It was spread out over a whole city and even while diluted in that way it put every human in the city to sleep. Sure if it was focused on Percy it might have put him to sleep, but that's enough energy to sleep an entire city concentrated on one person. It's like saying resisting mind manipulation from someone with Martian Manhunter levels of TP isn't impressive because of something like "the total energy was spread out when he mind controlled the continent" as if the fact that he needs to concentrate a significant portion of that same energy on you to make it affect you in the first place isn't impressive.
If said humans had resistance to mind manip maybe the feat itself would be impressive but they are just standard humans, so them falling asleep to it isn’t an indication of it being a super strong spell, and the demigods not being affected by it because it wasn’t fully focused on them isn’t really an impressive resistance feat at all, it is one but it's incredibly baseline.
Circe has pretty powerful magic and had the benefit of not having to spread out the magic
Regardless, it’s an example of demigod magic resistance not actually doing much.
Charmspeak is some of the strongest magic in the entire verse lol
Which is relative to the context of it being used, charmspeak has tons of antifeats, and characters that are suppose to have magic resistance like Percy falling prey to Piper or Circe using it in a casual sense isn’t a good resistance feat at all. (though I will admit that obviously those two are upper tier users)
The whole point wasn't even to say any of these magic abilities are weak, just that the idea that demigods would just be like extremely resistant to any magic used against them isn't true, especially when they are still able to be tricked by the mist, which is magic and the first layer of the duat.
The only spell that was confused was the first one he did, the fist spell managed to hit Water Dipped Percy with enough force to knock him out of his shoes
Correcting this rq since I just reread the fight, first he punched Percy out of his shoes and into the air.
A giant fist the size of a dishwasher shimmered into existence and slammed Camper Boy into the next county. I mean I literally punched him out of his shoes. He rocketed from the river with a loud suck-plop! And the last thing I saw was his bare feet achieving escape velocity as he flew backwards and disappeared from sight
Then tried to use a random spell on him which fizzled out.
I used my wand this time, catching his blade in the crook of ivory and channeling a burst of magic straight up his arm. The air between us flashed and crackled. Camper Boy stumbled back. Blue sparks of sorcery popped around him, as if my spell didn't know quite what to do with him. Who was this guy?
After that spell failed, he kept fighting Percy, and managed to bind him with a rope spell.
Camper Boy was sitting nearby in waist-deep water, looking dejected. My magic rope had wrapped round his sword arm, then lashed his hand to the side of his head. Unable to let go of his sword, he looked like he had a single reindeer antler sprouting next to his ear. He tugged at the rope with his free hand, but of course he couldn't make any progress.
Mind you the entire battle took place in water, and as stated by Wings of Despair, water has been shown to increase Percy's resistance to magic and out right broke him out of Kronos' time magic.
The water revitalized me, breaking the time spell, and I lunged forward
This means that if Carter decided to just bind Nico with rope the same way he binded someone with higher magic resistance, Nico would quite literally have no way of resist it, and it also means that we can't assume a normal baseline spell will fizzle out when used against Nico seeing as the only time that happened to a demigod was to Percy (Afaik) and that only happened while he was in a buffed state that wouldn't apply to Nico at all.
He wouldn't do that in character. He's bad at those types of spells. The only time I can remember where he even used it in combat was when he was acting as the Eye of a god. Which grants both potency and skill that he wouldn't normally possess.
I thought we were assuming peak conditions and going in to fully end the match, if not I still don’t see nico beating him, as he was able to fight with water empowered percy for a bit even if he was on the losing end of the fight.
