Small and self evident Undertale additions

Hello guys, this is my first CRT so i'm sorry if it doesn't match the standards or has something wrong in it

Papyrus:​

Vehicular Mastery: Papyrus can drive a sport car with his eyes closed

Frisk and Asriel:​

These abilities are for their final keys

Enhanced Ressurection and self soul manipulation: Frisk can refuse death and undo any damage done to their soul, ressurecting in the past after their souls are restored. Asriel should have this ability due to having equal determination (already acepted on his profile)

Immortality [type 2]: Frisk could survive Asriel's final attack with only 1/10.000.000.000 of their HP left. Asriel should scale to this due to having the same determination level as Frisk).

Save and Heal:​

Conditional healing: Interacting with a Save point restores your HP to the max

This applies to every one who can use the Save system:

• Frisk (all keys)
• Human souls(all keys)
• Chara ( first key and while possesing Frisk)
• Asriel Dreemurr (by his second key)
• Almagamate physiology

Weapon Masters:​

Asgore Dreemurr: Uses a trident to fight and was in the war between humans and monsters. Undyne couldn't hit Asgore even once, until he started to train her

Undyne : Is the leader of the Royal Guard and uses a spear to fight. Was directly trained by Asgore Dreemurr ).

Heat Shenanigans:​

Basically, Frisk has acepted resistance to 9000° F. Meaning that every character able to burn Frisk should upscale from this value

•Boss monsters
•Pyrope
•Tsunderplane
•Vulkin
•Knight knight
•Mr. Sunshine

 

[God_of_perversion]

Awn goddamnit, it doesn't work like Sandboxes and Userblogs do. Guess i gotta edit all links
Edit: This is embarassing, stop seeing this until i fix everything
Edit#2: Done

 

[ScoutManeater]

I agree with everything the only thing I could see people having a problem with is maybe the asriel 0.00001 thing but everything else seems pretty self explanatory

 

[God_of_perversion]

I agree with everything the only thing I could see people having a problem with is maybe the asriel 0.00001 thing but everything else seems pretty self explanatory

I'm thinking of adding "limited" or "only for their souls" to the immo2, do you think it is a great idea?

 

[ScoutManeater]

I'm thinking of adding "limited" or "only for their souls" to the immo2, do you think it is a great idea?

I think it would limited to peak determination I agree with it at like peak determination but if its only to the SOUL then it would most likely be restricted to the player or soul profile cuz I think we have that

 

[God_of_perversion]

I think it would limited to peak determination I agree with it at like peak determination but if its only to the SOUL then it would most likely be restricted to the player or soul profile cuz I think we have that

The immo2 is proposed only for their last keys and not any other. I don't see why it would be limited to the player/Frisk when it is just another determination ability

 

[AyOgUyS]

This seems straightforward and uncontroversial. Agree.

 

[Speedblitzer50]

Papyrus:​

Vehicular Mastery: Papyrus can drive a sport car with his eyes closed

Papyrus is not driving with high skill, he is just driving in straight line wich is something that don't need high skill to do and having the eyes closed don't change something because there is nothing in his direct way to avoid. And after he open the eyes, driving to another side the way he do is too basic, there is not vehicular mastery.

Save and Heal:​

Conditional healing: Interacting with a Save point restores your HP to the max).

This applies to every one who can use the Save system:

• Frisk (all keys)
• Human souls(all keys)
• Chara ( first key and while possesing Frisk)
• Asriel Dreemurr (by his second key)
• Almagamate physiology

This is fine but the almagamates don't use the save system, Lemon bread just transform into a save point but don't save or use it any way and we don't know if that is even a real save point with all his characteristics or just a basic imitation.

Agree with the rest.

 

[God_of_perversion]

This is fine but the almagamates don't use the save system, Lemon bread just transform into a save point but don't save or use it any way and we don't know if that is even a real save point with all his characteristics or just a basic imitation.

Agree with the rest.

The fact that they can mimick the Save system proves that they used it at some point. The healing i'm proposing is conditional and not combat applicable unless the OP of a battle tread says that there are Saves around the arena

 

[Speedblitzer50]

The fact that they can mimick the Save system proves that they used it at some point.

How? For example I can mimic a gun with household materials but that don't mean I automatically used a real gun before, much less that the household gun works the same way that a real gun.

 

[ScoutManeater]

How? I can mimic a gun with household materials but that don't mean I automatically used a real gun before, much less that the household gun works the same way that a real gun.

they are litreally injected with determination in the game and people with the highest determination especially if they are pit against someone outside of undertale or other monsters they would have the most determination and should be able to use the save system theoretically

 

[Speedblitzer50]

they are litreally injected with determination in the game and people with the highest determination especially if they are pit against someone outside of undertale or other monsters they would have the most determination and should be able to use the save system theoretically

We can't have theoretical powers that the characters never used in the story in the profiles, otherwise all the monsters will have a low 1-C key because they all can use the six human souls but never do in the story outside of flowey/Asriel. And they being inyected with determination doesn't prove that exact one save file lemon bread transformed is identical in characteristics to the real/pure ones, just prove that they can mimic his form and that's it, wich is what is actually showed.

 

[God_of_perversion]

We can't have theoretical powers that the characters never used in the story in the profiles,

Determination isn't theoritical, it is the sole reason why they are almagamates in the first place

otherwise all the monsters will have a low 1-C key because they all can use the six human souls but never do in the story outside of flowey/Asriel.

That's a horrible false equivalent and you know it

And they being inyected with determination doesn't prove that exact one save file lemon bread transformed is identical in characteristics to the real/pure ones

I'm not saying that the Almagamates can just pull a Save and load out of their asses. I'm saying that it is canon that Almagamates could use the Save system in the past and thus they could use it if they had acess to it again. For example: If some one made a matchup with an Almagamate, the OP could choose to place Saves around the arena so the Almagamates could use

just prove that they can mimic his form and that's it, wich is what is actually showed.

Them mimicking it proves that they can use it as long as they have control over the timeline. Which isn't a hypothetical ability because they have show to have taken control over the timiline in the past

 

[Speedblitzer50]

Determination isn't theoritical, it is the sole reason why they are almagamates in the first place That's a horrible false equivalent and you know it I'm not saying that the Almagamates can just pull a Save and load out of their asses. I'm saying that it is canon that Almagamates could use the Save system in the past and thus they could use it if they had acess to it again. For example: If some one made a matchup with an Almagamate, the OP could choose to place Saves around the arena so the Almagamates could use

I'm not saying DT as a whole is theoritical, I'm saying that the almagamates using the save systems is theoritical/hypothetical because is not showed or stated they used it, you are just saying that they could use it because lemon bread mimic a save point that is not even proved to be equal to the normal ones and because they have determination. They have determination so is sure you could argue they can use save system but is just hypothetical and they never do that in the story, I mentioned the monsters and human souls example because is the same problem, all monsters can hypothetically use the six human souls but since is hypothetical we can't give every monster a Low 1-C key, same with DT we can't give the almagamates the ability to use the save system if they had acess to it because is hypothetical, they don't showed or stated they used it, that's why the human souls example it's not a false equivalency.

Them mimicking it proves that they can use it as long as they have control over the timeline. Which isn't a hypothetical ability because they have show to have taken control over the timiline in the past

I repeat, how mimicking something that don't work like the normal thing proves they have used the normal thing? Even if we assume they could use it if they have acess, it will be because of they DT being comparable to DT users that show to use it but using the fake save point as a prove is bad because don't prove nothing, when even the almagamates showed to have control over the timeline in the past? Mimicking a save point that don't work as a normal save point don't prove that, and since the almagamates could hypothetically use the save points but never used it in the story, it shouldn't be in they profiles.

 

[ScoutManeater]

I'm not saying DT as a whole is theoritical, I'm saying that the almagamates using the save systems is theoritical/hypothetical because is not showed or stated they used it, you are just saying that they could use it because lemon bread mimic a save point that is not even proved to be equal to the normal ones and because they have determination. They have determination so is sure you could argue they can use save system but is just hypothetical and they never do that in the story, I mentioned the monsters and human souls example because is the same problem, all monsters can hypothetically use the six human souls but since is hypothetical we can't give every monster a Low 1-C key, same with DT we can't give the almagamates the ability to use the save system if they had acess to it because is hypothetical, they don't showed or stated they used it, that's why the human souls example it's not a false equivalency.

I repeat, how mimicking something that don't work like the normal thing proves they have used the normal thing? Even if we assume they could use it if they have acess, it will be because of they DT being comparable to DT users that show to use it but using the fake save point as a prove is bad because don't prove nothing, when even the almagamates showed to have control over the timeline in the past? Mimicking a save point that don't work as a normal save point don't prove that, and since the almagamates could hypothetically use the save points but never used it in the story, it shouldn't be in they profiles.

Having the most determination has been shown to give you access to save and load its litreally shown through the fact a Frisk who just fell down had access to SAVE and LOAD over flowey. Having DT has shown to give you access to SAVE and LOAD unless theres someone with more Determination than you and yes like what perversion said it would most likely the save points we see Frisk use which is just random save points around and before boss fights

Also them mimicking it shows that they know what it looks like no one would know what a SAVE point looks like if they didnt have access to it at one point in time and DT the thing they are injected with is the direct key to have it

 

[ScoutManeater]

I'm not saying DT as a whole is theoritical, I'm saying that the almagamates using the save systems is theoritical/hypothetical because is not showed or stated they used it, you are just saying that they could use it because lemon bread mimic a save point that is not even proved to be equal to the normal ones and because they have determination. They have determination so is sure you could argue they can use save system but is just hypothetical and they never do that in the story, I mentioned the monsters and human souls example because is the same problem, all monsters can hypothetically use the six human souls but since is hypothetical we can't give every monster a Low 1-C key, same with DT we can't give the almagamates the ability to use the save system if they had acess to it because is hypothetical, they don't showed or stated they used it, that's why the human souls example it's not a false equivalency.

The Six Souls is a item. This is a direct injection of the main power source that would give them access to said SAVE and LOAD it would be more plausiable if the amalgamates didnt show that they know what the SAVE star looked like

Again DT is accepted and shown to be the main power source and key to using SAVE and LOAD

 

[God_of_perversion]

I'm not saying DT as a whole is theoritical, I'm saying that the almagamates using the save systems is theoritical/hypothetical because is not showed or stated they used it, you are just saying that they could use it because lemon bread mimic a save point that is not even proved to be equal to the normal ones and because they have determination. They have determination so is sure you could argue they can use save system but is just hypothetical and they never do that in the story, I mentioned the monsters and human souls example because is the same problem, all monsters can hypothetically use the six human souls but since is hypothetical we can't give every monster a Low 1-C key, same with DT we can't give the almagamates the ability to use the save system if they had acess to it because is hypothetical, they don't showed or stated they used it, that's why the human souls example it's not a false equivalency.

I repeat, how mimicking something that don't work like the normal thing proves they have used the normal thing? Even if we assume they could use it if they have acess, it will be because of they DT being comparable to DT users that show to use it but using the fake save point as a prove is bad because don't prove nothing, when even the almagamates showed to have control over the timeline in the past? Mimicking a save point that don't work as a normal save point don't prove that, and since the almagamates could hypothetically use the save points but never used it in the story, it shouldn't be in they profiles.

To see a Save point, you need control over the timeline and the ability to see and use it in the first place. The only way that Lemon Bread could have 1:1 mimicked a Save system is by him having used it in the past. Saves, loads and resets can only be seen and used by those who have control over the timeline

 

[Jepilstiltskin]

How? For example I can mimic a gun with household materials but that don't mean I automatically used a real gun before, much less that the household gun works the same way that a real gun.

You need to conceptually know the gun before you mimic them. This is a bad argument.

 

[Speedblitzer50]

Having the most determination has been shown to give you access to save and load its litreally shown through the fact a Frisk who just fell down had access to SAVE and LOAD over flowey. Having DT has shown to give you access to SAVE and LOAD unless theres someone with more Determination than you and yes like what perversion said it would most likely the save points we see Frisk use which is just random save points around and before boss fights

Also them mimicking it shows that they know what it looks like no one would know what a SAVE point looks like if they didnt have access to it at one point in time and DT the thing they are injected with is the direct key to have it

The Six Souls is a item. This is a direct injection of the main power source that would give them access to said SAVE and LOAD it would be more plausiable if the amalgamates didnt show that they know what the SAVE star looked like

Again DT is accepted and shown to be the main power source and key to using SAVE and LOAD

I already said one could argue they can use save system because of they DT being comparable to the DT of others who have showed it, nothing bad with that but it's hypothetical because in fact they don't showed or stated they used it

And no, they knowing what the save point looks like don't prove they used it, just prove they haved acess to it in the past thanks to they DT but that don't mean they directly used it, Frisk can also complete a neutral route without even using the save system (only before the omega flowey battle where using a save point is totally obligatory) so characters with the potential to use it but not using it it's totally possibly in Undertale, and unlike Frisk there are not proof the almagamates used the save system despite knowing and having acess to it. And the human souls being a "items" doesn't change something, they are still something all the monsters can use but not everyone showed that, the same with the save system the almagamates haved acess to it but it's not stated or showed that they actually used it, the only difference beetwen both is that the six human souls are something external meanwhile the save system is something internal but in the end they both are things that hypothetically can be used if someone have acess to them but not everyone actually used them (Not all the monsters used the human souls and the almagamates don't show to have used the save system)

To see a Save point, you need control over the timeline and the ability to see and use it in the first place. The only way that Lemon Bread could have 1:1 mimicked a Save system is by him having used it in the past. Saves, loads and resets can only be seen and used by those who have control over the timeline

As I said before, even if they have seen the save points because they haved acess that don't prove they actually used it. Unlike Frisk and Flowey/Asriel who actually have showed to use it.

You need to conceptually know the gun before you mimic them.

Yeah but that don't mean I need to actually have used the gun before.

Right now I think that if for some reason the ability to use save system gets added to the almagamate phisiology despite they actually using them is pure hypothetical, it should be noted in the profile that is totally unknown if they even use it in-character.