Slap Battles Possibly 4-C (2-0-0) (Formerley a 3-A thread)

[Thunderman101]

This Is Mostly Based On Scattered Peices Of Evidence, I do not expect this to get this accepted.

1.The Shattered

So in slap battles theres this boss called the shattered, theyre trapped in the shattered reality, a mirror reality of the main slap battles world, which is a universe based on word of god. The shattered plan was to escape to the main universe to make it look exactly like theirs, this would include shifting islands, destroying things as the shattered s universe is pretty messed up compared to the normal universe.

The Definition Of 3-A is "Characters or objects that can create or destroy all celestial bodies within a finite 3-D space at least equivalent in size to the observable universe via an omnidirectional explosion that covers the entire space, alternately create or significantly affect a 3-D universe or a pocket dimension of comparable size, which does not involve the destruction and/or creation of space-time."

I think this would qualify as significantly effect

Theres also the fact that theres a glove thats very similar to the shattereds powers that the player can use. he Exact Same Light Beams

We can scale the shattered them to hitmans golden bullet, which the player has been shown to use

Theres also the fact that theres a glove thats very similar to the shattereds powers that the player can use. Exact Same Light Beams. And the player can tank them

2.Mortis



Supported by word of god

"
If one were to travel from one realm to the other, consequences would be minimal, as the Positive Chaos and Negative Chaos would cancel each other out. However, if one were to somehow travel close enough to the center of the universe, it would throw everything off balance, and break.. everything. *
https://roblox-slap-battles.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000324973
Technically, you could reach the center of the universe by going "up" from Evil Barzil, but it is an EXTREME distance.. like, REALLY long. It's not like anyone's crazy enough to build a tower or something.. right?

This is exactly what mortis was planning to do, hes basically the ruler of barzil and was planning to go from barzil (positive chaos), to evil barzil (Negative chaos) create a tower in evil barzil to go up and reach the universes center to destroy everything. Now if we assume mortis would be able to survive this (why would he nuke the whole universe if he wasn't going to survive it), then that would make mortis 3-A durability, and as extension the player as they quite literally have a glove that Turns them into mortis:

https://roblox-slap-battles.fandom.com/wiki/Mortis

3.The plate

Also simple, the plate is stated to be the creator of the slap battles universe, it has shown supernatural capabilites like teleportation, immunity to attacks and more

Slap was able to well, slap the plate enough the point it felt it had to kill them. And even has a glove given to them by the plate that uses the plates power.


So I propose 3-a Slap battles:

Edit: Due to disccussion you can read bellow this is now a possibly 4-c rating

New evidence:
Well at the very least the shattered should scale above bob in terms of AP. Durability in slap battles is weird. The eternal bob (bobs final form, who should be stronger then the shattered), cant hard the player with any of his attacks and can only knock him off the map. Meanwhile the shattered can easily harm slap with their light beams

Thanks, are you referring to these quotes?

If so, I think it's just too vague to give a 3-A creation feat, even a possibly isn't really substantiated I think.

I think those are separate abilities that don't prove nor disprove your case, it's unrelated. At least that's how I see it.

Hmmm, well, if you can show that the Shattered is capable of defeating Bob, I think it could work, I would need to see the full reasoning to be sure.

Bob Was Originally A Greek God, he tormented humans before being sealed in a gauntlet, which limited his powers.

Him Being In A Weakened State Is Backed Up By The Fact He Needs To Absorb Peoples Souls To Get Stronger

Eventually He Is Able To Reach His True Form, The Eternal Bob. It’s Easy To Tell Which Is Which Based On His Face

Bob In His Weakened Form Was Able To Become The Sun (I know a twitter screenshot is not the most reliable, but it is in the game and I’m too lazy to go in and take a screenshot). (Also the Wiki Says He's The Sun)


The Player Can Damage Bob In His Eternal Form. And cant be dammaged by him







Agree:Arkansalter2,SweetDao

Disagree:

Neutral:

 

[Thunderman101]

Forgot to mention some things here will update later

 

[Thunderman101]

bump + changes have been added (to the crt not slaps profile)

 

[Thunderman101]

boop

 

[Thunderman101]

@Arkansalter2 u got any thoughts on this?

 

[Thunderman101]

bump (please someone reply, @Arkansalter2 we need traction)

 

[Thunderman101]

Bump

 

[Arkansalter2]

Neutral. Seems like a stretch.

 

[Thunderman101]

Neutral. Seems like a stretch.

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[Thunderman101]

boop

 

[Thunderman101]

bump

 

[Thunderman101]

bump, bro can someone please come here

 

[Thunderman101]

Bump

 

[Thunderman101]

Bump

 

[Arkansalter2]

Shouldn't 3-A have a finite number of how much this scales to?

 

[Thunderman101]

Shouldn't 3-A have a finite number of how much this scales to?

true

 

[SweetDao]

I checked the scans for the first part of the CRT, I'm not certain if I missed something or not, so feel free to point it out, but where exactly is it stated or showed that he would impact the normal reality as a whole in one go? Because, the way I see it, it seems more like a process rather than a one-hit thing.

If there's no proof that he can "impact the universe as a whole" in one go, then it can be anything lower without it posing a problem.

 

[Thunderman101]

I checked the scans for the first part of the CRT, I'm not certain if I missed something or not, so feel free to point it out, but where exactly is it stated or showed that he would impact the normal reality as a whole in one go? Because, the way I see it, it seems more like a process rather than a one-hit thing.

If there's no proof that he can "impact the universe as a whole" in one go, then it can be anything lower without it posing a problem.

would it be better as an overtime thing then?

Also I think slap would still scale to the plate creating the universe as the power of plate glove was recived directly from the plate.

 

[SweetDao]

would it be better as an overtime thing then?

I'm not sure if "overtime" ratings works like this, because technically speaking, you could "destroy the universe" by taking out one heavenly bodies at a time, but you wouldn't be 3-A at the end, just planet/star level.

Do you have the direct statement confirming that they are the creator of the universe? (I can't check videos rn, for whatever reason?) And if possible how did they do it? Is it clarified?

But I think in any case, it would most likely be 3-A with creation at best, unless you can somehow link the creation power with their physicals (or if there is a UES in the verse for example)

 

[Thunderman101]

I'm not sure if "overtime" ratings works like this, because technically speaking, you could "destroy the universe" by taking out one heavenly bodies at a time, but you wouldn't be 3-A at the end, just planet/star level.

Do you have the direct statement confirming that they are the creator of the universe? (I can't check videos rn, for whatever reason?) And if possible how did they do it? Is it clarified?

But I think in any case, it would most likely be 3-A with creation at best, unless you can somehow link the creation power with their physicals (or if there is a UES in the verse for example)

Its stated here, the plate has a bunch of signs that just give lore stuff so it should be accurate

https://roblox-slap-battles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Plate

The plates also shown teleportation, ability immunity, and knowledge on things it shouldnt really know so it kinda lines up

As for the shattered i think we might be able to scale to 4-c. Another character, bob, was able to absorb enough mass to become the sun (ill get the scan soon), so would that work?

 

[Thunderman101]

I mean i guess i could argue for ues in slap but id be reallly stretching it

 

[SweetDao]

Its stated here, the plate has a bunch of signs that just give lore stuff so it should be accurate
https://roblox-slap-battles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Plate

Thanks, are you referring to these quotes?

"plate. the creator of gloves"
"the plate is the creator of all"
"Welcome to the plate of creation"

If so, I think it's just too vague to give a 3-A creation feat, even a possibly isn't really substantiated I think.

The plates also shown teleportation, ability immunity, and knowledge on things it shouldnt really know so it kinda lines up

I think those are separate abilities that don't prove nor disprove your case, it's unrelated. At least that's how I see it.

As for the shattered i think we might be able to scale to 4-c. Another character, bob, was able to absorb enough mass to become the sun (ill get the scan soon), so would that work?

Hmmm, well, if you can show that the Shattered is capable of defeating Bob, I think it could work, I would need to see the full reasoning to be sure.

 

[Thunderman101]

Well at the very least the shattered should scale above bob in terms of AP. Durability in slap battles is weird. The eternal bob (bobs final form, who should be stronger then the shattered), cant hard the player with any of his attacks and can only knock him off the map. Meanwhile the shattered can easily harm slap with their light beams

Thanks, are you referring to these quotes?

If so, I think it's just too vague to give a 3-A creation feat, even a possibly isn't really substantiated I think.

I think those are separate abilities that don't prove nor disprove your case, it's unrelated. At least that's how I see it.

Hmmm, well, if you can show that the Shattered is capable of defeating Bob, I think it could work, I would need to see the full reasoning to be sure.

Im just gonna summarize bobs whole shtic.


Bob Was Originally A Greek God, he tormented humans before being sealed in a gauntlet, which limited his powers.

Him Being In A Weakened State Is Backed Up By The Fact He Needs To Absorb Peoples Souls To Get Stronger

Eventually He Is Able To Reach His True Form, The Eternal Bob. It’s Easy To Tell Which Is Which Based On His Face

Bob In His Weakened Form Was Able To Become The Sun (I know a twitter screenshot is not the most reliable, but it is in the game and I’m too lazy to go in and take a screenshot). (Also the Wiki Says He's The Sun)


The Player Can Damage Bob In His Eternal Form. And cant be dammaged by him

 

[Thunderman101]

Well at the very least the shattered should scale above bob in terms of AP. Durability in slap battles is weird. The eternal bob (bobs final form, who should be stronger then the shattered), cant hard the player with any of his attacks and can only knock him off the map. Meanwhile the shattered can easily harm slap with their light beams

Im just gonna summarize bobs whole shtic.


Bob Was Originally A Greek God, he tormented humans before being sealed in a gauntlet, which limited his powers.

Him Being In A Weakened State Is Backed Up By The Fact He Needs To Absorb Peoples Souls To Get Stronger

Eventually He Is Able To Reach His True Form, The Eternal Bob. It’s Easy To Tell Which Is Which Based On His Face

Bob In His Weakened Form Was Able To Become The Sun (I know a twitter screenshot is not the most reliable, but it is in the game and I’m too lazy to go in and take a screenshot). (Also the Wiki Says He's The Sun)


The Player Can Damage Bob In His Eternal Form. And cant be dammaged by him

slap royale got an update that helps my point kinda. Apparently bob gains mass when he absorbs things, so in order to get that big he likley had to absorb the sun, evidence by the fact that he is now glowing and the big yellow sun ball on other maps isint there. Either way he had to get rid of the sun somehow to take its place as its likley he didnt become the sun, he gained enough mass to become as big of it.

 

[SweetDao]

I'll check when I'll get a bit more time

 

[Arkansalter2]

Theres also the issue that 3-A needs a finite value, which is not displayed anywhere in this CRT.

 

[Thunderman101]

Theres also the issue that 3-A needs a finite value, which is not displayed anywhere in this CRT.

how would i find it

 

[SweetDao]

Theres also the issue that 3-A needs a finite value, which is not displayed anywhere in this CRT.

I think that without additional input, it would just be baseline?

 

[SweetDao]

Well at the very least the shattered should scale above bob in terms of AP. Durability in slap battles is weird. The eternal bob (bobs final form, who should be stronger then the shattered), cant hard the player with any of his attacks and can only knock him off the map. Meanwhile the shattered can easily harm slap with their light beams

Wouldn't that be more of a fight gimmick rather than direct scaling?

Bob In His Weakened Form Was Able To Become The Sun (I know a twitter screenshot is not the most reliable, but it is in the game and I’m too lazy to go in and take a screenshot). (Also the Wiki Says He's The Sun)

Is there any better source to this than just that tweet (that isn't the wiki, like in-game source, WoG, cinematic, etc) ?

The Player Can Damage Bob In His Eternal Form. And cant be dammaged by him

But do we know how he transformed into the Sun? Because that could just be a transformation ability that makes him 4-C, but not his physicals/attack power 4-C.

slap royale got an update that helps my point kinda. Apparently bob gains mass when he absorbs things, so in order to get that big he likley had to absorb the sun, evidence by the fact that he is now glowing and the big yellow sun ball on other maps isint there. Either way he had to get rid of the sun somehow to take its place as its likley he didnt become the sun, he gained enough mass to become as big of it.

Could you point out the moment when he becomes the Sun in the video? Or maybe I misunderstood what you meant, and you're referring to the Twitter image.

However, that would be "X tier, eventually 4-C with absorption", I don't think that the fact Eternal Bob is superior to a weakened Bob can infer that "he's stronger than a Bob that absorbed the sun", unless you have a scan that can establish such a line of thinking.

 

[Thunderman101]

Wouldn't that be more of a fight gimmick rather than direct scaling?

Is there any better source to this than just that tweet (that isn't the wiki, like in-game source, WoG, cinematic, etc) ?

But do we know how he transformed into the Sun? Because that could just be a transformation ability that makes him 4-C, but not his physicals/attack power 4-C.

Could you point out the moment when he becomes the Sun in the video? Or maybe I misunderstood what you meant, and you're referring to the Twitter image.

However, that would be "X tier, eventually 4-C with absorption", I don't think that the fact Eternal Bob is superior to a weakened Bob can infer that "he's stronger than a Bob that absorbed the sun", unless you have a scan that can establish such a line of thinking.

Not nessecarily, pretty sure hed just have higher ap

And yeah the bob sun still is in the game ill get a clip

Its a major assumption on my part. So in the lore bob used to terrorise the island and the scientist notes (1:35) says the only bob sample that was on the island began absorbing people and gaining mass. Combine that with the fact that the sun is replaced with bob, impretty sure what happened is bob continued to absorb things to gain mass till he eventually reached that size. Especially since theres no other sighting of bob on the island. Even though bob absorbed the sun dosent change the fact hes still in his base form

 

[SweetDao]

Its a major assumption on my part. So in the lore bob used to terrorise the island and the scientist notes (1:35) says the only bob sample that was on the island began absorbing people and gaining mass. Combine that with the fact that the sun is replaced with bob, impretty sure what happened is bob continued to absorb things to gain mass till he eventually reached that size. Especially since theres no other sighting of bob on the island. Even though bob absorbed the sun dosent change the fact hes still in his base form

I think it's not totally impossible, but it would be better if you could substantiate that idea with some scans, because "at most" you're going for a possibly imo.

And yeah, I'm not saying that he's in his best form, but it's more about "how/why is Eternal Bob stronger than the weakened one". Because, without accounting for absorption, you do agree that Eternal Bob > Weakened Bob. The issue at hand is about "Eternal Bob" upscaling from the "weakened Bob that absorbed the Sun".

And yeah the bob sun still is in the game ill get a clip

Yeah, assuming his whole gimmick is absorbing stuff and gaining mass, I suppose it's not too much of a stretch to assume he did become the sun. I'm just not sure about the upscaling of Eternal Bob. I understand the idea that "well, technically speaking, it's his prime, so it should be above the 'prime' of the weakened form", but I feel like it's a bit iffy here.

You know, I see it a bit like:

Character A has reactive evolution; character B is stronger than A. Therefore, B will always be stronger than A, including the peak A would eventually reach with his RE.

Seems a bit tenuous to argue. But maybe it's just me being too strict.

 

[Thunderman101]

I think it's not totally impossible, but it would be better if you could substantiate that idea with some scans, because "at most" you're going for a possibly imo.

And yeah, I'm not saying that he's in his best form, but it's more about "how/why is Eternal Bob stronger than the weakened one". Because, without accounting for absorption, you do agree that Eternal Bob > Weakened Bob. The issue at hand is about "Eternal Bob" upscaling from the "weakened Bob that absorbed the Sun".

Yeah, assuming his whole gimmick is absorbing stuff and gaining mass, I suppose it's not too much of a stretch to assume he did become the sun. I'm just not sure about the upscaling of Eternal Bob. I understand the idea that "well, technically speaking, it's his prime, so it should be above the 'prime' of the weakened form", but I feel like it's a bit iffy here.

You know, I see it a bit like:

Character A has reactive evolution; character B is stronger than A. Therefore, B will always be stronger than A, including the peak A would eventually reach with his RE.

Seems a bit tenuous to argue. But maybe it's just me being too strict.

thats fair

 

[Thunderman101]

Although, I dont see logically why the gods would make it so bob could easily reach a power similar to his true form or possibly greater if the whole point of bob being sealed was to make sure he could never be as strong as he could againj.

I think it's not totally impossible, but it would be better if you could substantiate that idea with some scans, because "at most" you're going for a possibly imo.

And yeah, I'm not saying that he's in his best form, but it's more about "how/why is Eternal Bob stronger than the weakened one". Because, without accounting for absorption, you do agree that Eternal Bob > Weakened Bob. The issue at hand is about "Eternal Bob" upscaling from the "weakened Bob that absorbed the Sun".

Yeah, assuming his whole gimmick is absorbing stuff and gaining mass, I suppose it's not too much of a stretch to assume he did become the sun. I'm just not sure about the upscaling of Eternal Bob. I understand the idea that "well, technically speaking, it's his prime, so it should be above the 'prime' of the weakened form", but I feel like it's a bit iffy here.

You know, I see it a bit like:

Character A has reactive evolution; character B is stronger than A. Therefore, B will always be stronger than A, including the peak A would eventually reach with his RE.

Seems a bit tenuous to argue. But maybe it's just me being too strict.

thats fair

 

[SweetDao]

Although, I dont see logically why the gods would make it so bob could easily reach a power similar to his true form or possibly greater if the whole point of bob being sealed was to make sure he could never be as strong as he could againj.

hmmm, maybe the true form isn't focusing on strength (since his strength comes from absorbing stuff) but more about being "freed"/unrestrained? Or maybe something about hax? Idk, just giving some food for thought, but I could be wrong too.

 

[Thunderman101]

hmmm, maybe the true form isn't focusing on strength (since his strength comes from absorbing stuff) but more about being "freed"/unrestrained? Or maybe something about hax? Idk, just giving some food for thought, but I could be wrong too.

so would maybe listing them as 4-c be better?

 

[SweetDao]

so would maybe listing them as 4-c be better?

My bad, I kind of forgot to reply. Who are "them" in the context? Weakened Bob and the Player? Well, if the player is shown to tank and be capable of harming the Sun form of Bob, sure.

I just don't really know where to pull Eternal Bob in this. Maybe a "probably 4-C, likely higher" would make more sense if you still wish to go under the assumption he should be stronger than his Weakened form (+ sun absorbed)

 

[Thunderman101]

My bad, I kind of forgot to reply. Who are "them" in the context? Weakened Bob and the Player? Well, if the player is shown to tank and be capable of harming the Sun form of Bob, sure.

I just don't really know where to pull Eternal Bob in this. Maybe a "probably 4-C, likely higher" would make more sense if you still wish to go under the assumption he should be stronger than his Weakened form (+ sun absorbed)

The players been shown to harm eternal bob, so i think 4-c likley higher for both of them would work

 

[SweetDao]

The players been shown to harm eternal bob, so i think 4-c likley higher for both of them would work

I would prefer the "4-C" to be a possibly, but besides this, I think it makes sense yeah

 

[Arkansalter2]

Yeah now that this is 4-C, I'll switch to agree.

 

[Thunderman101]

Yeah now that this is 4-C, I'll switch to agree.

I would prefer the "4-C" to be a possibly, but besides this, I think it makes sense yeah

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