Space Manipulation vs Time Manipulation

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Trafalgar Law vs Julius Novachrono

• Speed is equalized
• Distance of 10 meters
• Both want to kill each other
• Dressrosa Arc is used
• The location is in the castle of the Clover Kingdom

Trafalgar Law:
Julius Novachrono:
Icon:

 

[Kuro4416]

Looks like this is a stomp

 

[Loyd]

Does law resist time hax? julius can spawn a time freeze on him which is thought base iirc or EE with a time blast

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Does law resist time hax?

No but Yes probably... Only when haki resists devil fruit abilities gets accepted on the wiki

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Law can't resist the time manipulation, just as Julius can't resist the space manipulation

It's not stomp, they're both capable of killing each other with one attack.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Wait can't law just precog and then slice with room? this match up is too confusing and both law and especially Julius haven't shown everything they can do.

 

[Epsilon_R]

Wait can't law just precog and then slice with room? this match up is too confusing and both law and especially Julius haven't shown everything they can do.

Well, Julius thinks and traps Law in time so his Precog won't help him

 

[Nierre]

It's precog

 

[Epsilon_R]

?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Well, Julius thinks and traps Law in time so his Precog won't help him

Law knows what Julius thinks before he thinks...

Observation haki let's you know the future by reading intent, emotions and mind... So when you use start using observation haki you know the future by reading their intent.... **** I'm confusing myself

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

For example... If someone will teleport, in the future... Obs haki will know when they will do it and how the will do it by reading intent... So basically they know your future thoughts even tho you haven't made them yet by reading your current intent/emotion or mind

 

[Epsilon_R]

Law knows what Julius thinks before he thinks...

Observation haki let's you know the future by reading intent, emotions and mind... So when you use start using observation haki you know the future by reading their intent.... **** I'm confusing myself

Even if he see it coming, he can't dodge it because it's though based.

Julius thinks > Law sees the future > Time stop

even if he knows what he thinks before he actually do so:

Law sees the future > Julius thinks > Time stop before he can move

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Law knows what will happen before Julius thinks >> Julius thinks, and then gets spatially sliced that doesn't have travel time

 

[Epsilon_R]

Law knows what will happen before Julius thinks >> Julius thinks and then gets spatially sliced that doesn't have travel time

This is so wrong.

Let's take it step by step:

Law needs to see the future, then create his room then swing his sword to slice Julius. Am I wrong?

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

for Julius to trap someone in time or use EE he needs to get close btw

However, Julius can accelerate time and get faster

 

[Loyd]

Pretty sure laws room isn't thought base it has movements, gestures etc.

If he needs to get close to time freeze then law might have a chance imo

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Law needs to see the future, then create his room then swing his sword to slice Julius. Am I wrong?

Law doesn't actually see the future but know the future... Then creates room and slice yes

 

[Epsilon_R]

for Julius to trap someone in time or use EE he needs to get close

However, Julius can accelerate time and get faster

Ten meters is more than enough.

 

[Theendzero13]

How good is law kenbu again? His page only lists it as rudimentary, and the haki page says that rudimentary future sight only happens infrequently and only for the brief future , instead of being constant

 

[Epsilon_R]

Law doesn't actually see the future but know the future... Then creates ron an slice yes

So Law thinks then swing his hand to slice

Meanwhile Julius just thinks, meaning Time stop will occur before he gets Spatial sliced

Not only that but getting cut by Law doesn't actually kill so it won't stop him from stopping time.

Lastly Julius can revert his body a few moments back if necessary

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

So Law thinks then swing his hand to slice

Yes before Julius thinks

Not only that but getting cut by Law doesn't actually kill so it won't stop him from stopping time.

Does Julius actually do that? I don't remember him stopping time when fighting licht

 

[Epsilon_R]

Yes before Julius thinks

Speed is Equal, there's no such thing as Law thinking before Julius. They think at the same time

Does Julius actually do that? I don't remember him stopping time when fighting licht

He does, he was just holding back against Patry because PIS

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Speed is Equal, there's no such thing as Law thinking before Julius. They think at the same time

Precog...

He does, he was just holding back against Patry because PIS

any reason why he wouldn't do the same to law or?

 

[theultimate5105]

Law needs to think then create the room then spatial slash
Julius needs to think
Julish takes this
also Laws Spatial slash does not one shot on its own

Precog...

Not how precog works

 

[Loyd]

Yes before Julius thinks

I assume to keep it fair in vs matchup both characters start at the same time so isn't it more like:

Julius thinks > time stop
Law > future sight > realises julius first move but alil too late.

 

[Epsilon_R]

Precog...

Precog =\= makes you think faster

In any case, cutting Julius requires body movement. And in this wiki, thought based attacks > Body movement attacks

 

[Dragoonseraphim]

He held back against patry because he didn’t want to hurt William.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Julius thinks > time stop

Isn't that out of character?

Man this shit makes no sense

 

[Loyd]

Dunno tbh its the first move he does whenever i watch crunchyroll youtube fights

 

[Epsilon_R]

Isn't that out of character?

In character, either that or aging to death, which is instant on humans

 

[Theendzero13]

So..
Law got : precog+movement based teleportation
Julius got: speed amplification+ precog+ though based teleportation
Julius can also do an area of effect time reversal if he get hit by room

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Oh...
Precognition (He gains the ability to see into the immediate future to help him dodge attacks and plan around the movements of his opponent, and also allowing him to predict the incoming future events),

Yee this a stomp... Even tho Julius uses his abilities quite mercifully, Julius still has stomp abilities always ready so

 

[Epsilon_R]

Yeah, this is a stomp

 

[Dragoonseraphim]

Mercifully? He erased two EotMS fodders with no warning

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

EotMS

Mercifully? He erased two EotMS fodders with no warning

Well he usually gives people a chance to try and do something I think

 

[Epsilon_R]

Only Patry BC he's in William's body and William is pretty much like his son

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Oh ok... But isn't that his only fight?

 

[Epsilon_R]

He fought fodders in chapter 35, stopped time to prevent Asta and Langris from throwing hands in chapter 128 and used time magic across the kingdom in chapter 145