Spider Man Noir vs Taylor Hebert

[Wokistan]

Peter pulls up to Brockton Bay in his efforts to destroy organized crime. Obviously, this puts him at odds with a certain bullied teen.

Not Khepri

Speed Equal

Both okay with killing

Despite the intro, Taylor does have the nanothorn and antigrav wings alongside her standard stuff

Takes place in Brockton Bay. Neither start with the location of the other known by default, not starting in Skitter territory so she doesn't just instantly know, and the other undersiders won't interfere in any way at all. Spider Noir does know her appearance and general location though.

They're within 200m of one another.

Spider-Man Noir:

Taylor Hebert:

Inconclusive:

 

[Bedroombedrock]

So uh, what? Do they like start in a part of the city just a few hundred meters away from each other or?

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Is a pretty broken City, so it makes sense they have no visibility to each other.

Still, Peter has by far, far the mobility advantage, but I see Taylor actually accurately knowing where he is first. Even if he moves far up enough a building or something to find her easily, Taylor can whip up a cloud of insects in pretty short order and knows better than being in the middle of nowhere and not moving with an enemy around she hasn't found.

 

[Bedroombedrock]

Actually can her bugs get past 9-B dura? Maybe if she puts the capsaicin bugs in his eyes but doesnt he wear goggles? Taylor has the range advantage and is probably just as smart as he is and is probably more versatile but I feel like if Spidey decides to just tank her bugs and close the distance he can probably knock her out quickly

 

[Bedroombedrock]

It says he has a spider sense, does it scale to the original spidermans? And he has a sonic device? What does it do?

And is his webslinging as good as the original spidermans as well? If not Taylor can probably just fly away and outrange him though how durable is her jetpack? He might just shoot it

 

[LSirLancelotDuLacl]

Oh wait, I did a big freaking dumb and just realized this is Spiderman Noir.

Anyway, it should be comparable to Peter's - it still is more or less outright precognition.

Not sure about the sonic device, not much else is said in the file, but I don't believe he webslings as much as normal spiderman even if he webslings. He doesn't even wall crawl much and prefers something close to parkour. Shooting wouldn't help him much though, with speed equal Taylor could keep tabs on him with Swarm Sense and yeet out of the way.

Her bugs could bite even Lung when thye managed getting somewhere soft enough, so the only issue is getting through his suit... which is a bit of an issue because his suit indeed covers most of him.

 

[Wokistan]

Bugs will do fine for 9-B dura, bugs can sting elephants and stuff and still inject toxins. Taylor also haa done sfuff like blind and suffocafe people with them, and there's the time she dropped a knife on mantellum using bugs. She has a gun and a nanothorn herself, and iirc the noir spider sense wasn't as ridiculous as 616 Spidey.

 

[Bedroombedrock]

So how far apart are they

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

According to standard battle assumptions, the range is at the maximum range of a combatant up to 4 km. So here a bit more than 600-1300 m depending on whether Taylor is stressed.

Even if Taylor can't get bugs to slip inside Spider-man's suit (which is highly questionable), she can use the bugs to cover up his goggles, and the accumulation of bugs getting squashed while clinging on the goggles will cover them up and render them unusable. Taylor's strategy against Dragon in the PRT HQ was to cover up anything that looked like a sensor with bugs.

 

[Bedroombedrock]

so how does spiderman find her

 

[ShadowWhoWalks]

Taylor is pragmatic enough to keep hiding, and a room in a random appartment would make a good hiding place. Don't think Spidey has any reliable way to find her.

 

[Wokistan]

It's been a while since I read the noir stuff

Let's say he knows her appearance and a general area.

 

[Bedroombedrock]

General area but how big?