i dont think sonic is outskilling sora here
sora is like the 2nd most skilled on the wiki in video games
Alright, let's get this started. Obviously, all stats equalized, no hax minus stuff like enhanced senses/ESP, only skill will be the determining factor here. So with that, here's Marisa's working with: And here's what Sora has: Marisa (9): @ztarwarz, @Kirbonic_Pikmin, @AdamHkureiJanitor...
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Pretty sure a lot his feats were debunked in the thread, not to mention Sonic would still hold a decent advantage with the boost (even though it got downgraded) and that along with his impressive skill set means he could close the skill gap or even overwhelm Sora. But it doesn't matter cuz in the end it comes down to haxes.
So for the battle:
Sonic:
+Speed boost + skill can overwhelm Sora
+Invulnerability means physical attacks won't work
+Resists a lot of Sora's stuff
+Chaos control ggs due to layered cm1 and also info manip Sora doesn't resist
+Pretty sure Sora doesn't resists layered time stop
=Equal in skill mostly without speed amps
-Sonic generally starts off with physical attacks before resorting to hax which may give Sora and opening
Sora:
+High Godly means Sonic needs to pull out his hax
+Resists most of sonic's hax
= Skill equals
= Fate manip might help Sora because it works on himself rather than the oppenent
-Likely gets overwhelmed when Sonic speed boosts
-Gets nuked by chaos control which has stuff like dream manip, layered cm1 destruction and info destruction
Leaning towards Sonic for now because he's more likely to pull out his wincons first after realising his physical attacks aren't doing anything but I'll wait for KH supporters.
Also how deep into low 1c is Sonic's ap? would it be infinite 5D scaling to his base form which jumped from tier 4 to universal+ in strength or is that not how it works? Because I think we scale Super Sonic's growth to his base form.