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Son Goku vs Grovyle
- Thread starter The_real_cal_howard
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.... Wouldn't Grovyle AP stomp ? If Dialga keeps the timeline in contact with heartbeat as the original did, even if slightly weaker, wouldn't make Grovyle stomp this match ?
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Idk.
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Bump
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This seems like a stomp. I don't see how Jiren can beat him with all of those abilities.
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Is UI Goku fairer due to well...UI? Also, can abilities make a match a stomp? It's not like it's hax.
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Grovyle reduces Jiren's stats while increasing his own, as well as reflecting Jiren's attacks and becoming even stronger due to Reactive Power Level, and then he one-shots.
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Most of his abilities kinda bad. Maybe he would win but hax exactly not helpful.
>He had immeasurable speed.
Cal man. Please.
>He had immeasurable speed.
Cal man. Please.
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>Reactive Power Level.
Minor buff and only when dead nearly.
Minor buff and only when dead nearly.
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^This, though I wouldn't necessarily say a minor buff.TheJ-ManRequiem said:
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Not all pokemon are infernape.
(Man infernape had broken blaze. Not even blaze from Blaziken had even half that).
(Man infernape had broken blaze. Not even blaze from Blaziken had even half that).
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Infernape's Blaze was freakin' Legendary Super Saiyan ovo.
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Would the stat stuff and attack reflection still work?
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Yeah
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Then I think I'm still voting Grovyle due to that.
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>Via Pursuit.
Hmm.
Hmm.
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Remember. This is MD. Not classic.
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Step 1: Leer six times.
Step 2: Get bodied.
Step 3: Overgrow activated.
Step 4: Leaf Blade and hope for a crit.
Step 5: Profit.
Step 2: Get bodied.
Step 3: Overgrow activated.
Step 4: Leaf Blade and hope for a crit.
Step 5: Profit.
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Well aware.
And ya lucky.
Gonna or was gonna call ya out but friend just messaged me >new berserk out.
Which vastly takes precedence over gecco vs ayy lmao_4D edition.
And ya lucky.
Gonna or was gonna call ya out but friend just messaged me >new berserk out.
Which vastly takes precedence over gecco vs ayy lmao_4D edition.
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New Berserk?! I'm psyched!
Nothing takes precedence over time gecko ovo
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Offnote man but gecco man only deflects partial not all.
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NeoZex399 said:
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He either AP stomps or.
Jiren AP stomps.
Grovyle either borderline 2-C or baseline. No in-between.
Jiren AP stomps.
Grovyle either borderline 2-C or baseline. No in-between.
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He's the former... I don't want it to be an AP stomp though. ;_;
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No I mean.
Both are correct.
Unless I missed something.
Honestly whatever lake pokemon would be.
Both are correct.
Unless I missed something.
Honestly whatever lake pokemon would be.
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I mean, the Lake Trio are 2-B. They're just not 2-B in this incarnation, hopefully.
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I mean, powerful glares are still powerful.
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@J-Man. It was under my assumption that Primal Dialga is effed up timeline level with his heartbeat, because it is still Dialga, just massively weakened, as he was offed by timeline overwriting until Arceus went all lolnope.
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Not including other Canon.
He would be barely above baseline via primal.
He would be barely above baseline via primal.
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Then UIO Goku instead, as that's what I wanted to do anyway.
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Mismatch?
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Use the ropes instead.
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Fine. This thread is now First UI Goku versus Grovyle. With Grovyle assumed to be barely above baseline.
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Almost nothing Grovy has can actually hit Goku
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Kep, please tell me you're not under the belief of UI being impossible to hit without hax...
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I can assure you I'm not, boi.
But that UI is almost guaranteed to avoid all physical hits
But that UI is almost guaranteed to avoid all physical hits
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Or the fact that UI's dodging makes Grovyle stronger, plus Absorb not allowing for a dodge.
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