Sukuna vs Arthur Leywin

[Testarossa002]

Arthur Leywin (Early War Arc) vs Ryomen Sukuna (Full Power)
Realmheart is restricted for Arthur

• AP: At least 2.5 Megatons vs 550 Kilotons, higher with Shrine, even higher with Malevolent Shrine, 9-20 Megatons with Divine Flame, higher with DE
• LS: Class T vs Class G (even though I can't find a single Class G calc)
• Speed: At least 0.0518c, 0.1554c with Thunderclap Impulse and Wind amp vs Mach 7 with 0.129c Reactions, higher with Shrine and Max Elephant's Water (really confusing because these amps are scaling above Mach 7 but are listed as higher than his reactions), 1.23c with WCS
• They start 100m from each other
• Sukuna has prior knowledge on Arthur's fear stuff
• SBA for the rest

Arthur:
Sukuna:
Incon:

 

[DavidTPPM]

Sukuna getting jumped by manhwa MCs? Jinwoo vs Sukuna when? Someone better fix up Baams profile so he can join in too

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

Sukuna getting jumped by manhwa MCs? Jinwoo vs Sukuna when? Someone better fix up Baams profile so he can join in too

Already happened, Beam stomps

 

[DavidTPPM]

Already happened, Beam stomps

I knew I could trust the goat to slam

Wasn't that over a year ago? Didn't Sukuna get upgraded since

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

I knew I could trust the goat to slam

Wasn't that over a year ago? Didn't Sukuna get upgraded since

It wouldn't change anything tho, shinsu skills and resistance plus Baam's irregular existence is too much for the verses.

 

[Klemen_&_Co]

Arthur Leywin (Early War Arc) vs Ryomen Sukuna (Full Power)
Realmheart is restricted for Arthur

• AP: At least 2.5 Megatons vs 550 Kilotons, higher with Shrine, even higher with Malevolent Shrine, 9-20 Megatons with Divine Flame, higher with DE
• LS: Class T vs Class G (even though I can't find a single Class G calc)
• Speed: At least 0.0518c, 0.1554c with Thunderclap Impulse and Wind amp vs Mach 7 with 0.129c Reactions, higher with Shrine and Max Elephant's Water (really confusing because these amps are scaling above Mach 7 but are listed as higher than his reactions), 1.23c with WCS
• They start 100m from each other
• SBA for the rest

Arthur:
Sukuna:
Incon:

Arthur neg diffs

 

[Klemen_&_Co]

Arthur Leywin (Early War Arc) vs Ryomen Sukuna (Full Power)
Realmheart is restricted for Arthur

• AP: At least 2.5 Megatons vs 550 Kilotons, higher with Shrine, even higher with Malevolent Shrine, 9-20 Megatons with Divine Flame, higher with DE
• LS: Class T vs Class G (even though I can't find a single Class G calc)
• Speed: At least 0.0518c, 0.1554c with Thunderclap Impulse and Wind amp vs Mach 7 with 0.129c Reactions, higher with Shrine and Max Elephant's Water (really confusing because these amps are scaling above Mach 7 but are listed as higher than his reactions), 1.23c with WCS
• They start 100m from each other
• SBA for the rest

Arthur:
Sukuna:
Incon:

Even early WA Arthur is at least multi cont to moon level and mftl+ with hax sukuna has no way of dealing with

 

[Korf3ll]

Arthur Leywin (Early War Arc) vs Ryomen Sukuna (Full Power)
Realmheart is restricted for Arthur

• AP: At least 2.5 Megatons vs 550 Kilotons, higher with Shrine, even higher with Malevolent Shrine, 9-20 Megatons with Divine Flame, higher with DE
• LS: Class T vs Class G (even though I can't find a single Class G calc)
• Speed: At least 0.0518c, 0.1554c with Thunderclap Impulse and Wind amp vs Mach 7 with 0.129c Reactions, higher with Shrine and Max Elephant's Water (really confusing because these amps are scaling above Mach 7 but are listed as higher than his reactions), 1.23c with WCS
• They start 100m from each other
• SBA for the rest

Arthur:
Sukuna:
Incon:

Arthur will just stop time, get close to Sukuna and with realmheart 2nd phase he will just lend a multi elemental combo that will OS Sukuna

 

[Specterxxxx]

It wouldn't change anything tho, shinsu skills and resistance plus Baam's irregular existence is too much for the verses.

Can't mahoraga bypass that tho?

 

[Klemen_&_Co]

Arthur will just stop time, get close to Sukuna and with realmheart 2nd phase he will just lend a multi elemental combo that will OS Sukuna

Yeah pretty much and Sukuna has no resistance to AZ anyway

 

[Foriaa]

This arthur still has 4 layers of fear hax. Sukuna has 10 meters of range with shrine, which if he engages with first, will get stopped with arthur's aura.

 

[Foriaa]

arthur stomps but we need to ban fear hax from working on other verses...

fear hax meta is so ass, arthur can't have any matchups done because he has so many layers, his aether core key can't even be touched too

 

[BeTheWay1rst]

Can't mahoraga bypass that tho?

No, he can't, and i am not even done, they are many crt incoming.

 

[Klemen_&_Co]

fear hax meta is so ass, arthur can't have any matchups done because he has so many layers, his aether core key can't even be touched too

Too many layers kinda results in stomps vs basically anyone

 

[Testarossa002]

Arthur will just stop time, get close to Sukuna and with realmheart 2nd phase he will just lend a multi elemental combo that will OS Sukuna

Realmheart is restricted for Arthur

This arthur still has 4 layers of fear hax. Sukuna has 10 meters of range with shrine, which if he engages with first, will get stopped with arthur's aura.

Yeah, but his range with it isn't as high as Sukuna's attacks. Also, only white core mages have passive fear stuff. Everybody below that has to manually activate it. Anyway, I'll give Sukuna prior knowledge of the fear stuff. That's probably the best way to prevent insta-neg in TBATE Matches

 

[Apotheosis69]

So thing is… even with Sukuna having that high of reactions… due to him only being able to MOVE at Mach 7… wouldn't he still be blitzed to all hell?

 

[Testarossa002]

Reactions ensure that he can't get blitzed
He just can't tag Arthur outside of WCS
That in itself becomes irrelevant the moment Sukuna casts Domain expansion
Also, if we're being fr, that stuff qualifies for combat speed. JJK guys were not interested in arguing for it to avoid outlier allegations

 

[Korf3ll]

Reactions ensure that he can't get blitzed
He just can't tag Arthur outside of WCS
That in itself becomes irrelevant the moment Sukuna casts Domain expansion
Also, if we're being fr, that stuff qualifies for combat speed. JJK guys were not interested in arguing for it to avoid outlier allegations

even WCS is useless since with Realmheart, Arthur got power nullification before the spell could be casted and precognition (along with the insane boost on his mana output)

 

[Foriaa]

since with Realmheart

restricted here

 

[Testarossa002]

List of advantages:
Arthur

• >4x AP to Dura advantage
• Far superior LS
• Better CQC fighter
• Fear hax
• Absolute Zero (he can do it without Realmheart atp)

Sukuna

• Invisible attacks
• Domain Expansion + Fuga
• WCS

 

[Klemen_&_Co]

List of advantages:
Arthur

• >4x AP to Dura advantage
• Far superior LS
• Better CQC fighter
• Fear hax
• Absolute Zero (he can do it without Realmheart atp)

Sukuna

• Invisible attacks
• Domain Expansion + Fuga
• WCS

Also Arthur has Sylvie so Sukuna is kinda cooked
his attacks outside of WCS are not doing much and are not win con
Domain is too slow and weak to work
Fuga is also not doing anything and takes too long to use
WCS require set up
Arthur just decimates badly with hax and abilities alone

 

[Apotheosis69]

Yeah looking at profiles and Sukuna genuinely is cooked.

Kitchen aside…

 

[Testarossa002]

Also Arthur has Sylvie so Sukuna is kinda cooked

i get you and i agree but due to an oversight, Sylvie isn't listed as part of his equipment. Meaning, he can't use her. That'd be rectified later in the year but for now, he has no access to sylvie

his attacks outside of WCS are not doing much and are not win con

It's moreso that they're invisible and can do accumulated damage but fair point

Domain is too slow and weak to work

same as above

Fuga is also not doing anything and takes too long to use

Fuga is around >10x his AP. Arthur get's cooked if it's used. That being said, the other part of your sentence is valid

WCS require set up

Not that long. He chanted it and fired it before an SOL attack got to him.

Arthur just decimates badly with hax and abilities alone

Likely
Arthur closes the gap with his superior movement speed and decimates in CQC.. Uses absolute zero to seal the deal

 

[Klemen_&_Co]

i get you and i agree but due to an oversight, Sylvie isn't listed as part of his equipment. Meaning, he can't use her. That'd be rectified later in the year but for now, he has no access to sylvie

It's moreso that they're invisible and can do accumulated damage but fair point

same as above

Fuga is around >10x his AP. Arthur get's cooked if it's used. That being said, the other part of your sentence is valid

Not that long. He chanted it and fired it before an SOL attack got to him.

Likely
Arthur closes the gap with his superior movement speed and decimates in CQC.. Uses absolute zero to seal the deal

Arthur can prob sense the slashes but even then would not really work

Wait why is Fuga > 10x ap?

No evidence Kashimo's beam is sol

I agree on last point tho

 

[Testarossa002]

Wait why is Fuga > 10x ap?

9-20 Megatons with Divine Flame

No evidence Kashimo's beam is sol

That's another matter entirely but VS matches only use what's currently accepted on the profiles

I agree on last point tho

Fine to put you as Arthur winning FRA?

 

[Testarossa002]

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