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from what you said if he dodges the first hit he dodges everything right?In that case he can probably dodge the first half of the combo but he might still get hit by the latter strikes
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from what you said if he dodges the first hit he dodges everything right?In that case he can probably dodge the first half of the combo but he might still get hit by the latter strikes
There'd be a bit more of a gap than that if you take the strongest ninjas and Hakuhei into account. But I think we're using pre-Complete Shichika so it's a moot pointThe more accurate scaling would be : 388 MT < Nanami Yasuri < Shichika (incomplete) << completed Shichika
this is post cake arc luffy so his ap is significantly weaker than shichika's Luffy without gear fourth is around 200-300 megatons iirc but im not sure. Im guessing if Shichika's Full combo hits, Luffy will either be dead or severely injured. With CoO Luffy should be able to dodge at least the first half if not most of it thoughNot necessarily, Shichika can keep the combo going and try to catch him on the other hits. He can potentially take out seven opponents with the same combo by switching targets on each hit. The only move in the combo that left an opening to dodge was Ryoryou Kakkou, which is why in Hachiretsu: Kai he's made it the opening move, so that once it's begun the combo is inescapable.
I doubt that. Hoo Maniwa just scales to incomplete Shichika and Hakuhei and Emonzaemon scale above Hoo but below completed Shichika. The Hakuhei fight was mostly off-screened and he didn't go full power anywayThere'd be a bit more of a gap than that if you take the strongest ninjas and Hakuhei into account. But I think we're using pre-Complete Shichika so it's a moot point
If Luffy gets hit even with a part of the combo, it's going to be bad for him because Shichika scales quite a decent amount higher than himthis is post cake arc luffy so his ap is significantly weaker than shichika's Luffy without gear fourth is around 200-300 megatons iirc but im not sure. Im guessing if Shichika's Full combo hits, Luffy will either be dead or severely injured. With CoO Luffy should be able to dodge at least the first half if not most of it though
yeah and this combo negates durability right? I wonder if CoA can reduce damage. Another problem is that if Luffy doesn't one shot Shichika with Red Hawk His chances of winning are slim since he doesn't have Gear fourth he'll have to make do with Gear 3If Luffy gets hit even with a part of the combo, it's going to be bad for him because Shichika scales quite a decent amount higher than him
True I think Gear second counts as a speed amp right? It wouldn't Blitz but it would still be a good advantageOne possible wincon for Luffy would be if he stays away and uses his range advantage to make it a battle of attrition. If he tries to get up close and personal with Shichika he will get slaughtered
Well if in character Its unlikely that Luffy would do that. It would be more likely if Luffy kept throwing attacks at Shichika since stamina isnt much of a Problem anymoreOne possible wincon for Luffy would be if he stays away and uses his range advantage to make it a battle of attrition. If he tries to get up close and personal with Shichika he will get slaughtered
Emonzaemon and Hoo scale equally to each other, and Hakuhei is decently far above them. Semi-Completed Shichika stomps an opponent who is explicitly comparable or superior to Hakuhei, and is stated to surpass all previous deviant blade wielders.I doubt that. Hoo Maniwa just scales to incomplete Shichika and Hakuhei and Emonzaemon scale above Hoo but below completed Shichika. The Hakuhei fight was mostly off-screened and he didn't go full power anyway
But it's unknown how they exactly scale to Nanami (whose feat is the one used for scaling everyone). As such, Emonzaemon and Hoo just scale to incomplete Shichika somewhat, Hakuhei is more of a mystery. My point is that they can't really be used to add steps to Shichika's scaling so it just goes : 388 MT < nanami < incomplete shichika <<< completed Shichika. Anyway it is clear that he scales quite a bit above 388 MTEmonzaemon and Hoo scale equally to each other, and Hakuhei is decently far above them. Semi-Completed Shichika stomps an opponent who is explicitly comparable or superior to Hakuhei, and is stated to surpass all previous deviant blade wielders.
This part is not exactly based on anything directly IMO. Shichika actually defeats almost everyone with casual ease - except Emonzaemon, Nanami and Hakuei. Despite all the conditions placed on himhe scales to Biyorigou and Zanki, who would scale below Hoo and Emonzaemon
I don't know who that isHakuhei, who is stated to have been surpassed by Kojiro
Nanami Yasuri had an off-screen 7A feat apparently. I was just as surprisedwoah when did Shichika become 7-A
you realize luffy has all those and to a greater extent right? Not to mention luffy can blitz since gear second is counted as a speed amp. He doesn’t outskill by an absurd margin at most its just around 5 years of experience since Luffy has also engaged in combat since he was a kidWhat are the reasons for Luffy beating Shichika?
Shichika outskills by an absurd margin, has significantly better precog (being both prediction and future sight), and can ignore all of the benefits of Luffy's rubber body.
So? for all I know that fight was probably a blitz and not to mention gear second still speed stompsRanged attacks that involve his body. Which is still connected to his torso. And that doesn't help him at all, because Shichika is far better than Nanami who can precog an entire fight from someone's stance alone.
I dont understand how outranges became a disadvantageLuffy outranges in a way that makes it insultingly easy for Shichika to beat him. Shichika's precog is also future sight, functioning somewhat like a weapon telling him what it's about to do, which works on people who use martial arts because they have transformed their bodies into a living weapon.