

 

[ShionAH]

From where does this quote even come from

 

[StrymULTRA]

I wouldnt say so since so far his arguments only support insignificant 8D, and the universes within the central finite curve are lesser infinities, like the difference between countably infinite and a set of all even numbers. while both are infinite, one is smaller than the other

Honestly... yeah.

Like, besides the FAQ that was linked above, Evil Morty's quote doesn't mention that this space in itself is infinite, just that is around the infinite universes ("infinity" in this context seems to be just a synonym of multiverse given its infinite nature), so I'll disagree with OP for now.

 

[Qawsedf234]

This would make the wider Multiverse including this space as 8D

It would not. Our FAQ page covers this;

Q: Is a structure bigger than a 2-A structure Low 1-C by default?​

A: No, the default assumption is that this is not the case. "Bigger" could mean having more 2-A structures and, as explained in greater detail previously, having more 2-A structures, or even infinitely many 2-A structures, unless uncountably infinitely many, won't be above a single 2-A structure in size. This is due to these structures actually having the same size as a baseline 2-A structure. It is, however, possible to at least achieve greater than baseline 2-A power by upscaling from other characters who've performed 2-A feats or of the feats themselves, rather than by affecting 2-A structures containing other 2-A structures. However, if "bigger" is indicated to mean a size difference that makes the structure dimensionally superior to a 2-A structure, the structure qualifies for Low 1-C unless the fiction specifies otherwise.

To elaborate, a structure larger than 2-A meets the requirements for dimensional superiority over them if it either explicitly mentions an uncountably infinite number of universes or has portrayals/statements of being larger than 2-A structures to the point that even infinite multipliers on top of the size of that structure are of no relevance to it. Multiversal structures past Low 2-C frequently have a distance of unknown length along a 5th dimensional axis separating them. That isn't automatically Low 1-C, as for Low 1-C the distance must be known to be of non-insignificant size.

In that regard it is important to consider that, by its nature, it is not possible to accurately depict 5 dimensional space. As such depictions of the multiverse are usually not to be understood as an accurate representation of the distance between the universes, but rather just qualitative analogies of the multiverse's structure.

As usual, evaluation of any additional evidence needs to be done case-by-case.

While the FAQ is about 2-A, all higher-dimensional ratings use the same philosophy behind them. Rick cutting off an infinite number of timelines does not mean that there's an uncountable infinite number of timelines in total or that the multiverse is higher dimensional.

So this does not qualify as 8-D.

 

[Hellbeast]

I am not sure, the shockwaves WAS meant to disrupt but he just didn’t think they would reach outside the Curve to the Multiverse itself. Additionally we do have some WoG implications of Rick being able to destroy the Multiverse and the Curve itself having arguments on that level… yeah I don’t think Rick would not be able to surpass his search shockwaves when he wants big kabooms

Hmm I see, do we know if the multiverse destruction applies to the whole thing or the multiverse as defined by the Curve

Because I could see an “up to 1-C via prep” being good to cover bases

 

[ShionAH]

So this does not qualify as 8-D.

What about the in between space and the ability additions?

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

I won't be commenting on 8D stuff so neutral for now.

Small additions!!

This all looks good btw.

 

[Qawsedf234]

What about the in between space and the ability additions?

You didn't mention the in-between space in this CRT and the abilities look fine at a quick glance.

 

[ShionAH]

You didn't mention the in-between space in this CRT

I did... how did you miss that

Multiverse in Rick and Morty is made out of Infinite Timelines, all of these Timelines are inside of a larger spatial axis that contains ALL of them inside of it whilst connecting and being in between.

You can see the universes are inside of a larger spatial place in several instances. With all the bubbles you see being timelines

Evil Morty while referring to this outside space claimed it was "Infinite" in his statement. So this infinite spatial plane that contains all the timeline is my main point of argument.

 

[Qawsedf234]

did... how did you miss that

Because you.... didn't call it the In-between Space?

Evil Morty while referring to this outside space claimed it was "Infinite" in his statement. So this infinite spatial plane that contains all the timeline is my main point of argument.

That's what I was talking about with the 2-A stuff. Being more infinite than 2-A doesn't make you Low 1-C. It's the same reason why being more infinite than a 7D multiverse doesn't make you 8D. You have to show an uncountable infinite difference, which isn't displayed here.

 

[ShionAH]

Because you.... didn't call it the In-between Space?

I said it was a space thats in between them…

That's what I was talking about with the 2-A stuff. Being more infinite than 2-A doesn't make you Low 1-C. It's the same reason why being more infinite than a 7D multiverse doesn't make you 8D. You have to show an uncountable infinite difference, which isn't displayed here.

I am still confused since the replies I got in my QnA did make me think that a space thats covering and in between all timelines while also being infinite would mean it contains all the snapshots of the timelines through it’s superiority making it higher dimensional.

What do I need to prove specifically for this? I was under the impression that this was enough.

 

[StrymULTRA]

I am still confused since the replies I got in my QnA did make me think that a space thats covering and in between all timelines while also being infinite would mean it contains all the snapshots of the timelines through it’s superiority making it higher dimensional.

What do I need to prove specifically for this? I was under the impression that this was enough.

Like, besides the FAQ that was linked above, Evil Morty's quote doesn't mention that this space in itself is infinite, just that is around the infinite universes ("infinity" in this context seems to be just a synonym of multiverse given its infinite nature), so I'll disagree with OP for now.

 

[ShionAH]

I see your point, this wouldn't upgrade the cosmology anywhere I assume.

 

[StrymULTRA]

I see your point, this wouldn't upgrade the cosmology anywhere I assume.

Yeah. Technically, every Higher-D space is "infinitely" larger than lower dimensional things, but this site's weird with things and only accepts Universal and above lenghts for the extra axis in order for it to even matter tier-wise.

 

[ShionAH]

Yeah.

Damn, so I can't say "uh Rick and Morty has a in between spatial axis so that beats your 7D rating by a tiny margin!!"

 

[Qawsedf234]

Damn, so I can't say "uh Rick and Morty has a in between spatial axis so that beats your 7D rating by a tiny margin!!"

It can be higher into 7D without being 8D basically:

Q: How do multipliers affect Tier 2 and Tier 1 ratings?
A: As stated in the Tiering System note section, a multiplier, even an infinite one, cannot bridge the gap between a universal or dimensional difference. Having said that, a multiplier or a scaling chain could place a character above the baseline version of that respective tier. So, for example, a Low 2-C character could not become 2-C with a multiplier, but they could be above the baseline for that respective tier. When making matches or constructing profiles, it is important to take this into account to make sure how strong a character may be for their respective tier.

Q: Why is Tier 2 split for individual structures and not Tier 1?
A: For most of fiction, Tier 2 is the common endpoint or largest cosmological structure. Due to the volume of profiles that have this be the endpoint, splitting the 4D Cosmological structures was considered a better way to index profiles. With that said, almost all higher tiers follow the exact same standards as the Tier 2 ratings. To illustrate: if a character destroys three universes, they'd be rated at 2-C, while a character that has destroyed an infinite amount would be rated as 2-A. For Low 1-C all instances are put together, but there is still a power gap between them; so a character who's destroyed an infinite amount of fifth-dimensional universes would be superior to a character who's destroyed a singular fifth-dimensional space for the same reason why a 2-A character is superior to a Low 2-C character.

 

[ShionAH]

It can be higher into 7D without being 8D basically:

So basically this just puts Rick higher than baseline of Infinite 7D scale? Alright I see.

I'll probably apply this now, you can close it and unlock Rick's page? Thanks.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

48 hrs grace period has not been reached yet.

 

[ShionAH]

Oh you are right, its in two hours.

 

[Hellbeast]

So basically this just puts Rick higher than baseline of Infinite 7D scale? Alright I see.

I'll probably apply this now, you can close it and unlock Rick's page? Thanks.

Yeah two layers into infinite 7-D sounds cold I guess

 

[ShionAH]

48 hrs grace period has not been reached yet.

How about now

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

How about now

Well, now you’ll need three mods total, I don’t count as I am not an expert on tier 1, so go ahead and ask two more, since we’re now talking about layering.

 

[ShionAH]

Well, now you’ll need three mods total, I don’t count as I am not an expert on tier 1, so go ahead and ask two more, since we’re now talking about layering.

do u mind pinging some folks?

 

[Vesxpura]

48 hrs grace period has not been reached yet.

shouldnt it be 24 since this doesnt seem like that major of a revision and does kind of seem self evident

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Agree with the OP