Shaymin feats

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'm currently in the process of creating Shaymin's profile, and I got to thinking. Instead of rating it at 8-A for stomping an army of Magnemite chain members, it does create Seabreak Path, which is the longest route in any game, and traverses it in between 2 and 4 seconds. If anyone can calc this, I'd have a lot of gratitude. Get it? Because Shaymin is the Gratutude Pokemon? ...I'll stop now...


Also, I'm going to put some Shaymin images here so I don't have to add it to the page later.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Do we still scale Legendaries to regional Pokemon? Because that could make Shaymin Small Town+ scaling off of Probopass and maybe Supersonic scaling off of Pidgey, which can appear in Platinum version.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

...small town Probopass? Also, I think we should only scale to regional pokemon as a last resort.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

...small town Probopass? Also, I think we should only scale to regional pokemon as a last resort.

Probopass learns Earth Power

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Ah. That explains it.

So, of the moves that I don't mind us scaling on, it's Earth Power, Twister, and Hurricane.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Well for now I'd say scaling Shaymin to earth power will be fine unless we have other feats.

 

[Blahblah9755]

Shaymin crossing the Seabreak path should be mhs, since the path is around 1.5 times the size of the second longest route, and the timeframe is 2-4 times the timeframe Sinnoh's roaming Pokémon took to cross the second longest route, so it's at least over 1/3 of their speed.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

here's the video. No need to skip. Put it to the exact part. And it was less than 2 seconds. We still need a calc for creating that landmass.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

So...I did a rough calc on crossing Seabreak Path and got...109 m/s.

Not even Subsonic+.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

But...how? The other legendaries crossing ''shorter'' routes got MHS.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

They might be using the Map for scale. Since I'm unfamilar with Gen 4 I couldn't really use that.

http://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/6/6a/Sinnoh_Region.png/300px-Sinnoh_Region.png

I assume the long blue tail on the right is Seaside? If so, then I can attempt to re-calc it using higher numbers.

 

[Blahblah9755]

What did you use to find the size? If you used the distance the game character crossed, keep in mind all Pokémon game worlds are scaled down from their actual size (based on real world locations, Sinnoh is Hokkaido). If it wasn't, even just traversing through a town or city would take longer than crossing any route in the game.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Yep. That long blue tail is that place. Also, I recall the original calcers used what Sinnoh's IRL equivalent is.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

I believe TacoCat calculated the sizes of Sinnoh and other Regions. I can use that probably.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Okay. Scaling off of Hokkaido I got 2448573 m/s or Mach 7138. That's more like it.

I'll upload to a blog in a bit.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Nice. Nearly subrel Shaymin. Now all we need is the calc of creating Seabreak Path in the first place.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Also, almost done with Shaymin's profile. Only need AP.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bump

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I thought we were sacling it to Probopass?

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Do we know what method Shaymin used to create Seaside Bridge? Because if we don't, we can't really gauge a tier from that.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

The likely answer is that it raised it. It has no creation feats to support reality warping.