Some Questions

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

1- Y character can destroy X character's complete body, mind & soul. But X character can regenerate from it. So Mid-Godly Regen.
If Y character's attacks were showed that they can even erase his enemies' names in previous chapters, should be Y character's regeneration up to High-Godly?

2- if a character is FTL, can his attack speed be written as FTL? (This character has both FTL travel & FTL attack speed feats)

3- what is the name of ability to destroy souls?

4- a character is soul and it's stated that no physical attacks work on them, is this invulnerability?

5- a character can reach their opponent location even without knowing where is their enemy's location. What is this ability?

6- a character can reach their opponent no matter how far they are. What would be their speed? Veriable?

 

[Wikisource]

1- Y character can destroy X character's complete body, mind & soul. But X character can regenerate from it. So Mid-Godly Regen.
If Y character's attacks were showed that they can even erase his enemies' names in previous chapters, should be Y character's regeneration up to High-Godly?

If the "name" here is a fundalmental aspect, so yeah.

2- if a character is FTL, can his attack speed be written as FTL? (This character has both FTL travel & FTL attack speed feats)

Yeah.

3- what is the name of ability to destroy souls?

Soul Destruction (Actually is Soul Manipulation but only can destroy soul)

4- a character is soul and it's stated that no physical attacks work on them, is this invulnerability?

No, a soul being doesn't have a physical body so a physical atk doesn't work on him. In other words, that just a side effect of the fact that he doesn't have a physical body.

5- a character can reach their opponent location even without knowing where is their enemy's location. What is this ability?

Idk.

6- a character can reach their opponent no matter how far they are. What would be their speed? Veriable?

Depends on the distance between them.

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

If the "name" here is a fundalmental aspect, so

The name definitely refers to a non-physical aspect

Soul Destruction (Actually is Soul Manipulation but only can destroy soul)

Can you link the ability?

Depends on the distance between them.

It's a statement. The user of this power can travel any distances that his enemy is located. I think it's veriable.

 

[Wikisource]

The name definitely refers to a non-physical aspect

It should be metaphysical aspects like concepts or information, etc... Aspects like soul or mind in general (spiritual aspects) are also counted as non-physical aspects.

Can you link the ability?

It's Soul Manipulation but is limited to only being able to destroy souls. I think Yogiri is a good e.g for this.

It's a statement. The user of this power can travel any distances that his enemy is located. I think it's veriable.

Yea, in that case, it's quite hard...

 

[Digital_Franz]

1- Y character can destroy X character's complete body, mind & soul. But X character can regenerate from it. So Mid-Godly Regen.
If Y character's attacks were showed that they can even erase his enemies' names in previous chapters, should be Y character's regeneration up to High-Godly?

Yes if their name is a metaphysical aspect more fundamental even than the soul.

5- a character can reach their opponent location even without knowing where is their enemy's location. What is this ability?

More explanation is needed. He may have placed a seal on his opponent like Minato does or he may just sense his opponent and teleport to their position.

6- a character can reach their opponent no matter how far they are. What would be their speed? Veriable?

It could just be teleportation, nothing says it's a speed feat.

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

It should be metaphysical aspects like concepts or information, etc... Aspects like soul or mind in general (spiritual aspects) are also counted as non-physical aspects.

To his enemies the name is truth, more than those forms they take, it is said the name of xogaras (his enemies) models even their form. Like heirs to a family they model themselves after the meaning of the name. I have more context even.

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

More explanation is needed. He may have placed a seal on his opponent like Minato does or he may just sense his opponent and teleport to their position.

No it's said that this character doesn't know the opponent's location even in advance

It could just be teleportation, nothing says it's a speed feat.

No the character acrossed a country in a moment to reach his opponent with his speed

 

[Digital_Franz]

No it's said that this character doesn't know the opponent's location even in advance

Nothing then.

No the character acrossed a country in a moment to reach his opponent with his speed

Unknown then.

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

Unknown then.

Isn't Veriable a good choice?

 

[Digital_Franz]

Isn't Veriable a good choice?

No. Varies from ?? to ??. It's unknown.

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

No. Varies from ?? to ??. It's unknown.

iirc some profiles had "Veriable" things like lifting strength or speed. Anyway It should be stated as Unknown in his profile?

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

1- Y character can destroy X character's complete body, mind & soul. But X character can regenerate from it. So Mid-Godly Regen.
If Y character's attacks were showed that they can even erase his enemies' names in previous chapters, should be Y character's regeneration up to High-Godly?

No, unless it involves erasing the character from history itself in that sense.

2- if a character is FTL, can his attack speed be written as FTL? (This character has both FTL travel & FTL attack speed feats)

So he only has attack and travel speed at ftl? That means both need to be written separately.
Example:

Hypersonic, FTL attack and travel speed

3- what is the name of ability to destroy souls?

Soul Manipulation. As far as I am aware, we do not have a separate ability for destruction specifically. The best you can do is specify its working accordingly as destruction of the soul in its description.

4- a character is soul and it's stated that no physical attacks work on them, is this invulnerability?

No, just Abstract Existence on Souls.

5- a character can reach their opponent location even without knowing where is their enemy's location. What is this ability?

Assuming he is doing it via teleportation, an enhanced form of teleportation, and perhaps homing.
You can combine both abilities like this:

Homing Teleportation - link homing to Homing Attack and Teleportation to teleportation page

6- a character can reach their opponent no matter how far they are. What would be their speed? Veriable?

Is it confirmed to be via speed or is it a teleportation type ability? If its the latter, then it is not speed, otherwise, we can take it off from his highest feat, given it is unknown if they take the same amount of time to cover larger distances too. Something like:

At least Relativistic, possibly Higher

 

[Digital_Franz]

iirc some profiles had "Veriable" things like lifting strength or speed.

This is when their stats vary depending on certain conditions. They have explanations for this. Here the speed is just unknown, it doesn't vary.

Anyway It should be stated as Unknown in his profile?

Yes. If he has a calculated feat, you can specify in its justification that he is at least faster than that speed.

 

[Wikisource]

To his enemies the name is truth, more than those forms they take, it is said the name of xogaras (his enemies) models even their form. Like heirs to a family they model themselves after the meaning of the name. I have more context even.

Quite vague, although it implies the concept but is not clear, I think "at least Mid-Godly" would be fine.

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

No, unless it involves erasing the character from history itself in that sense.

Erasing their name is erasing their truth

Soul Manipulation. As far as I am aware, we do not have a separate ability for destruction specifically. The best you can do is specify its working accordingly as destruction of the soul in its description.

What should be written in profile?

Assuming he is doing it via teleportation, an enhanced form of teleportation, and perhaps homing.
You can combine both abilities like this:

No that is his speed

Is it confirmed to be via speed or is it a teleportation type ability? If its the latter, then it is not speed, otherwise, we can take it off from his highest feat, given it is unknown if they take the same amount of time to cover larger distances too. Something like:

The character already has a calculated speed in base form. But in non-base he can reach his opponent location no matter how far they are. The speed can't be calculated because his opponent's location can be different

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

This is when their stats vary depending on certain conditions. They have explanations for this. Here the speed is just unknown, it doesn't vary.

The opponent's location can be different that's why im saying this

It's like minato but has two differences:
1- it's not Teleportation
2- you don't need to mark anyone

Minato can teleport himself anywhere that his mark is located, but this character doesn't need any marking and goes to different locations just with his speed

 

[Digital_Franz]

The opponent's location can be different that's why im saying this

It's like minato but has two differences:
1- it's not Teleportation
2- you don't need to mark anyone

Minato can teleport himself anywhere that his mark is located, but this character doesn't need any marking and goes to different locations just with his speed

Well let's keep it simple. The location of your opponent may be different, it doesn't mean anything. His speed is just unknown, it can be FTL, MFTL+, Infinite, Immeasurable.

To use Varies you need two values, for example Varies from FTL to FTL+, something you don't have here. Varies rating is not applicable here, as simple as that.

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

Well let's keep it simple. The location of your opponent may be different, it doesn't mean anything. His speed is just unknown, it can be FTL, MFTL+, Infinite, Immeasurable.

To use Varies you need two values, for example Varies from FTL to FTL+, something you don't have here. Varies rating is not applicable here, as simple as that.

So it can be like:

Varies from BlaBla to Unknown

Or

BlaBla, Possibly Far Higher or Higher with non-base

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Erasing their name is erasing their truth

That isnt reaIIy heIpfuI when truth can be IiteraIIy anything, a fundamentaI aspect or a non fundamentaI aspect

What should be written in profile?

As I said, the best you can do is specify its working accordingly as destruction of the soul in its description in their profiIes.

No that is his speed

Then it can just be homing I guess. Tho in the description on the profiIe, you wiII have to specify that it is not, strictIy speaking, an attack, but rather just a tracking abiIity.

The character already has a calculated speed in base form. But in non-base he can reach his opponent location no matter how far they are. The speed can't be calculated because his opponent's location can be different

It couId be caIcuIated based on the highest distance he has crossed to reach his opponent, however, its a probIem if we have no means to indicate how much time he took to do it.

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

That isnt reaIIy heIpfuI when truth can be IiteraIIy anything, a fundamentaI aspect or a non fundamentaI aspect

Although i have enough contexts but what's your opinion about this. The Xogaras (enemies) has abstract existance (type 1) by this feat and its accepted on the wiki

Abstract Existence is the ability to embody an abstraction, such as a concept, thought, or information, and being immortal thanks to it. This power has a variety of uses, ranging from a high degree of control over the abstraction and its manifestations, the aforementioned immortality, or even being unaffected by abilities that can't target the abstraction.

Embodying a concept is not enough to obtain this ability, an abstract needs feats or reliable statements proving that the concept they represent grants them Immortality/Regeneration or control over the abstraction.

Beware that the abstract nature of different characters can stem from different sources (rumors, concepts, possibilities,...), as such, being able to affect a subtype of a category does not mean a character can affect all types of abstraction.

Type 1: Exists purely as an abstraction. These characters lack a true physical form, and affecting them requires the ability to affect directly the abstraction itself, because eventual physical manifestations are merely avatars.

Also you need to Concept manip (at least type 2 for dealing with the weakest ones) to deal with them (accepted in wiki):

Conceptual Manipulation is the ability to manipulate, create, and/or destroy abstract concepts. This ability has a variety of applications, ranging from not combat-applicable to incredibly dominating. Conceptual Manipulation involves the manipulation of concepts, and not the universe directly. However, through this power, one can change the universe's fundamental principles on the highest level.

Each concept is linked with its respective "object". In this way, altering the concept will change every object linked to it in the same way the concept itself was changed.

• Concept Destruction: The ability to destroy or remove a concept. By using the ability concepts are removed from reality. This can be wide-spread or very targeted, either erasing the concept of an overarching fundamental principle, such as space, or an individual. When destroyed at this level, nothing can be restored without using a similarly powerful conceptual creation. Conventional regeneration or resurrection, no matter how powerful, would prove impossible as the very abstract concept of the character would not exist.

2. Dependent Concepts: Such concepts are abstract and govern all reality within their area of influence. These concepts shape everything, and changing them would either require the alteration of every object of the concept or, if manipulated directly, change all objects of the concept alongside the concept itself. These concepts, however, exist simultaneously with and are bound by the object of the concept. In this way, an abstract dependent concept can be destroyed by destroying all objects of the concept, restored by re-making an object of a previously existent concept, or changed by changing all objects of the concept across reality. This, however, does not qualify for this form of conceptual manipulation, and is rather treated as a by-product of another action akin to a "domino effect". This type of conceptual manipulation can only be obtained if the abstract concept itself is changed directly, and not by indirect methods. For example, destroying humanity and thus "ending the concept of humanity" would not qualify, while directly "ending the concept of humanity" and thus destroying humanity would qualify.

Character X is capable of erasing Xogaras' names. To erase Their name is to change the world, the value of everything

As I said, the best you can do is specify its working accordingly as destruction of the soul in its description in their profiIes.

Is this OK?
Soul Manipulation (Destruction)

Then it can just be homing I guess. Tho in the description on the profiIe, you wiII have to specify that it is not, strictIy speaking, an attack, but rather just a tracking abiIity.

Like This?
Homing Speed

It couId be caIcuIated based on the highest distance he has crossed to reach his opponent, however, its a probIem if we have no means to indicate how much time he took to do it.

The Scan:

And in the manga and anime it just showed he is traveling with a first person look, he just travelled a country in a moment. I'll try to find exact feats. If i didn't find any good things, would send them for you

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

Bump

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Character X is capable of erasing Xogaras' names. To erase Their name is to change the world, the value of everything

So they are Iike erasing their concept? That does sound Iike HGR, yes.

Is this OK?
Soul Manipulation (Destruction)

Yeah. or you can aIso just write SouI Destruction and Iink the souI manip page to it.

Like This?
Homing Speed

I guess? Maybe write it as Tracking instead, that wouId be a better word, and Iink that to the homing page.

Although i have enough contexts but what's your opinion about this. The Xogaras (enemies) has abstract existance (type 1) by this feat and its accepted on the wiki



Also you need to Concept manip (at least type 2 for dealing with the weakest ones) to deal with them (accepted in wiki):




Character X is capable of erasing Xogaras' names. To erase Their name is to change the world, the value of everything

Is this OK?
Soul Manipulation (Destruction)

Like This?
Homing Speed

The Scan:

And in the manga and anime it just showed he is traveling with a first person look, he just travelled a country in a moment. I'll try to find exact feats. If i didn't find any good things, would send them for you

No matter how far wouId scaIe to the character;s verse cosmoIogy, I suppose. If the verse is 2-A, I guess 2-A, if its 3-A, then 3-A.
As for the speed vaIue, if there are muItipIe instances of the character traveIIing to different pIaces in a moment, you can take that as the base vaIue, and take its mathemticaI vaIue, Iike, 0.1sec or 1sec as a Iow baII, I suppose. Tho as aIways, its better to ask CaIcuIation members regarding this stuff since they are the masters of this fieId.
I think you couId get some high traveI speed with that.

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

So they are Iike erasing their concept? That does sound Iike HGR, yes.

Thank you. The wiki accepted their type 1 abstract existance for enemies and concept manip type 2 for the character X. I have enough contexts too, so maybe this is acceptable

Yeah. or you can aIso just write SouI Destruction and Iink the souI manip page to it.

Soul Destruction

I guess? Maybe write it as Tracking instead, that wouId be a better word, and Iink that to the homing page.

Like this?

Tracking

No matter how far wouId scaIe to the character;s verse cosmoIogy, I suppose. If the verse is 2-A, I guess 2-A, if its 3-A, then 3-A.
As for the speed vaIue, if there are muItipIe instances of the character traveIIing to different pIaces in a moment, you can take that as the base vaIue, and take its mathemticaI vaIue, Iike, 0.1sec or 1sec as a Iow baII, I suppose. Tho as aIways, its better to ask CaIcuIation members regarding this stuff since they are the masters of this fieId.
I think you couId get some high traveI speed with that.

The Character only one time used this ability and on that time his speed was very vague. But i'll show that to calc team

Btw, has this ability any names or still doesn't exist?

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Thank you. The wiki accepted their type 1 abstract existance for enemies and concept manip type 2 for the character X. I have enough contexts too, so maybe this is acceptable

AIright

Soul Destruction

Yep

Like this?

Tracking

ExactIy.

The Character only one time used this ability and on that time his speed was very vague. But i'll show that to calc team

Btw, has this ability any names or still doesn't exist?

The abiIity itseIf? other than range and tracking, I dont remember reading any. There may be some cIose to it, but uItimateIy different in some aspects.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

1- Y character can destroy X character's complete body, mind & soul. But X character can regenerate from it. So Mid-Godly Regen.
If Y character's attacks were showed that they can even erase his enemies' names in previous chapters, should be Y character's regeneration up to High-Godly?

2- if a character is FTL, can his attack speed be written as FTL? (This character has both FTL travel & FTL attack speed feats)

3- what is the name of ability to destroy souls?

4- a character is soul and it's stated that no physical attacks work on them, is this invulnerability?

5- a character can reach their opponent location even without knowing where is their enemy's location. What is this ability?

6- a character can reach their opponent no matter how far they are. What would be their speed? Veriable?

1 - needs elaboration on names
2 - Yes
3 - If done via Hax. Soul destruction. Else NPI
4 - Incorporeality as his true form is being completely incorporeal and without physical form to be attacked physically
5 - Homing Attack.
6 - scale based on the fastest speed it can achieve while chasing including enemy distances if interdimensional etc

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

AIright

Yep

ExactIy.

The abiIity itseIf? other than range and tracking, I dont remember reading any. There may be some cIose to it, but uItimateIy different in some aspects.

Thanks

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

needs elaboration on names

Btw do you think that the explanations in the upper comments are good?
I have context for them

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

Btw do you think that the explanations in the upper comments are good?
I have context for them

idk you said Character Y can destroy it and Character Y gets regen feat?
at best it grants Destruction of names which isn't really concept hax or anything just flat out destruction that goes to that level aka EE

To his enemies the name is truth, more than those forms they take, it is said the name of xogaras (his enemies) models even their form. Like heirs to a family they model themselves after the meaning of the name. I have more context even.

Now if you are asking someone regenerated from the name being erased then maybe
atm the concept does seem to affect them but in a near anti-realist way (Type 3 but they are not dependent on it. the concept simply affects them in their way in terms of their forms and such).

Can you provide more context? it seems notable

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

Now if you are asking someone regenerated from the name being erased then maybe
atm the concept does seem to affect them but in a near anti-realist way (Type 3 but they are not dependent on it. the concept simply affects them in their way in terms of their forms and such).

Can you provide more context? it seems notable

It's accepted in this wiki that its abstract existance type 1:

Abstract Existence is the ability to embody an abstraction, such as a concept, thought, or information, and being immortal thanks to it. This power has a variety of uses, ranging from a high degree of control over the abstraction and its manifestations, the aforementioned immortality, or even being unaffected by abilities that can't target the abstraction.

Embodying a concept is not enough to obtain this ability, an abstract needs feats or reliable statements proving that the concept they represent grants them Immortality/Regeneration or control over the abstraction.

Beware that the abstract nature of different characters can stem from different sources (rumors, concepts, possibilities,...), as such, being able to affect a subtype of a category does not mean a character can affect all types of abstraction.

Type 1: Exists purely as an abstraction. These characters lack a true physical form, and affecting them requires the ability to affect directly the abstraction itself, because eventual physical manifestations are merely avatars.

Also you need to Concept manip (at least type 2 for dealing with the weakest ones) to deal with them (accepted in wiki):

Conceptual Manipulation is the ability to manipulate, create, and/or destroy abstract concepts. This ability has a variety of applications, ranging from not combat-applicable to incredibly dominating. Conceptual Manipulation involves the manipulation of concepts, and not the universe directly. However, through this power, one can change the universe's fundamental principles on the highest level.

Each concept is linked with its respective "object". In this way, altering the concept will change every object linked to it in the same way the concept itself was changed.

Concept Destruction: The ability to destroy or remove a concept. By using the ability concepts are removed from reality. This can be wide-spread or very targeted, either erasing the concept of an overarching fundamental principle, such as space, or an individual. When destroyed at this level, nothing can be restored without using a similarly powerful conceptual creation. Conventional regeneration or resurrection, no matter how powerful, would prove impossible as the very abstract concept of the character would not exist.

2. Dependent Concepts: Such concepts are abstract and govern all reality within their area of influence. These concepts shape everything, and changing them would either require the alteration of every object of the concept or, if manipulated directly, change all objects of the concept alongside the concept itself. These concepts, however, exist simultaneously with and are bound by the object of the concept. In this way, an abstract dependent concept can be destroyed by destroying all objects of the concept, restored by re-making an object of a previously existent concept, or changed by changing all objects of the concept across reality. This, however, does not qualify for this form of conceptual manipulation, and is rather treated as a by-product of another action akin to a "domino effect". This type of conceptual manipulation can only be obtained if the abstract concept itself is changed directly, and not by indirect methods. For example, destroying humanity and thus "ending the concept of humanity" would not qualify, while directly "ending the concept of humanity" and thus destroying humanity would qualify.

Character X is capable of erasing Xogaras' names. To erase Their name is to change the world, the value of everything

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

It's accepted in this wiki that its abstract existance type 1:


Also you need to Concept manip (at least type 2 for dealing with the weakest ones) to deal with them (accepted in wiki):



Character X is capable of erasing Xogaras' names. To erase Their name is to change the world, the value of everything

Then erasing it is concept destruction or EE.
Regenerating after their name is erased (by their own means or powers or nature) would be high godly and existence erasure would be conceptual erasure

 

[Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe]

Then erasing it is concept destruction or EE.
Regenerating after their name is erased (by their own means or powers or nature) would be high godly and existence erasure would be conceptual erasure

Very Thank You