Sunny Speed and AP Upgrade (Shadow Slave)

[Seraphor12]

Well, this is about this calc which got accepted. So sunny and higher ranked beings should scale to it. He is already MFTL+, This just gives a higher number.

Dark Sea Feats

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Summary:
When the Dark Sea was first created as the Curse of Darkness it spread all across the sky to destroy all the stars in it, possibly going even further. Later in story sunny says it devoured their entire realm, and the realms are at least universal in size with a possibly of even being infinite. This dark sea is also mentioned to be extremely destructive. So, because of it the speed for its feat is 5.0868056e+21 m/s or 1.6967757e+13c (Massively FTL+). And Sunny said himself that he scales to dark sea here. Dark sea is currently a sea of black water although it also contains that original darkness which achieved that feat and sunny mentions that he would need to destroy that for killing it. This is not the first feat like this in which a great rank being destroyed stars. There were these skeletons in nightmare desert which are cursed by shadow god to fight for eternity. So, they fight daily and in just one clash is devasting enough to destroy millions of stars. Sunny have said that the weakest of them are powerful corrupted rank creatures and there are also stronger. So, it suggests there were several great rank beings. This feat is also visibly MFTL+. Also, the verse has UES and they were also said to being able to amplify their speeds with their essence.
This is more context to this feat of dark sea.

For some unknown reason, the humans attacked the figure. The figure's chest was pierced by the spear of the tallest human among the inhabitants. What flowed from the terrible wound, however, was not blood, but an endless flood of pure darkness. The darkness devoured the humans gathered around the fatally wounded creature and spread. Soon, it devoured the crater left by the fallen star and then, devoured the entire world. It was the curse of all-consuming darkness.
As the darkness spread across the world, it reached the skies. The stars were either devoured by it or fell down, turning the sky into a terrible, lightless abyss, the starless void. The sun never rose above the cursed land again, leaving humans trembling in the cold. Soon, horrifying creatures came from the darkness to devour them. The best and the brightest of the ancient civilization took arms to defend their cities, and for a while, they were able to resist the tide of monsters.

In addition to speed I would like to revise his moon level ap in supreme key. It can be upgraded to planet level as he is directly stating that him and Nephis can conquer or destroy the earth if they want to. And this is consistent as he has also earlier said that just by merely using her powers Nephis can shatter continents and heat up all of the oceans and burn entire atmosphere of earth. Note it is just by using her powers on earth not even if she wants to destroy it. And he said same thing for himself as well that he has seven bodies and each of them can easily destroy continents, so as it says continents so at least 2 continents. And he has seven bodies so it can easily become an area equivalent to 14 Continents. And he also has several powerful creatures with him who are also a part of his aspect, and they all are very destructive. And he said this by considering that he is also weak on the earth. This is verse specific thing that mythical beings cannot enter in war realm and he is such beings so that's why entire universe tries to reject his existence whenever he enters there and because of it he is severally weakened there. So without these restrictions his ap would be even stronger. So ig this justification should be enough to give him planet level.
Agree: Godernet, Finepoint
Neutral:
Disagree: Godernet (For planet level), Finepoint (For planet level)

 

[Seraphor12]

Bump

 

[Pluto321]

following and looks good

 

[LOTM_Historian]

Not sure if Sunny and the Dark Sea being similar in rank entails him scaling to its speed of spreading across the realm.

Narratively, these CRTs make less and less sense.

 

[Seraphor12]

Bump(Added some statements for ap upgrade rn)

 

[Floxy178]

Not sure if Sunny and the Dark Sea being similar in rank entails him scaling to its speed of spreading across the realm.

Narratively, these CRTs make less and less sense.

Same rank and class won't guarantee for most cases but we have Sunny's statement about seeing himself equal to Dark Sea.

Agree with the thread.

 

[Verezen]

Well, this is about this calc which got accepted. So sunny and higher ranked beings should scale to it. He is already MFTL+, This just gives a higher number.

Dark Sea Feats

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Summary:
When the Dark Sea was first created as the Curse of Darkness it spread all across the sky to destroy all the stars in it, possibly going even further. Later in story sunny says it devoured their entire realm, and the realms are at least universal in size with a possibly of even being infinite. This dark sea is also mentioned to be extremely destructive. So, because of it the speed for its feat is 5.0868056e+21 m/s or 1.6967757e+13c (Massively FTL+). And Sunny said himself that he scales to dark sea here. Dark sea is currently a sea of black water although it also contains that original darkness which achieved that feat and sunny mentions that he would need to destroy that for killing it. This is not the first feat like this in which a great rank being destroyed stars. There were these skeletons in nightmare desert which are cursed by shadow god to fight for eternity. So, they fight daily and in just one clash is devasting enough to destroy millions of stars. Sunny have said that the weakest of them are powerful corrupted rank creatures and there are also stronger. So, it suggests there were several great rank beings. This feat is also visibly MFTL+. Also, the verse has UES and they were also said to being able to amplify their speeds with their essence.
This is more context to this feat of dark sea.

In addition to speed I would like to revise his moon level ap in supreme key. It can be upgraded to planet level as he is directly stating that him and Nephis can conquer or destroy the earth if they want to. And this is consistent as he has also earlier said that just by merely using her powers Nephis can shatter continents and heat up all of the oceans and burn entire atmosphere of earth. Note it is just by using her powers on earth not even if she wants to destroy it. And he said same thing for himself as well that he has seven bodies and each of them can easily destroy continents, so as it says continents so at least 2 continents. And he has seven bodies so it can easily become an area equivalent to 14 Continents. And he also has several powerful creatures with him who are also a part of his aspect, and they all are very destructive. And he said this by considering that he is also weak on the earth. This is verse specific thing that mythical beings cannot enter in war realm and he is such beings so that's why entire universe tries to reject his existence whenever he enters there and because of it he is severally weakened there. So without these restrictions his ap would be even stronger. So ig this justification should be enough to give him planet level.

Disagree with the speed rating.
I don’t think a UES justifies equating their speed. We have seen massive speed gaps within the same rank and class. Though I think you could argue multi solar based on the destruction feats, I don’t think a speed rating of that high is viable, especially when its is so much higher than other speed feats. I just don’t think its consistent.

 

[Verezen]

Same rank and class won't guarantee for most cases but we have Sunny's statement about seeing himself equal to Dark Sea.

Agree with the thread.

The statement refers to their strength, so I think his ap/dc and tier can be scaled the same. But scaling his speed there seems to inconsistent.

 

[Seraphor12]

I don’t think a UES justifies equating their speed. We have seen massive speed gaps within the same rank and class. Though I think you could argue multi solar based on the destruction feats, I don’t think a speed rating of that high is viable, especially when its is so much higher than other speed feats. I just don’t think its consistent.

they can amplify their speeds with it. so that's why I thought it could work. But anyway, sure if you disagree.

 

[Floxy178]

The statement refers to their strength, so I think his ap/dc and tier can be scaled the same. But scaling his speed there seems to inconsistent.

Not necessarily DC. I understand your concern about speed though.

 

[Godernet]

I think a statement of Sunny calling the Dark Sea an equal is a bit more valuable than their titles, so I can definitely see the argument.

At worst, I can see this being a likely rating but I'm fine with them scaling to each other, maybe other staff will have different takes.

As for the destroying the planet statement, to my knowledge, without an accompanying feat to calculate or evidence that the planet would be destroyed beyond its GBE, the default assumption would be the standard calc for planetary destruction.

which would be less than the 5C rating they currently have.

 

[Seraphor12]

As for the destroying the planet statement, to my knowledge, without an accompanying feat to calculate or evidence that the planet would be destroyed beyond its GBE, the default assumption would be the standard calc for planetary destruction.

which would be less than the 5C rating they currently have.

I see so it can just work as a supporting feat for his current ap?

 

[Godernet]

I see so it can just work as a supporting feat for his current ap?

Yessir

 

[FinePoint]

I essentially agree with Godernet here.