Soul/Mind haxing a machine and being made of knowledge or memories?

[TartaChocholate]

Two separate questions, stuff I wanted to be sure of:

1. Is soul or mind haxing a machine that has neither a soul or mind a form of Technology Manipulation or outright Resistance Negation?
2. A being made of memories or knowledge qualifies for Type 1 Abstract Existence? At first I thought that it wasn't enough, but cases like Femto or Senna do have abstract existence precisely by being made of those things.

 

[Hypertornado099]

1) If soul or mind hax worked on it, then it has a soul
2) Only if they are intangible and can't be interacted by the physical world

 

[TartaChocholate]

1. Ah gotcha, so in this scenario the default is to assume the machine or such does have something "haxeable" to begin with. What about the case it's stated or acknowledged that the machine or character being affected lacks a mind or a soul?
2. I see. Makes sense. I don't remember about Senna, but IIRC Griffith was indeed unable to exist in the mortal world as Femto so he needed to get himself reincarnated and all to go back to the human world, so it follows pretty much what you mention.

 

[Nierre]

How can one mind or soul hax a being that doesn't have neither of those things?

 

[TartaChocholate]

How can one mind or soul hax a being that doesn't have neither of those things?

Precisely my question. Despite the apparent impossibility, what would that be?

 

[Huesito88]

Precisely my question. Despite the apparent impossibility, what would that be?

If it's definitely like that and there's no other verse mechanic that can explain away the situation then it can be listed in the mind/soul section that they have the ability to mind/soul hax those that don't have a mind/soul. That's how it's treated here like I checked.

 

[TartaChocholate]

I see, that clears things up. Thanks for all the help, guys.

 

[Hypertornado099]

1. Ah gotcha, so in this scenario the default is to assume the machine or such does have something "haxeable" to begin with. What about the case it's stated or acknowledged that the machine or character being affected lacks a mind or a soul?
2. I see. Makes sense. I don't remember about Senna, but IIRC Griffith was indeed unable to exist in the mortal world as Femto so he needed to get himself reincarnated and all to go back to the human world, so it follows pretty much what you mention.

Then it would be unconventional mind manipulation, and a form of technology manipulation

 

[TartaChocholate]

Then it would be unconventional mind manipulation, and a form of technology manipulation

Gotcha, makes more sense. Thanks for all the help again, dude.

 

[Hypertornado099]

Gotcha, makes more sense. Thanks for all the help again, dude.

Is this for final fantasy 7?

 

[TartaChocholate]

Is this for final fantasy 7?

Nope, it was something I remembered when I was looking in the CRT section and got me wondering.