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Solar System Black Clover

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Hello Everyone Today I would like to discuss upgrading These Black Clover Characters, Mainly Dorothy ,Asta, Yuno ,Lucius , and Yami To

4-A-Multi-Solar System level - 3-A: Universe level First​

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First Lets See How Dorothy Would Scale To It in the first place
Grimoire Linked To The Soul
Mana Linked To Life Energy One
Mana Linked To Life Energy Two

Now Lets First Discuss Any MisConceptions About Glamour World
Dorothy Does Not Teleport people into glamour world She Creates it
Creates Glamour World
Again Stated

Okay Now Lets Explain Why It Should Be A Solar System-Universal sized real,
Lets Get It Passed Solar System As We Know Dorothy can create stars and a galaxy she can only create stuff that she knows Stuff She Knows Actual Objects
as well as her creating galaxy and stars Galaxy Stars In the background

Now These Stars Are Real Stars because she able to create a galaxy(galaxies are made from stars as she needs to know what these things are in order to create them)

Now Lets get to how this can be a universe Well when sally(one of the smartest characters)uses the kanji sekai
sekai can mean planet or Universe in this case it would make no sense to call it a planet as i already showed its has stars and galaxies in it Sekai Kanji

Now We All know the famous clip of yami cutting this space with DS well this attack not hax like i already explained he would scale to it plus he needed to amp himself with mana zone and he takes blow back from using the slash Him taking blow back This Proves he puts his own effort into the attack
Now this is a yami Pre Dante Attack as well as everyone such as asta yuno lucius and yami should far scale above this

In Conclusion, Dorothy Glamour World Minimum: Solar System Level +, Max - Universal

You Don't Have To Agree With The Uni Scaling Just The Solar System but Uni is still a option

AGREE:

NEUTRAL:

DISAGREE:
 
Gremmy after seeing Dorothy's feat:

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CloverDragon03 said:
Giga outlier, nuff said

(Also man at least fully commit to High 3-A with the infinite size statement, this 4-A proposal feels like some kind of attempted compromise that doesn't even work because 4-A is still an outlier)
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not necessarily a outlier if its her first feat as a character
 
Orletoes said:
not necessarily a outlier if its her first feat as a character
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It is like, so self-evidently an outlier. The characters at this time are weaker than those who had people sweating over destroying countries and only Lucifero can maybe destroy the planet. It makes no sense then for a character weaker than them to be 4-A or god forbid High 3-A

These exact same arguments have also been used by other users and rejected before
 
Orletoes said:
not necessarily a outlier if its her first feat as a character
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Reinhard Van Astrea's first feat in the series was getting outran by a normal human, after which he consistently showed FTL feats and went and came back from the moon in minutes

Outlier FRA
 
CloverDragon03 said:
Giga outlier, nuff said

(Also man at least fully commit to High 3-A with the infinite size statement, this 4-A proposal feels like some kind of attempted compromise that doesn't even work because 4-A is still an outlier)
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Wait, why is this an outlier though? Because stronger characters don't show DC feats of that magnitude? If so then that's false because Lucifero and Morris literally showcase this level of DC by destroying the glamour world itself, and you can even argue Lucifero absorbing the tree of quilpoth is a comparable DC feat to it. Also stronger characters don't always need to show DC feats for it to scale to AP, this is an established standard for literally every verse here lmao
 
CloverDragon03 said:
It is like, so self-evidently an outlier. The characters at this time are weaker than those who had people sweating over destroying countries and only Lucifero can maybe destroy the planet. It makes no sense then for a character weaker than them to be 4-A or god forbid High 3-A

These exact same arguments have also been used by other users and rejected before
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This honestly isn’t a good counter argument at all, as the planet is protected by mana barriers and shi, so if this were to get accepted, mana barriers would simply have that level of durability, “other characters cant destroy something with this durability so it is an outlier even though the ability in question is weaker “ also I do think that it is possible to argue large size for the tree of qlipoth (butchered the name) as it has a size comparison to the underworld. And if so, we would have 3 feats of destroying something universal in size, I might make a crt for underworld being an actual different universe
 
CloverDragon03 said:
It is like, so self-evidently an outlier. The characters at this time are weaker than those who had people sweating over destroying countries and only Lucifero can maybe destroy the planet. It makes no sense then for a character weaker than them to be 4-A or god forbid High 3-A

These exact same arguments have also been used by other users and rejected before
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For The Countries Part no actual person was sweating over the fact that they can destroy countries you do forget that people live on these places right? no actual main villains were except maybe the dark triad/devils trying to destroy the actual black clover world even that is a lie because lucius want to take over the worlds magic to create a world of peace as well as she created the world more times after this

As well for lucifero I could provided evidence of him not only being able to destroy the planet if you just look at the narrative consistency
but there would be no point you wont believe it anyway smh
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
Reinhard Van Astrea's first feat in the series was getting outran by a normal human, after which he consistently showed FTL feats and went and came back from the moon in minutes

Outlier FRA
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ok then after the first time she created it she created it more times after this
against lucifero against morris with noelle against yami
 
I am not really interested in a tier upgrade rn tbh,as abilities are kinda mid, so I will make a CRT for tier in a bit
 
There may not be an outlier for Dorothy, whose strength has not been shown among the captains until now, since it was not known at what level her strength was at first, this was reflected in the profile and the strength was measured only with assumptions, for example, compared with captains. As for Yami, we can deduce that his technique is even stronger than him, as the name suggests, his technique is a dimension cutter. At least in 3D, where Dorothy's cuts through the pocket reality dimension. So that this is not an outlier, we can only take the technique in 3D. We don't have to scale Yami to that, as he already carries out the attack through his technique.
 
And those who can save from yami's attack should be scaled on top of the technique, but I don't know how many times yami used this technique and against whom.
 
CloverDragon03 said:
Incorrect. Characters even stronger than Dorothy have capped at country to planetary at best. None of the OP's explanations actually address this. It's an outlier. Full stop
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Dorothy's power before she formed the pocket reality dimension was unknowable. She didn't have a single feat.
 
CloverDragon03 said:
Incorrect. Characters even stronger than Dorothy have capped at country to planetary at best. None of the OP's explanations actually address this. It's an outlier. Full stop
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Your reasoning for it being “country “ or planetary is flawed to begin with. Not only DC≠AP. The shi they can’t destroy scales higher than Dorthy in the first place
 
LuciScaler said:
Dorothy's power before she formed the pocket reality dimension was unknowable. She didn't have a single feat.
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I'm talking about characters stronger than Dorothy. You can't just always scale everyone above the highest thing at all times without considering the story itself, otherwise you get arbitrarily inflated results for the sake of making a verse as strong as possible with little regard for accuracy
 
I'll close this due to it being strongly rejected.
 
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