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What do you think the part highlighted in Red suggests.Type 2 (False General Transduality): Being qualitatively beyond and superior to the nature of all dual systems and concepts within the scope of an entire level of reality.
Okay how does 5D Hax bypass anything in the dual systems? Because as long as it is part of either the negative or positive it will be negated fully.Except for Smurf 5D Mind Hax laughs at your Transduality and drives him mad anyway. Also, every Digimon can affect NEP Type 2, half the Digimon have NEP and the other half can affect that half, and Overlord GAIA has the power of both groups.
What do you think the part highlighted in Red suggests.
Pretty sure that concepts aren't bound by range and that the only limit is the user's range since concepts aren't bound by any Dimensional structures so I wouldn't call that NLF also JTTW treats mind hax as type 2 madness manipulation.Because NLF, your Transduality only extends to the Concepts and Ideas it has proven to go, just because you exist outside all 4D Concepts does not mean that you exist beyond the reach of 5D powers.
Its Type 2, but that doesn't matter. As its Passive, it can affect 5D Minds, and it will incapacitate Sun Wukong winning Overlord GAIA the match.
So between passive madness manipulation that is 5D in nature and Passive 4D+ chaos manipulation that causes all of reality and it's laws and concepts to go upside down.That's wrong, as even 5-D Type 3 Concepts exist beyond Type 2 Concepts from a 4-D Verse. Concepts are still very much limited by a Verse's Cosmology and extend only to the Dimensions shown in-verse.
Wait...how is that type 2 just by embodying the dark area? That's more like abstract existence.@Everything12
Are you sure they can affect NEP2 ? Like, the only digimon that i see being that is Lucemon, since he conceptually embodies the dark area
I think it's type 1Aren’t most dark digimon NEP? It explains on the physiology page.
because the Dark Area is a nonexistant realmWait...how is that type 2 just by embodying the dark area? That's more like abstract existence.
Nonexistent beyond a conceptual level?because the Dark Area is a nonexistant realm
.... statements?I believe so.
Passive chaos manipulation that disrupts the infinite multitude of positive and negative dualities(concept and laws) that fluctuates countlessly on reality via scaling to Buddha who's prescence passively balances and upholds all things in the universe on a 4D+ scale.though it doesn't really matter, as Lucemon is WAAAAY higher in the hierarchy than GAIA
Anyway, better call an expert on the matter
@Dragonmasterxyz can digimons affect type 2 nonexistants ?
@Greatsage13th
Btw, what can Wukung do to beat GAIA ?
It does his chaos manipulation is actually duality manipulation basically manipulation of anything that has the value of 1 and 0That doesnt seem very combat applicable?
Basically it could erase their concept or existence , poison them, curse them , nullify their powers, grants wukong immunities to their powers, burn them, freeze them, transmute them , suffocate them, stop them in a single moment in time..... etc.So what does it do to the opponent exactly?
That's what Wukong's Chaos manipulation(duality manipulation) does passivelyYou still need conceptual manip to erase someone concept though.
As for Digimon, I believe every holy and dark element users can affect being from dark area (NEP type 1) as stated on the previous revision. Not sure about NEP type 2.
I don't see conceptual manipulation on his page though.That's what Wukong's Chaos manipulation(duality manipulation) does passively
you may ask @Ricsi-viragosi whyI don't see conceptual manipulation on his page though.
exactly none of that is said in his profile, so i'm gonna need you to give me proof of thatBasically it could erase their concept or existence , poison them, curse them , nullify their powers, grants wukong immunities to their powers, burn them, freeze them, transmute them , suffocate them, stop them in a single moment in time..... etc.
Basically what I'm trying to say is wukong's chaos manipulation is extremely versatile as an offensive and defensive option passively which would put Archie Sonic's chaos manipulation to shame.
exactly none of that is said in his profile, so i'm gonna need you to give me proof of that
Okay so....I just want to confirm this... technically manipulation of dualities is similar to manipulating various concepts and laws at the same time while casing various chaotic effects throughout right?
Yes. Duality Manipulation comes with most powers (you can make someone that is alive be dead, someone that exists not, someone that is strong be weak, etc.)
It is simply to the extreme (If Wukong changed gravity's suction force to repulsion, all of existence would comply, black holes would repel at near light speeds, and so on).
NLF considering considering that everything is bound by at least any dual systemPretty sure GAIA's Concept would be 5-D anyway, what with Digimon themselves pretty much being Higher-Dimensional Concepts. So Wukong's 4D Concept Manip, no matter how long and verbose you describe it, isn't going to do anything.
So where does that support your claims of all those possible effects on the opponent and what makes it passive?
Passive chaos manipulation that disrupts the infinite multitude of positive and negative dualities(concept and laws) that fluctuates countlessly on reality via scaling to Buddha who's prescence passively balances and upholds all laws and concepts in the universe on a 4D+ scale.
So where does that support your claims of all those possible effects on the opponent and what makes it passive?