Shigaraki Tomura tests his luck as a Jujutsu Sorcerer

[Mand21]

Shigaraki was just going down a stroll through a forest to take a breath of fresh air and watch nature, when this weird villain-looking maybe quirk user thingie with a volcano on its head says he's not a real human and begins attacking him.

Tomura Shigaraki V.S. Jogo.

Arguments against stomp:
1. Reminder that Shigaraki has extremely powerful regen and Low 7-B+ durability very close to being 7-B. Jogo is merely ~2.3x above baseline 7-B with his strongest desperation meteor attack, so he shouldn't have more than an AP twice Shigaraki's durability, if as much as that, with most of his attacks, especially when outside his domain.
2. Shigaraki's speed comes from outpacing a character (Gran Torino) who had previously shown to blitz a character (Deku) who was faster than a character (Nighteye) who was capable of beating, perhaps being faster than clones who scaled to a quirk that has been calculated to being Mach 10.73, while Jogo scales directly to being faster than Maki's Mach 27 feat. Assuming a speedblitz is something like having around 2x someone else's speed, Shigaraki is probably very close to the top of his category (which would be Mach 25). On the other hand, Jogo didn't speedblitz Maki or anything, he's only assumed to be faster than her and may not be by a wide margin, so he could be just Mach 30 or something. This means Jogo isn't nearly fast enough for a speedblitz.
3. Shigaraki's Decay bypasses conventional durability. One hit from that thing on the head, and Jogo's likely a goner.
4. I'll equalize speed if necessary, but for now it isn't equalized.

 

[Gitagon]

Is Quirk power = Curse power? That's kinda necessary considering only curse energy can hurt curses. Shigaraki also needs the ability to see curses so we don't land into the same Jojo vs threads traps: "only stand users can see stands", " only stands can hurt stands" etc that make vs battles against other verses pointless.

 

[TheRustyOne]

Uh we don't use that calc, you would know that if you looked his profile. That calc isn't even on any of the profiles or in the verse page.

Shigaraki is Mach 10 or baseline Hypersonic+ via upscaling from Mach 5.75.

Also how is Shigaraki suppose to even touch someone who is non corporeal and invisible? We do not equalize such powers, Quirks are a biological superpower that don't run off of a universal energy source like KI, Chi, or whatever.

 

[Mand21]

Is Quirk power = Curse power? That's kinda necessary considering only curse energy can hurt curses. Shigaraki also needs the ability to see curses so we don't land into the same Jojo vs threads traps: "only stand users can see stands", " only stands can hurt stands" etc that make vs battles against other verses pointless.

I suppose verse equalization should allow for that. At least so a battle can actually happen, y'know? At the very least, infrared vision should allow for detection of curses, and Decay should be one of the quirks that work on them.

 

[Mand21]

Uh we don't use that calc, you would know that if you looked his profile. That calc isn't even on any of the profiles or in the verse page.

Shigaraki is Mach 10 or baseline Hypersonic+ via upscaling from Mach 5.75.

Also how is Shigaraki suppose to even touch someone who is non corporeal and invisible? We do not equalize such powers, Quirks are a biological superpower that don't run off of a universal energy source like KI, Chi, or whatever.

Wait, we don't? That does screw me over, since then curses from Jujutsu Kaisen can't really be matched against characters without universal energy sources for their powers.

 

[Arkenis]

I'm voting jogo, if these characters are relative in speed then jogo simply summons his domain and bombards shigaraki with attacks. Also yea jogo is invisble I'll shown here https://s2.mangabeast01.com/manga/Jujutsu-Kaisen/0012-001.png https://s2.mangabeast01.com/manga/Jujutsu-Kaisen/0012-002.png
this is basically a waiter looking at where geto and jogo sit and he can only sense jogo not see.

another thing is that considering jogo is superior to maki in just base, when he summons domain he gets a stats boost, so while shigaraki is likely mach 25 jogo in his domain would gain an amp on top of him scaling above mach 27 here is the stats amp statement https://s2.mangabeast01.com/manga/Jujutsu-Kaisen/0015-009.png

 

[Gitagon]

I'm voting jogo, if these characters are relative in speed then jogo simply summons his domain and bombards shigaraki with attacks. Also yea jogo is invisble I'll shown here https://s2.mangabeast01.com/manga/Jujutsu-Kaisen/0012-001.png https://s2.mangabeast01.com/manga/Jujutsu-Kaisen/0012-002.png
this is basically a waiter looking at where geto and jogo sit and he can only sense jogo not see.

another thing is that considering jogo is superior to maki in just base, when he summons domain he gets a stats boost, so while shigaraki is likely mach 25 jogo in his domain would gain an amp on top of him scaling above mach 27 here is the stats amp statement https://s2.mangabeast01.com/manga/Jujutsu-Kaisen/0015-009.png

I'm sure Jogo can be seen with Infrared just by virtue of being a walking volcano and that being on the quirks AFO had cause the guy was blind post-injury.

However Domains are indeed very busted in the advantages they provide.