Spider-Man Upgrade

[Ehnkr2beboh]

OK, Spider-Man obviously scales above his villians. How strong are his villians? Read this last panel. OK, so Spidey is Outerversal. But wait, there's more proof! Here's Spidey (not amped by the PRB) defeating Galactus and Molecule Ma. He also defeated the Hulk, who defeated Dormammu, Dormammu is equal to Eternity, who doesn't have an M-body, making it Multi-Eternity, who is a platonic concept, so outerversal. Not only that, but a suppressed should be equal to his old Captain Universe. Why? He defeated the Tri-Sentinel, who requires a Captain Universe Spidey level character to beat him. This is further backed up by him scaling aboveIG Thanos and scaling above Firelord. Not only that, but he should be Immeasurable via scaling, but MFTL+++ via feats. Now, last but certainly not least, you know TOAA? Creator of the Omniverse stronger than anyone in Marvel? Even HE'S scared of Spidey!

I know, 1/10 for obviousness due to the day, but dammit I put in effort.

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

bump

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

c'mon the world needs to know the truth

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

bump

 

[ShakeResounding]

Yes.

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

We also need to add yada yada Marvel back to his origin

 

[The_Impress]

i know its an april fool's joke but i legitimately got a heart attack thinking people made the Low 7-C upgrade thread for the 98th time

 

[ShakeResounding]

I mean if we're being honest Spidey got hit with a punch that had the force of everyone in China about two years ago in the comics and I'm pretty sure that's a higher-end of High 8-C

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

I mean if we're being honest Spidey got hit with a punch that had the force of everyone in China about two years ago in the comics and I'm pretty sure that's a higher-end of High 8-C </div>

Can I get a scan for that?

 

[ShakeResounding]

We also need to add yada yada Marvel back to his origin

I'll admit I was the one that did that by accident after copy-pasting the profile update I made a blog on XP

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I mean if we're being honest Spidey got hit with a punch that had the force of everyone in China about two years ago in the comics and I'm pretty sure that's a higher-end of High 8-C

Well if 70 Joules (average 10-B) each it's City Block level.

Although if we use 20 Joules (average 10-C) to be safe since a decent amount of the population would be children, old people as well as some disabled people, then we get Large Building level+ instead.

Huh that's actually a nice feat, do you have a scan?

 

[The_Impress]

I mean it's a hyperbole Spino.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

It's probably unreliable, but it's still an interesting feat.

 

[The_Impress]

I mean there has to be a feat in the first place, this is just exaggeration

 

[ShakeResounding]

I think not, Dork2099!

The feat comes from Collective Man, who has the power of one billion people. He says so himself. (Btw I'm 95% sure him caving in Vibranium is an outlier and also just doesn't make any damn sense).

Spider-Man, in the Mark IV, goes against him and comments about the one billion people thing (because I guess it's common knowledge) before taking a hit from the guy. He's apparently seeing quintuple which seems inconsistent with the amount of other heavy hitters that wail on him that are over this range of power but otherwise okay.

Must've remembered the scan wrong. There might be some statements about the entirety of China somewhere else. But considering he's drawing power from them, I doubt it'd be from the disabled and such. Or at the very least not children if the Cap scan is anything to go by. Could be wrong tho

 

[The_Impress]

im offended by these insults y u do dis ;-;

I mean, we can possibly use this as a feat for like, Mk. 4 maybe?

First we'd need to make a Collective Man profile tho, 25ish appearances, should be easy to make, if anyone's up for it.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

8-B I guess? 1 billion 100 Joules.

 

[The_Impress]

8-B+ no?

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

High 8-C+ to 8-B

 

[The_Impress]

Taking the median 70 Joules, multiplying by adult population of China of 1.142, we get 82.4 Billion joules tho

 

[ShakeResounding]

Considering that MK IV Spidey was treated pretty casually above baddies that usually gave him trouble without the suit, such as Rhino, it makes sense that he'd either be the pinnacle of High 8-C/ be 8-B.

Wow, hey, looks like respect threads win again!

 

[ChemistKyle89]

Just 8-B. 1 billion * 100 Joules = 1e+11 J. To be 8-B+ it would have to be over 2.042e+11 J.

 

[The_Impress]

Spider-Man downscales the **** from this feat tho

 

[ShakeResounding]

We see him holding his side and complaining about not being able to see straight, but he doesn't seem too harmed aside from that. Hell, we see him out and about talking to others a small period of time later with no complaints (It's the All New Inhumans: Issue 6 for those interested). Don't get me wrong he does 100% downscale. But likely not by enough to make a difference in tier if we're at about 24 tons into 8-B if we're using the 1 billion 100 joules thing. Higher if we use that 1.142 billion figure.

Looks like Collective Man is >>> Hulk. Not even his hits left Spidey seeing quintuple.

 

[The_Impress]

4-B Morlun the

 

[Sir_sun_man]

ok what the shit i came here to read an aprill fools joke about spidy and here we are actually discussing upgrading him a bit

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

I'd like to upgrade him to 8-B TBH.

Then we'll upgrade him to 1-A due to scaling above Multi-Eterniry, the Pre-Retcon Beyonder, the Pre-Retcon Molecule Man and The One Above All.

 

[ShakeResounding]

Baby steps

 

[The_Impress]

People actually have unironically suggested 4-B Spider-Man, 7-B Daredevil, 1-A base Hulk, 1-A and 0 Base Thor, and my all-time favourite, Tier 0 Gwenpool uwu

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

Oh god.

I remember someone saying anyone who's hurt Juggernaut is 2-C because Juggs tanked a weakened Thor's Godblast.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

oh boy

i think i know some of those people form the good old comicbatle days

 

[ShakeResounding]

4-B MK IV because he's treated as on-par with Model 51. Anything less is downplay OvO

Minor jokes aside, we'd have to do few things before we can apply this.

1.) As Zark suggested, create a Collective Man profile.

2.) Put this feat into a calc blog

3.) Make a CRT.

And boom! 7-A 8-B Spidey will be here in no time!

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

We should wait until the forum shift, correct?

 

[The_Impress]

Not necessarily, this'll be over quick

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

Cool. I can't believe this thread might actually cause a Spidey Upgrade.

 

[DoctorS4mh4in]

If Spidey is being upgraded to 8-B, should Venom and Carnage also become 8-B?

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

If Spidey is being upgraded to 8-B, should Venom and Carnage also become 8-B?

If the upgrade goes through, any character currently scaling to Spidey goes up to 8-B.

 

[Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan]

I remember Zark saying some will.

 

[ShakeResounding]

If the upgrade goes through, any character currently scaling to Spidey goes up to 8-B.

Well, you have to remember Spidey kinda treats some of his more challenging villains like a joke. Temporarily knocking out Rhino with a swinging kick, one-shotting somebody that has the Goblin serum, easily overpowering Doc Ock, etc. That's not to say some of his villains can't possibly scale, but moreso that we'd have to tread on thin ice as to who does. Not everyone will scale is my point, since this is Mark IV Spidey after all.

 

[Ehnkr2beboh]

If the upgrade goes through, any character currently scaling to Spidey goes up to 8-B.

Well, you have to remember Spidey kinda treats some of his more challenging villains like a joke. Temporarily knocking out Rhino with a swinging kick, one-shotting somebody that has the Goblin serum, easily overpowering Doc Ock, etc. That's not to say some of his villains can't possibly scale, but moreso that we'd have to tread on thin ice as to who does. Not everyone will scale is my point, since this is Mark IV Spidey after all.
If that's the case, why do his villains currently scale to him?