I mean Toons also resist Pain manip and Bugs has many Stamina feats of taking an extreme amount of punishment.
While Sonic does have good experience, Bugs has been tooning around and fighting and outsmarting foes for over 80 years which is much more experience than Sonic.
that is not more experienced then what Sonic did, Sonic in 1 day of fighting became the best in the world in sword fight, even overtrowing legendary knights, even while time traveled to the pressent and fighting against a machine that had years of research over all of his patters and movements he still beat it while mocking it, considering a master martial artist's movements such as knuckles as "simple to read", defeating in 30 seconds Ultimate Emerl, who had all the moves and skill of himself and all of his friends combined and even with Eggman's Super Genius intelect and all of his research over years and years of Sonic's movement, with all of his time, reality altering and all of his machines, Sonic still beat his over 227,000 times while also mocking him most of the time
That's cool and all but we were just comparing raw combat experience not their skill generally. I can go over Bugs feats later if needed although I don't think skill is that big of a factor here due to the debate mostly being around their hax's.
meh, fair enough
This hasn't been addressed yet.
if it gives another tier, then it can be restricted
I mean even if Sonic speed amps and plows through Bugs, he just regens and continues whatever he was trying to do. Bug's only needs to get a few words out to SI Sonic or to trap sonic in a musical sequence.
He also just needs a single word to paralyze Sonic too. He just needs to say "stop".
hax him with what exactly?
Perception Manipulation. Convince him he's someone else. Get him to abandon the fight. It's Bugs's starting move anyways.
I think Bugs' paralysis is different. He can stop Sonic just by holding up a stop sign
Sonic also resists Perception manip in Super due to resisting Cyber Corrution
But that's still paralysis, just a comical toon-based variant.
Sonic resists Perception Manip due to his resistance to Cyber Corruption.
what is the difference?
Seems Final Horizon made this a stomp match. There isn't anything Bugs can reasonably do given the extra resistances.
Is all Paralysis the same though?
Might need to make another match with Low 2-C Base Sonic then
Would probably have the same result tbh. I don't see anything that changes.
I thought the resistances to Paralysis and Perception Manipulation were only for Super Sonic? Also Bugs still has regeneration and Sonic doesn't immediately open fights with Chaos Control
Nah, they're for base Sonic. Even then, I don't think that Bugs has a feasible way of beating Sonic considering he's a whole tier below him so he can't physically attack him and he currently resists all of his hax unless we want to keep Low 1-C Bugs restricted.
considering that resistance came that alter the wincon's bugs has, pretty sure we would need a recount aconting for those
Yeah, since it worked on a robot specifically designed to sense Bugs.
