Small Uta Changes

[That_moron2]

Currently, Uta's profile lists her as having FTL reactions, for this feat, however she isn't merely reacting here, but actively combating the Straw Hats at this speed, so it should be FTL combat speed in Uta World. Uta is comparable to Luffy when both are children as evidenced by her consistently defeating him in games throughout their childhood. Luffy was extensively trained by Garp even at this age [chapter 432]. That would upgrade her speed physically as well.

A.P: Athletic Human level in the real world (Comparable to if not stronger than Luffy as a child, who can survive being place in harsh conditions by Garp)

Speed: Athletic Human

Lifting Strength: Athletic Human in the real world

Striking Strength: Athletic Human level in the real world (Comparable to if not stronger than Luffy as a child, who can survive being place in harsh conditions by Garp)

Durability: Atheletic Human level in the real world (Should be able to withstand her own strikes, and is comparable to Luffy as a child)

Weaknesses: The effects of the Uta Uta no Mi are quick, but not instant, in one instance, it took Uta nearly 6 seconds to put someone to sleep, although he became drowsy and unable to resist instantly

 

[Kachon123]

Looks good

 

[LaserPrecision]

Speed: Athletic Human combat speed, FTL reactions and perceptions in the Real World (Battled Issho using sleeping marines and pirates, pressing him)

This is a bit confusing to me. Would this not just be summons who are FTL? Why are her reactions FTL for summong characters with FTL combat speed? Did she react to someone charging directly at her?

 

[That_moron2]

This is a bit confusing to me. Would this not just be summons who are FTL? Why are her reactions FTL for summong characters with FTL combat speed? Did she react to someone charging directly at her?

She directly controls them through her thoughts

 

[LaserPrecision]

She directly controls them through her thoughts

Oh, that's kind of weird. Maybe FTL perception speed? If she only had FTL reactions, she couldn't make them reliably combat FTL characters. Only evade like one attack as stated on the reaction speed page. But if they're just full on fighting, the summons combat speed is clearly FTL. Tbh, she should just have Athletic Human level combat speed, and FTL combat speed when controlling her summons.

 

[That_moron2]

Oh, that's kind of weird. Maybe FTL perception speed? If she only had FTL reactions, she couldn't make them reliably combat FTL characters. Only evade like one attack as stated on the reaction speed page. But if they're just full on fighting, the summons combat speed is clearly FTL. Tbh, she should just have Athletic Human level combat speed, and FTL combat speed when controlling her summons.

Does Athletic Human physically, FTL perceptions, FTL with Body Puppetry in the Real World work?

 

[LaserPrecision]

Does Athletic Human physically, FTL perceptions, FTL with Body Puppetry in the Real World work?

I would do

"Athletic Human, FTL with Body Puppetry in the Real World."

Because that's not reaction speed. Reaction speed would be like her dodging an FTL attack, or reacting to one. Which she isn't. She's just summoning peeps who are FTL that she controls.

 

[That_moron2]

I would do

"Athletic Human, FTL with Body Puppetry in the Real World."

Because that's not reaction speed. Reaction speed would be like her dodging an FTL attack, or reacting to one. Which she isn't. She's just summoning peeps who are FTL that she controls.

She controls them with her thoughts, so she'd have to be able to perceive at that speed

 

[LaserPrecision]

She controls them with her thoughts, so she'd have to be able to perceive at that speed

Having FTL combat speed while controlling summons would imply she's fast enough to react to those speeds. The rating I suggested would imply that. It basically just means she only has FTL perception speed when controlling her FTL summons. But doesn't normally have perception speed that fast. But admittedly this is a VERY weird case, so speed is kind of an annoying tier here.

 

[That_moron2]

Having FTL combat speed while controlling summons would imply she's fast enough to react to those speeds. The rating I suggested would imply that. It basically just means she only has FTL perception speed when controlling her FTL summons. But doesn't normally have perception speed that fast. But admittedly this is a VERY weird case, so speed is kind of an annoying tier here.

Alright I'll do that

 

[LaserPrecision]

Alright I'll do that

This will help with a lot. Does Uta at any point in the real world react to someone trying to directly attack her?

 

[That_moron2]

This will help with a lot. Does Uta at any point in the real world react to someone trying to directly attack her?

Without using sleep people, I don't think so. I'm pretty sure Shanks outright blitzed her actually

 

[LaserPrecision]

Without using sleep people, I don't think so. I'm pretty sure Shanks outright blitzed her actually

Yeah, then she def doesn't have FTL perceptions or reactions normally. Only FTL combat speed through her summons. So the suggestion I gave should work. Athletic Human, FTL with Body Puppetry in Real World. And then a second key for her in Uta World or whatever would be good too. Like this

Athletic Human, FTL with Body Puppetry in Real World | FTL in Uta World (I dunno if putting with summons is necessary for this key too, but u could do that)

 

[That_moron2]

Yeah, then she def doesn't have FTL perceptions or reactions normally. Only FTL combat speed through her summons. So the suggestion I gave should work. Athletic Human, FTL with Body Puppetry in Real World. And then a second key for her in Uta World or whatever would be good too. Like this

Athletic Human, FTL with Body Puppetry in Real World | FTL in Uta World (I dunno if putting with summons is necessary for this key too, but u could do that)

Yeah a second key might be a good idea. Would be pretty easy to separate I think

 

[Kachon123]

No, it'd be FTL reactions.

 

[That_moron2]

No, it'd be FTL reactions.

I think just perceptions, she doesn't move at that speed, just thinks, and otherwise she doesn't seem to be that fast since Shanks could grab her hand and stop her knife before she realized he was even there

 

[Kachon123]

I think just perceptions, she doesn't move at that speed, just thinks, and otherwise she doesn't seem to be that fast since Shanks could grab her hand and stop her knife before she realized he was even there

Shanks can kill observation Haki and was shown faster than even KIzaru during the film.

It's both reactions and perceptions, as Uta still needs to make actions/short movements while controlling them them, which we see.

 

[LaserPrecision]

Shanks can kill observation Haki and was shown faster than even KIzaru during the film.

It's both reactions and perceptions, as Uta still needs to make actions/short movements while controlling them them, which we see.

It's only reactions if she's reacting to an attack directed at her. She can move her body at normal human speeds and still control the summons at FTL speed. And if we're going to argue she has to move her body as fast as the summons to control them, that just means she has FTL combat speed for being able to move her body to control her stuff.

 

[That_moron2]

Shanks can kill observation Haki

She doesn't have haki

and was shown faster than even KIzaru during the film.

Fair

It's both reactions and perceptions, as Uta still needs to make actions/short movements while controlling them them, which we see.

If she's making movements, then that could be full on combat speed.

 

[That_moron2]

Although I feel its possible Issho was holding back here, so as not to hurt his own soldiers, because unless she amps their speed, then it would mean random marines are keeping up with an Admiral's combat speeds

 

[Kachon123]

She doesn't have haki

The point is that he's able to sneak up on people who already had their natural senses heightened to the max (which is needed for Kenbunshoku to begin with).

If she's making movements, then that could be full on combat speed.

Read the description of Reactions please.

 

[Dalesean027]

Currently, Uta's profile lists her as having FTL reactions, for this feat, however she isn't merely reacting here, but actively combating the Straw Hats at this speed, so it should be FTL combat speed in Uta World. Uta is comparable to Luffy when both are children as evidenced by her consistently defeating him in games throughout their childhood. Luffy was extensively trained by Garp even at this age [chapter 432]. That would upgrade her speed physically as well. From 44:45 to 47:50 of the movie (some of it shown in this clip), she was able to operate sleeping marines at speeds fast enough to combat Issho.

A.P: Athletic Human level in the real world (Comparable to if not stronger than Luffy as a child, who can survive being place in harsh conditions by Garp)

Speed: Athletic Human combat speed, FTL with Body Puppetry in the Real World (Battled Issho using sleeping marines and pirates, pressing him)

Lifting Strength: Athletic Human in the real world

Striking Strength: Athletic Human level in the real world (Comparable to if not stronger than Luffy as a child, who can survive being place in harsh conditions by Garp)

Durability: Atheletic Human level in the real world (Should be able to withstand her own strikes, and is comparable to Luffy as a child)

I personally don't think this qualifies for either reactions or combat speeds at all

Looking at the video her own dancing speed is entirely disconnected from the speed of the summons, its not like they are even moving equal distance or anything either as her movements are way less than what the summons move as a whole. Like its a feat for the summon speed but it doesn't really seem to me at least by the clip provided that her dancing is making the summons perform even micromovements with each of her individual *****. Like she isn't dodging or weaving in reaction to anything and its certainly not combat since she isn't like directly swapping blows herself and shit


To me this just seems like Athletic Human, FTL with summons

 

[That_moron2]

I personally don't think this qualifies for either reactions or combat speeds at all

Looking at the video her own dancing speed is entirely disconnected from the speed of the summons, its not like they are even moving equal distance or anything either as her movements are way less than what the summons move as a whole. Like its a feat for the summon speed but it doesn't really seem to me at least by the clip provided that her dancing is making the summons perform even micromovements with each of her individual *****. Like she isn't dodging or weaving in reaction to anything and its certainly not combat since she isn't like directly swapping blows herself and shit


To me this just seems like Athletic Human, FTL with summons

I'm doubtful of FTL even with Body Puppetry outside of Uta World because its probable Issho was holding back since he wouldn't hurt his own and men and the idea that random marines were keeping up with him is ridiculous

 

[Dalesean027]

I'm doubtful of FTL even with Body Puppetry outside of Uta World because its probable Issho was holding back since he wouldn't hurt his own and men and the idea that random marines were keeping up with him is ridiculous

This seems like a reasonable train of thought to me as well

 

[That_moron2]

This seems like a reasonable train of thought to me as well

Removed the IRL FTL proposals from the OP, I wonder if this would affect any of her matches

 

[Antvasima]

I think that it seems best to give Uta unknown statistics outside of her devil fruit mindscape, as athletic One Piece world humans seem to be far stronger than in the real world in general.

 

[That_moron2]

Seems like he was holding back.
Also this is the only time in the movie we actually see someone fall asleep I think, and it takes her multiple notes. It could be noted that it takes her multiple notes to knock someone out

 

[That_moron2]

Timing it using this website, she starts singing at frame 8 and the guy actually passes out at frame 142 by my estimate
(142-8)/24 = 5.58 seconds of exposure to put someone to sleep

 

[That_moron2]

I think that it seems best to give Uta unknown statistics outside of her devil fruit mindscape, as athletic One Piece world humans seem to be far stronger than in the real world in general.

I do not see any reason to do this, we have pretty clear feats she'd scale to (being able to survive harsh conditions like jungles), that would be 10-A

 

[Antvasima]

Well, if she was athletically superior to Luffy when she was young, that heavily implies superhuman physicaly abilities as an adult.

 

[That_moron2]

Well, if she was athletically superior to Luffy when she was small, that heavily implies superhuman physicaly abilities as an adult.

I don't think she's extensively trained since then or anything, in fact she probably has trained less.

 

[Antvasima]

Even so, I think that considering how high we rate Nami and Usopp in comparison, it seems safest to give her unknown physical world statistics.

 

[That_moron2]

Timing it using this website, she starts singing at frame 8 and the guy actually passes out at frame 142 by my estimate
(142-8)/24 = 5.58 seconds of exposure to put someone to sleep

Updated the OP

 

[That_moron2]

This seems like a reasonable train of thought to me as well

Do you agree with the O.P in its current form?

 

[Dalesean027]

Do you agree with the O.P in its current form?

Yeah its fine

 

[That_moron2]

Yeah its fine

Am I good to apply this?

 

[That_moron2]

Changes applied, this can be closed