- 22,043
- 18,127
Gouketsu
The main problem is perspective. If you're measuring from the centre of a ring that's 1 km thick and 30 km across (it's not that big, but I don't care enough to remember all the individual values), you need to account for the fact that the back will look much smaller than the front due to perspective. It's much worse here since we're seeing it from a downward angle. Also, they're each measured diagonally, which means they all have problems with perspective compared to what we'd see if it were measured horizontally.If we use angle-sizing, the radius (I've made sure to account for the different sizes of the front and back) is about 19062 metres, which is nearly half of the previous calculation. But that takes me to another problem.
The clouds here are centred on the buildings, so even with a FOV of 180 degrees it's not possible for the distance to be this large. In fact, we visibly see that this doesn't extend beyond the horizon from ground level, so the distance would be under 5 kilometres. I think the problem with the size is that we're assuming the clouds in the panel retain the same thickness, as if spreading the substance of the cloud over a much larger area wouldn't change its thickness.
Even if this calculation is still correct, claiming that Gouketsu's feat was performed with a singular hit is based on some erroneous logic. The sound effects vary from panel to panel based on their distance and location, and placing SFX in descending order is really just a trope. Also, the clouds are in concentric patterns, which wouldn't logically happen if this were one or multiple clouds hit by a single blow; you'd either get one ring, or a ring with multiple clouds blown away in different directions around it.
On another note, cloud calculations were revised a while ago, so this feat will have to be halved even if it's still accepted.
What do I recommend doing here if my logic is accepted? Just dump the calculation entirely. It's not going to be very high (clouds like this are only 500 tons), and saves us a lot of weird scaling and possibly ratings. We can just scale Gouketsu above Carnage, DS and Bakuzan. It's also good enough for a supporting feat since the area of a cloud would be nothing compared to the area of the blast wave itself.
Earthquake Formulas
I've always been iffy on using the Earthquake formula for these because it's a very large shockwave. You can use the power of Earthquakes created by meteors and nuclear weapons to determine their yield, but that's based directly on the intensity of the Earthquake it creates, not the amount of damage it causes on the surface. But then they could be entirely comparable (I don't really think so, because shockwaves typically flatten buildings), so I'm not too sure.I'd like some discussion here because multiple members, including Therefir, find this extremely precarious.
Last edited:
