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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Operator_(Marble_Hornets)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Slender_Man_(2018_Film)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Slenderman_(Slender:_The_Eight_Pages))
The Slender Mythos hasn't been meaningfully touched by the wiki in quite some time and when looking at the current profiles and way continuity is handled, it's clear that this desperately needs to change. This is a part one on Slender Continuity me and my friends are reworking on.
Reasons For The Game(s) Being Canon: Slender The Arrival is very easy to explain continuity-wise,Victor Surge served as a producer and the game was officially licensed through him. It is worth noting that in this case it is fair to assume that 'officially licensed' means 'same continuity' as there's 0 evidence of different continuities when it comes to the Slender Man IP. He is even faithful to his original counterpart such being able to cause fires as being able to cause fires like the original Mythos, do mind stuff and cause illusions, make darkness and corrupt corrupt people and more on.
Note: Arrival's final bonus chapter is a remake of 8 Pages, that chapter is canon. But the 2012 game Slender: The Eight Pages isn't canon, thus meaning Slender: The Eight Pages was retroactively canon.
Evidence For The Movie Being Canon: There is.. really nothing that makes the movie a different continuity, in-fact—Victor himself has sold the rights to the character to Mythology Entertainment to make the movie. The company that created it has the rights to the character and even shows us the images of the Slenderman images from the Mythos and people commenting on Slenderman, and the fact that even the movie is faithful to the Slenderman such as…
His ability to walk on his tentacles
him becoming aware of his targets once they become aware of him
and the various things he does to you mentally
being in dreams and manipulating them
and nightmares
Are all things done by the original mythos Slenderman. In general Slenderman in the film is actually one of the most accurate to the original mythos Slenderman out there behavior wise, even other official materials such as Slender: The Arrival mostly followed in the footsteps of Marble Hornets behavior wise. This makes giving movie Slenderman his own page relatively pointless.
Marble Hornets Canonicity: Marble Hornets is mentioned not once, not twice, but three times. This comment in the thread is actually an in-universe Jay basically explaining what he would explain in the introductory Marble Hornets video. The Operator symbol also appears in the loading screen of Arrival—which Troy and Joseph (the creators of Marble Hornets), also helped write.
There’s also Eric himself saying it’s semi-canon and even being an executive producer on Always Watching: A Marble Hornets Story.
There’s also a person in the 2018 Slenderman novel stating they watched Marble Hornets here. (page 50)
All of this makes it pretty clear that Marble Hornets is indeed canon to the original Mythos.
Slenderman=The Operator: Alright so Marble Hornets is canon, but what about our friend The Operator? His profile should stay separate, after all he's not Slenderman right? Wrong!
It's best to start with the severe amount of coincidences that would be required for Marble Hornets to be canon while keeping The Operator. So, there just so happens to be another pale, thin, tall entity with no face that messes with you mentally, but it has no relation to Slenderman at all? Yeah, right...
Of course, that can't be the main argument though, something seeming unreasonable doesn't mean it's not the case. Luckily there is other evidence, as mentioned earlier, The Operator symbol shows up in Slender: The Arrivals loading screen—therefore trying to symbol to what is verifiably Slenderman. Jay’s SomethingAwful message directly stated that he posted there because he was wondering if the Slenderman had something to do with what Alex was talking about on that day, and the smoking gun? The officially licensed 2018 Slenderman movie novel (readable here) directly ties the series Marble Hornets to Slenderman in-universe (page 26 and page 69).
“But hasn’t it been stated that they are separate?”
This is a common point most will make about the subject and the answer is… no, not through anything that’s been archived or easily findable anyway. Eric has recited a memory where Joseph said that The Operator isn’t necessarily Slenderman… buuuut this is more likely isn’t talking about continuity (atleast not in the way we’re using it here), rather this is likely talking about a desire for a crossover (particularly with Slenderverse media) as the full context is that Joseph essentially said ‘everyone can still do their Slenderman stuff, we just wanna stay our own thing’.
This line of thinking is consistent with a later statement during a Slender: The Arrival interview where they shoot down the idea of crossovers, stating they want Marble Hornets to remain separate and in its own bubble.
This is not referring to clear continuity nor the identity of the entity in Marble Hornets, rather just a desire to keep Marble Hornets separate. The best analogy is how say, the current 616 Hulk run won't tie into the current 616 Spider-Man despite them being in the same universe. 'Separate' doesn't always mean 'non-canon'.
Still this is admittedly a bit of a controversial idea, as such the option to merge everything BUT The Operator will be left on the table.
Credits to…
Yoggy’s Slenderman canonicity blog
The Slenderman Vs Siren Head blog you can find.
FNAF Fan_1234
Morta, FNAF Fan and me have provided and tried to revamp some stuff, however, this isn’t the end! As Slenderman’s hax and stat stuff are gonna be in the part 2 revision.
Agree:
Disagree:
Agree to merge everything but The Operator:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Slender_Man_(2018_Film)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Slenderman_(Slender:_The_Eight_Pages))
The Slender Mythos hasn't been meaningfully touched by the wiki in quite some time and when looking at the current profiles and way continuity is handled, it's clear that this desperately needs to change. This is a part one on Slender Continuity me and my friends are reworking on.
Reasons For The Game(s) Being Canon: Slender The Arrival is very easy to explain continuity-wise,Victor Surge served as a producer and the game was officially licensed through him. It is worth noting that in this case it is fair to assume that 'officially licensed' means 'same continuity' as there's 0 evidence of different continuities when it comes to the Slender Man IP. He is even faithful to his original counterpart such being able to cause fires as being able to cause fires like the original Mythos, do mind stuff and cause illusions, make darkness and corrupt corrupt people and more on.
Note: Arrival's final bonus chapter is a remake of 8 Pages, that chapter is canon. But the 2012 game Slender: The Eight Pages isn't canon, thus meaning Slender: The Eight Pages was retroactively canon.
Evidence For The Movie Being Canon: There is.. really nothing that makes the movie a different continuity, in-fact—Victor himself has sold the rights to the character to Mythology Entertainment to make the movie. The company that created it has the rights to the character and even shows us the images of the Slenderman images from the Mythos and people commenting on Slenderman, and the fact that even the movie is faithful to the Slenderman such as…
His ability to walk on his tentacles
him becoming aware of his targets once they become aware of him
and the various things he does to you mentally
being in dreams and manipulating them
and nightmares
Are all things done by the original mythos Slenderman. In general Slenderman in the film is actually one of the most accurate to the original mythos Slenderman out there behavior wise, even other official materials such as Slender: The Arrival mostly followed in the footsteps of Marble Hornets behavior wise. This makes giving movie Slenderman his own page relatively pointless.
Marble Hornets Canonicity: Marble Hornets is mentioned not once, not twice, but three times. This comment in the thread is actually an in-universe Jay basically explaining what he would explain in the introductory Marble Hornets video. The Operator symbol also appears in the loading screen of Arrival—which Troy and Joseph (the creators of Marble Hornets), also helped write.
There’s also Eric himself saying it’s semi-canon and even being an executive producer on Always Watching: A Marble Hornets Story.
There’s also a person in the 2018 Slenderman novel stating they watched Marble Hornets here. (page 50)
All of this makes it pretty clear that Marble Hornets is indeed canon to the original Mythos.
Slenderman=The Operator: Alright so Marble Hornets is canon, but what about our friend The Operator? His profile should stay separate, after all he's not Slenderman right? Wrong!
It's best to start with the severe amount of coincidences that would be required for Marble Hornets to be canon while keeping The Operator. So, there just so happens to be another pale, thin, tall entity with no face that messes with you mentally, but it has no relation to Slenderman at all? Yeah, right...
Of course, that can't be the main argument though, something seeming unreasonable doesn't mean it's not the case. Luckily there is other evidence, as mentioned earlier, The Operator symbol shows up in Slender: The Arrivals loading screen—therefore trying to symbol to what is verifiably Slenderman. Jay’s SomethingAwful message directly stated that he posted there because he was wondering if the Slenderman had something to do with what Alex was talking about on that day, and the smoking gun? The officially licensed 2018 Slenderman movie novel (readable here) directly ties the series Marble Hornets to Slenderman in-universe (page 26 and page 69).
“But hasn’t it been stated that they are separate?”
This is a common point most will make about the subject and the answer is… no, not through anything that’s been archived or easily findable anyway. Eric has recited a memory where Joseph said that The Operator isn’t necessarily Slenderman… buuuut this is more likely isn’t talking about continuity (atleast not in the way we’re using it here), rather this is likely talking about a desire for a crossover (particularly with Slenderverse media) as the full context is that Joseph essentially said ‘everyone can still do their Slenderman stuff, we just wanna stay our own thing’.
This line of thinking is consistent with a later statement during a Slender: The Arrival interview where they shoot down the idea of crossovers, stating they want Marble Hornets to remain separate and in its own bubble.
This is not referring to clear continuity nor the identity of the entity in Marble Hornets, rather just a desire to keep Marble Hornets separate. The best analogy is how say, the current 616 Hulk run won't tie into the current 616 Spider-Man despite them being in the same universe. 'Separate' doesn't always mean 'non-canon'.
Still this is admittedly a bit of a controversial idea, as such the option to merge everything BUT The Operator will be left on the table.
Credits to…
Yoggy’s Slenderman canonicity blog
The Slenderman Vs Siren Head blog you can find.
FNAF Fan_1234
Morta, FNAF Fan and me have provided and tried to revamp some stuff, however, this isn’t the end! As Slenderman’s hax and stat stuff are gonna be in the part 2 revision.
Agree:
Disagree:
Agree to merge everything but The Operator:
