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Making that 2VS2 fr
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would be fun to see ngl


but anyways, this does bring up a good question of if characters who have been called "equipments, slaves, or tools" of others could qualify for the optional equipment or not

so far, pokemon (who are technically slaves), spirits (like beatrice mentioned above) have in fact been added. Aqua being chosen as a "weapon" of choice was a thing that was accepted in konosuba too so this could work. However, i wonder if this extends to say, Ayanokouji calling horikita his tool
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
would be fun to see ngl


but anyways, this does bring up a good question of if characters who have been called "equipments, slaves, or tools" of others could qualify for the optional equipment or not

so far, pokemon (who are technically slaves), spirits (like beatrice mentioned above) have in fact been added. Aqua being chosen as a "weapon" of choice was a thing that was accepted in konosuba too so this could work. However, i wonder if this extends to say, Ayanokouji calling horikita his tool
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If its relevant I did give Muzan the entire twelve kizuki as standard equipment lmao
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Muzan Kibutsuji

Muzan Kibutsuji (鬼舞きぶ辻つじ 無む惨ざん, Kibutsuji Muzan?) is the main antagonist of Demon Slayer: Kimetsu No Yaiba. He is the King of Demons, the first of his kind, as well as the progenitor of all other demons in existence. Muzan is also the leader of the Twelve Kizuki, an organization of the twelve...
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CastoriceTheFifth said:
If its relevant I did give Muzan the entire twelve kizuki as standard equipment lmao
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Muzan Kibutsuji

Muzan Kibutsuji (鬼舞きぶ辻つじ 無む惨ざん, Kibutsuji Muzan?) is the main antagonist of Demon Slayer: Kimetsu No Yaiba. He is the King of Demons, the first of his kind, as well as the progenitor of all other demons in existence. Muzan is also the leader of the Twelve Kizuki, an organization of the twelve...
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the day isnt that far when we see Tanza, Spica and the Emilia camp under Subaru's optional equipment section 😭
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
the day isnt that far when we see Tanza, Spica and the Emilia camp under Subaru's optional equipment section 😭
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Yeah nah they have to be summons in order for that to happen or bounded via something as their entire fighting shtick like with beatrice subaru being spirit knights or considered a literal tool like with Aqua
 
BoastJr said:
Additionally

I will put all of Isekai at Peace Universe as Miyama Kaito's Equipment
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Just saying
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「　」, also referred to as the Swirl of the Root or most commonly the Root, is a metaphysical "force" that exists beyond everything else in the entire Nasuverse, transcendent of reality, dualistic function, and all concepts. It stores and archives all possible information, and is both the origin...
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The root has the entire NASUVERSE as standard equipment
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Just saying
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Swirl of the Root

「　」, also referred to as the Swirl of the Root or most commonly the Root, is a metaphysical "force" that exists beyond everything else in the entire Nasuverse, transcendent of reality, dualistic function, and all concepts. It stores and archives all possible information, and is both the origin...
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The root has the entire NASUVERSE as standard equipment
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thats kinda silly ngl. you cant have an entire verse as standard equipment if its literally just you
 
Dark_Soul20189 said:
Welp, interesting to say the least... Also, I guess that means Kaito's "Equipment" will need to be expanded... (With quite literally all powerhouses in the series..)

I agree.
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Technically if you fight him

You will just summon Shiro, Kuro, Isis, Makina, Everyone in trinia and like... 17 Billion Gods

Its funny cuz its actually canon 😭
 
idk how I feel about this, he may have picked Aqua but its not exactly like the Beatrice situation since Subaru can summon her whenever and wherever due to their contract which quite literally bounds them together. Kazuma has no true control over where Aqua is or what shes doing. its like giving Ainz Ooal Gown anyone in Nazarick as optional equipment simply cause "they listen to what he says" or Deku having Eri as optional equipment in his pre-final war arc.

Personally disagree for now, since per our rules "This is not to be confused with Optional Equipment, which can encompass anything that the character has owned or made use of for an extended period of time, regardless of whether or not it's usually on their person". Aqua is her own person and Kazuma doesn't "own" her, rather he just brought her to the new world out of spite but the two are not bound at the hip nor can Kazuma like summon here wherever or whenever

also idk why Beatrice is listed as "optional equipment" it should be Can Create/Summon for Subaru, her being optional seems odd as well since like... he just summons her
 
Bruhtelho said:
idk how I feel about this, he may have picked Aqua but its not exactly like the Beatrice situation since Subaru can summon her whenever and wherever due to their contract which quite literally bounds them together. Kazuma has no true control over where Aqua is or what shes doing. its like giving Ainz Ooal Gown anyone in Nazarick as optional equipment simply cause "they listen to what he says" or Deku having Eri as optional equipment in his pre-final war arc.

Personally disagree for now, since per our rules "This is not to be confused with Optional Equipment, which can encompass anything that the character has owned or made use of for an extended period of time, regardless of whether or not it's usually on their person". Aqua is her own person and Kazuma doesn't "own" her, rather he just brought her to the new world out of spite but the two are not bound at the hip nor can Kazuma like summon here wherever or whenever

also idk why Beatrice is listed as "optional equipment" it should be Can Create/Summon for Subaru, her being optional seems odd as well since like... he just summons her
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Subaru can't "Summon" her, she is a physical entity that fights alongside him. The reason she is listed as optional equipment is because in the vollachian saga they got separated and all of the fights before their reunion happened without Beatrice being present. However, she is his contracted spirit and thus falls in the same category as Julius' spirits
 
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idk how I feel about this, he may have picked Aqua but its not exactly like the Beatrice situation since Subaru can summon her whenever and wherever due to their contract which quite literally bounds them together. Kazuma has no true control over where Aqua is or what shes doing. its like giving Ainz Ooal Gown anyone in Nazarick as optional equipment simply cause "they listen to what he says" or Deku having Eri as optional equipment in his pre-final war arc.
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He can't summon her. They get separated numerous times in different arcs and are unable to fight together unless reunited.

Idk anything about Ainz so I dont get the example.

The Deku and Eri example shouldn't because they teamed up together like only once (and also she isn't portrayed as a tool like the other ones listed below)

Also if we're going with MHA, we have an army of Nomus and Gigantomachia as optional equipment for Shigaraki and AFO
Standard Equipment: The hands made from his family members, and an artifact placed in his partially dismembered hand.

Aqua is his actual equipment in a literal sense and shes stuck with him until he beats the Demon Lord.

Bruhtelho said:
Personally disagree for now, since per our rules "This is not to be confused with Optional Equipment, which can encompass anything that the character has owned or made use of for an extended period of time, regardless of whether or not it's usually on their person". Aqua is her own person and Kazuma doesn't "own" her, rather he just brought her to the new world out of spite but the two are not bound at the hip nor can Kazuma like summon here wherever or whenever
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You don't need a summon. Shigaraki doesn't have a summoning for Gigantomachia. Aqua is his genuine item and shes stuck with him and can't go back to being a goddess
 
CastoriceTheFifth said:
Also if we're going with MHA, we have an army of Nomus and Gigantomachia as optional equipment for Shigaraki and AFO
Standard Equipment: The hands made from his family members, and an artifact placed in his partially dismembered hand.

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cause he quite literally just says smth and they come to him, they completely listen to everything he says and we've seen before he can bring to him with a mere word and Gigantomachia quite literally can't act without Shigaraki saying so.
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You don't need a summon. Shigaraki doesn't have a summoning for Gigantomachia. Aqua is his genuine item and shes stuck with him and can't go back to being a goddess
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shes stuck with him but not cause shes "owned" by him, its cause she doesn't have a choice if she wants to be a goddess again. shes completely her own person beyond that and imo doesn't constitute optional equipment.
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The Deku and Eri example shouldn't because they teamed up together like only once (and also she isn't portrayed as a tool like the other ones listed below)
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Aqua isn't portrayed as a tool either at like any point. she was forcibly brought to the new world by a system kazuma abused with a loop hole, she doesn't wanna be there at ALL at the start of the series literally crying in Kazuma's face and b*tching the entire time. they simply fight together as a team with Megumin and Darkness, its like listing Megumin and Darkness under "optional equipment" cause they're apart of his party, they're all separate people who do their own things.

i'll wait to see what others say but for now I do disagree with it.
 
Bruhtelho said:
cause he quite literally just says smth and they come to him, they completely listen to everything he says and we've seen before he can bring to him with a mere word and Gigantomachia quite literally can't act without Shigaraki saying so.
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So does this mean putting Gigantomachia in a versus match means he stands still completely stationary and doesn’t fight back? Is he not his own person? Not like he retaliated against his own “masters” before. Also he isn’t programmed to follow Shigaraki either, he just chose to follow him.

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shes stuck with him but not cause shes "owned" by him, its cause she doesn't have a choice if she wants to be a goddess again. shes completely her own person beyond that and imo doesn't constitute optional equipment.
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The context of this entire scene is him picking a “thing”/item in the literal sense

Also I don’t get the own person thingy. Gigantomacia and Beatrice are their own person with their own personality, judgment, and can act independently from each other. They are still considered optional equipment due to added context.

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Aqua isn't portrayed as a tool either at like any point. she was forcibly brought to the new world by a system kazuma abused with a loop hole, she doesn't wanna be there at ALL at the start of the series literally crying in Kazuma's face and b*tching the entire time. they simply fight together as a team with Megumin and Darkness, its like listing Megumin and Darkness under "optional equipment" cause they're apart of his party, they're all separate people who do their own things.
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Aqua from the beginning of her introduction is portrayed as his equipment and her being obligated to be his support item under an enforced system until they beat the Demon Lord.

Megumin and Darkness example doesn’t work. Those are like 2 entirely different contexts to what happened with Aqua. They are just normal team mates that joined his guild under their own terms. Aqua is forced as his support item under an enforced system to help him beat the Demon Lord.

(Also it’s weird to deny Kazuma from the support “thing” he chose)
 
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Also Kazuma has an entire key/stat dedicated to a temporary Aqua buff he gains from her anytime he asks. Which makes no sense unless shes optional
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