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Squid Game General Discussion Thread

Kang No-Eul, who is the female guard from season 2, was also an immigrant who survived escaping from North Korea. I want to avoid talking in great length for obvious reasons, but this video seems quite important for the advanced levels of military training knowledge and stealth master one would need in order to survive something like that. And extensive swimming was basically stated to be something she and Kang Sae-Byuk both had to go through. Also, calling the guards "Kids" is an exaggeration; at worst they're more like late teenagers. And the youngest we seen single guard be was 19 (Which by South Korea's standards, is considered 18 anyone else). When you here someone say "You're just a kid," that's probably just a slang for younger generation; common for people in their 40's to refer to people in their 20's as kids.

Seong was able to pull the guns out of their hands harder than the guards could pull them back. Also, despite the players being heavily outgunned and somewhat out numbered, Seong was able to take out a couple guards on his own. He was also carrying the weight of the rebellion, not just in terms of leadership but also fitness. Which gives the strong impression he is comparable if not superior to Cho Hyun-Ju but season 2 (AKA a Special Forces Veteran). Otherwise, you'd think she'd be the one leading the charge as opposed to Gi-Hun or Jung-Bae. Speaking of which, there were also the fights against Thanos and his group. Thanos is thought to be Season 2's version of Deok Su, and is a street brawler for sure; though I'd argue his friend Nam-gyu takes that cake. Feats in the bathroom brawl are also comparable to some from Deok-Su's gang. Such as breaking necks with bare hands.

Again, if the person wielding the steel bars and pipes are especially strong, then taking hits without broken bones is still a solid durability feat. Also, getting hit in the back and still being able to stand on two feat would still be impressive. Realistically, even if your back wasn't broken, if a big tough gangster gave you a really good thwack with a steel pipe, the sheer fatigue in your back would normally knock the wind out of you and leave you unable to stand or walk. And yes, trained marines/soldiers are indeed among the strongest players, but even ones who aren't those such as the the thugs are often shown to be just as strong.
 
Yeah i mean, i can assume its a pretty tough thing to pull off..but its also something thats happened off screen that we dont know the logistics of, and i dont think we really can say, as a site, that 'escaping North Korea makes you 9-C'.

They kind of are just young adults and teens yeah, that we dont knwo the proper training regime of or whether its 'marine level'. They're mainly just holdiing the guns, and if they can rank up like the Recruiter did, then maybe

Seong taking charge from his experience and training with gun doesnt scale to the physical AP part i dont think. You can say '9-C with guns' ig but theres still nothing saying he jumped up from 10-B to 9-C in season 2 physically. There is also nothing we can use to scale Thanos to Deok Su fr. Like hes obviously scrappy, but Deok Su was a full on grown man, meanwhile Thanos kinda got pimped by Front man. Just because they play a similar role narratively, and we can see a character is accustomed to some form of fighting shouldnt really make them 9-C, which as per this wiki we use to include highly trained martial artists or marines of the top level (and then impossible street tier action heroes you see in slightly less grounded media). Giving this to every character thats seen to throw a punch or strangle someone in Squid Game doesnt make sense.

Its a durability feat for sure, but its not like the steel pipes are 100% guaranteed to break brones nonetheless so its hard to justify that just because you survived it (mainly for plot reasons too), you scale up to a level that is given to the likes of actual trained marines or highly skilled martil artists (something that Seong or his brother never were). If we can use all of this roundabout reasoning to get pretty much everyone up to 9-C (like random guards, or just a random contestant that was able to overpower another one), then it kinda defeats the seaparation of power in actual characters like Deok and Front Man
 
New to this verse’s scaling and was curious what was the justification for frontman having Peak Human speed.
 
Although I can’t think of anyone else in the verse who this would scale to besides In-ho
 
I just recently finished S2

cool
I do not think anything tops the wow factor of Season 1, but I did really like the direction of season 2 even if it kind of felt like half a season. But I am excited for Season 3 as the grand finale regardless.
 
I do not think anything tops the wow factor of Season 1, but I did really like the direction of season 2 even if it kind of felt like half a season. But I am excited for Season 3 as the grand finale regardless.
I do prefer season 1. S2 felt...half-baked? It's hard to describe, but it didn't hit as hard as S1
 
I do prefer season 1. S2 felt...half-baked? It's hard to describe, but it didn't hit as hard as S1
S2 is just less seriousness, more comedic relief. Overall it’s just not written as well. Frontman has some nice philosophy and symbolism though.
 
Season 1 also had much stronger pacing and consistency. Season 2 started out a bit too slow (Games didn't actually start till Episode 3) then basically rushed towards the end (Only 3 out of 6 games were seen thus far). But as I said, Seasons 2 and 3 were intended to just be a single season, but were split due to some Netflix related policy. More depth in the supporting characters were one thing that Season 2 did especially well thus far, even if there were repeated scenes from scene 1. For example, they repeated the "Girls gotta go" scene, but made it more genuine instead of making it a tactic to basically cheat without getting caught.
 
So it has ended. Here are some of my personal takes on some characters.

Jun-ho

Outsmarted and led around like a dog, he is mostly useless throughout the film and would have died if not for Woo-seok.

Woo-seok

He did quite a good job. Thanks to him, Jun-ho managed to survive by countering Captain Park just in time.

Masked Officer

His moments of drinking while having a gun pointed at him, even during a fight, are cool af, though he ultimately got taken out by No-eul due to Character-Induced Stupidity.

In-ho

The Front Man is kind of a hypocrite. He previously spoke about giving players a fair chance to play, but then secretly handed a weapon to 456, encouraging him to kill everyone off-guard except the baby to win the game.

Myung-gi

He is so corrupt he is willing to deceive everyone and even kill his own newborn child for 45.6 billion ₩, though he did not outright kill the old lady and 222 when he had the chance during Hide and Seek. Overall, he is pretty consistent character-wise throughout the film.
 
Haven't seen it yet, but probably will soon if I can find something to stream it.
 
I watched Season 3

Holy hell the ******* narrative writing was bullshit. It was like watching a horror movie where the characters have no common sense
 
I usually don't like to be negative, but everything went downhill the moment the baby was born. Before that was fine, good even, but maaaan. Everything after the baby being born was roughhhhh
 
I got around to binge watching all of season 3. I can sort of see why people seem to be hating on it, it picked up where season 2 left off like it was supposed to. But I was not the biggest fan of how some random characters were killed off so quickly. The baby being born also kind of lead to some things... But I actually found the surprise ending to be great. Even if people didn't like the events leading up to it, Gi-Hun's growth as a true hero was definitely a highlight. As are some satisfactory conclusions of Season 1 family reunions. Though the Cate Blanchett cameo was WTF. And the directors official words worry me now. It was advertised as the final season, but he already now seems quick to question the possibility of more seasons.

I for one am satisfied with season 3 being the conclusion; it would be quite risky to make more. And season 1 is still easily the best; nothing will ever top the wow factor of Season 1's Red Light Green Light.
 
Finished it. Pretty good, but the pacing was kinda slow at some moments. And the ending is overhated tbh.

Also made a sandbox for Player 333 since he shown to be able to hold his own with Gi-Hun during the finale
 
Here, Player 333’s back is turned and Gi-hun turns him around and strikes him in the face, affecting him through striking strength, not sheer brute force. Here, you mention he overpowers while slashed, but it takes alot of time and this little second encounter they both show pretty high relativity in strength. Here when Player 333 strikes Gi-Hun both are not able to overpower one another until Gi-Hun ultimately throws the pole off the stage.

Meanwhile player 333 is unable to tackle thanos and again unable to tackle him into the urinals. thanos counters by slams him to the bathroom stall effortlessly, 333 not being able to escape. thanos then bodyslams him to the ground showing full physical superiority with 333 not escaping and being strangled to near death

thus we can conclude Thanos > player 333 =< gi-hun
 
thanos should be above gi-hun physically, for low diffing player 333 while gi-hun went high end relative to player 333 seeing as they both couldnt overpower each other during the fight, though gi-hun did affect him via strikes.
I don’t think so. Gi-hun makes Myung-gi bleed with a punch or two, and even after he lost his knife, he manages to pull back against the latter and disarm him from his pole. Even after being slashed on the abdomen and stabbed in the forearm, he could still overpower Myung-gi (using one arm while the latter was using both) and swing him over the ledge. Myung-gi was also bloodlusted the whole fight, so it’s safe to say Gi-hun is definitely stronger than him, and possibly Thanos as well.
 
at the least they should scale to each other in c/r and ap/dura, thanos victimized 333, as did gi-hun.
 
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