Superman (Post-Crisis) vs Escanor (DC vs. Nanatsu no Taizai)

[Bossbrosish]

(This one is so interesting, so let's see how it plays out. A guy who's powered by the sun against a guy who wields the power of the sun. How could I not do this?)

Post-COIE Superman and Demon King Arc Near-Noon Escanor are being used. Superman can not go 2-C and Escanor has his The One/The One Ultimate restricted. Battle takes place in Metropolis starting a Kilometer apart and speed is equalized.

Superman (Post-Crisis) AP: 23 Zettatons

Near-Noon Escanor AP: 60.288 Zettatons
(2.6x AP difference in Escanor's favor)

Superman: 5 (Arkansalter2,Makai641001, Estarossa0z, MadeByZiggy (leaning Superman) Richtofen115rdg5)

Escanor: 0

Solaire of Astora beats them both (draw): 0

 

[Arkansalter2]

Before you escanor supps start glazing Escanor.. no Escanor doesn't charcoal Supes because he survived getting legitimately thrown into the sun. The sun is literally a cool sauna to Supes.
However, Supes' laser can can focus and melt on a sub-atomic and molecular level, in which Escanor has no answer to.

Any counters to that?..

 

[Bossbrosish]

I'm going to say it. You think Escanor's sunshine would power up Superman? (And since I know someone's going to say it. No, Escanor's Sunshine won't charcoal Superman)

Reason being this:

The text box mentions the Sun's corona which is 1,000,000 K or 999726.85 degrees celsius and Superman just flew away like it was nothing.

 

[Arkansalter2]

You think Escanor's sunshine would power up Superman?

If it's yellow, absolutely. Escanor's sun would just power him up and allow Superman to just well.. whoop his ass more.

 

[Bossbrosish]

If it's yellow, absolutely. Escanor's sun would just power him up and allow Superman to just well.. whoop his ass more.

It does look like a yellow/orange sun, so it's possible Escanor could just be amplifying Superman with his presence. Which would honestly make for a pretty good interaction. (I honestly love this match up based on this one thing)

 

[Arkansalter2]

It does look like a yellow/orange sun, so it's possible Escanor could just be amplifying Superman with his presence. Which would honestly make for a pretty good interaction. (I honestly love this match up based on this one thing)

Ah yeah. Looks yellow to me. This should be interesting. Following. Lets see what Escanor supps has to say.

 

[Bossbrosish]

Went through their profiles to think of possible win-cons for each.

Escanor:
LS advantage
AP advantage
Better regen
Could possibly negate Superman's regen

Superman:
Can resist Sunshine
Matter manipulation with his heat vision
Kryptonian Physiology (Has Durability negation with heat vision, Intangibility, invisibility, and the super flare which is equivalent to a supernova)

Let me know I missed anything.

 

[Arkansalter2]

Anyways going with supes for my reasons.

 

[Bossbrosish]

Anyways going with supes for my reasons.

Noted. I'm going to wait for the Escanor supporters to show up to see their arguments before I vote for anyone.

 

[Ebihara]

following, would like to see what escanor supporters say as well but this seems like a pretty easy matchup for supes.

 

[GeneralSol16]

I'm going to say it. You think Escanor's sunshine would power up Superman? (And since I know someone's going to say it. No, Escanor's Sunshine won't charcoal Superman)

Reason being this:

The text box mentions the Sun's corona which is 1,000,000 K or 999726.85 degrees celsius and Superman just flew away like it was nothing.

Thats not the same key as the ole being used.

That's a stronger and more durable version of Clark.

 

[GeneralSol16]

If Escanor's powers are based on solar energy, then he'll just amp Clark the moment he attacks him.

 

[Bossbrosish]

Thats not the same key as the ole being used.

That's a stronger and more durable version of Clark.

Either I'm missing something, but the scans I posted directly come from his resistance section on his Post-COIE key.

 

[Arkansalter2]

If Escanor's powers are based on solar energy, then he'll just amp Clark the moment he attacks him.

His mere presence is literally sun powered. He pulls the sun out of his ass with most of his attacks. So this is quite true.

 

[Bossbrosish]

Bump

 

[Majinere566]

Escanor’s cruel sun isn’t an actual sun.

I don’t see how Superman is powering up via Escanor’s sunshine when all it really does is allow him to grow stronger, generate an insane amount of heat and use fire attacks.

With that being said. First of all what are Superman’s opening moves and second of all HOLY HELL HOW MANY ESCANOR MATCHES

 

[Bossbrosish]

HOLY HELL HOW MANY ESCANOR MATCHES

Not enough I say and I'll eventually serve up more.

First of all what are Superman’s opening moves

On his standard tactics section it says: "Superman is known for holding back his immense strength due to his kind and good-hearted nature. He vows to never kill or seriously harm, and thus, almost never goes 'all out'." So he'd likely start by holding back against Escanor. I'm also assuming he'd start with physical attacks since he knows martial arts or start with his heat vision.

 

[Majinere566]

On his standard tactics section it says: "Superman is known for holding back his immense strength due to his kind and good-hearted nature. He vows to never kill or seriously harm, and thus, almost never goes 'all out'." So he'd likely start by holding back against Escanor. I'm also assuming he'd start with physical attacks since he knows martial arts or with his heat vision.

So Escanor has the AP and LS advantage. And since it’s probably gonna be a fist fight I see Escanor winning this due to his constant growth in strength until the One

 

[Bossbrosish]

So Escanor has the AP and LS advantage. And since it’s probably gonna be a fist fight I see Escanor winning this due to his constant growth in strength until the One

One/ The one ultimate is restricted. There's also the fact that Superman is usually Low 5-B and his profile says Varies. He could be stronger than Escanor if he stops holding back (Though Superman won't go to his peak 2-C since I have that restricted)

 

[speedster352]

One/ The one ultimate is restricted. There's also the fact that Superman is usually Low 5-B and his profile says Varies. He could be stronger than Escanor if he stops holding back (Though Superman won't go to his peak 2-C since I have that restricted)

Escanor does use physical attacks so I see him winning by using power physical attacks with his hands or rhitta.

 

[Bossbrosish]

Escanor does use physical attacks so I see him winning by using power physical attacks with his hands or rhitta.

That's true. I'll also contact some knowledgeable people on the DC verse page for Superman (I've only ever read the New 52)

 

[Makai641001]

Before you escanor supps start glazing Escanor.. no Escanor doesn't charcoal Supes because he survived getting legitimately thrown into the sun. The sun is literally a cool sauna to Supes.
However, Supes' laser can can focus and melt on a sub-atomic and molecular level, in which Escanor has no answer to.

Any counters to that?..

I'm going to say it. You think Escanor's sunshine would power up Superman? (And since I know someone's going to say it. No, Escanor's Sunshine won't charcoal Superman)

Reason being this:

The text box mentions the Sun's corona which is 1,000,000 K or 999726.85 degrees celsius and Superman just flew away like it was nothing.

Y’all are so cringe, you keep talking about past threads like you could actually give arguments for WB resistance.

You couldn’t even answer for 3 days straight but kept your votes.

Voting Superman, he can adapt his own AP to Escanor’s same goes for LS Escanor has no wincons.

Escanor does use physical attacks so I see him winning by using power physical attacks with his hands or rhitta.

You don’t realise how powerful sups is… Escanor has litteraly no AP/LS advantage and can’t even burn him nor resist his matter manip.

Truth is Escanor is strong in verse but ironically one of the weakest crossverse characters from NNT

 

[Estarossa0z]

Voting Superman

 

[Muteki616]

following
leaning superman.

Escanor’s cruel sun isn’t an actual sun.

is this true?

 

[Richtofen115rdg5]

Escanor hit Superman making him fly for several kilometers. Superman will be like: "Damn, this guy is strong" and manage to pull out either full strength punch that can one-shot Escanor or a lazer that can also one-shot via dura neg

Votting Superman

 

[GeneralSol16]

Escanor hit Superman making him fly for several kilometers. Superman will be like: "Damn, this guy is strong" and manage to pull out either full strength punch that can one-shot Escanor or a lazer that can also one-shot via dura neg

Votting Superman

Aside from anything, but, how would Superman one shot (even if going at full) him if his limit is behind Escamor's level?

 

[Richtofen115rdg5]

Aside from anything, but, how would Superman one shot (even if going at full) him if his limit is behind Escamor's level?

Superman always hold back because of his kind-hearted in-character, but if someone hit him hard or he notices someone can tank his hits, he'll definitely go stronger

 

[GeneralSol16]

Superman always hold back because of his kind-hearted in-character, but if someone hit him hard or he notices someone can tank his hits, he'll definitely go stronger

That doesn't apply here, his limits are on the Zettatons scale, it's not like he'd get stronger mid fight, at least not without needing to go to the sun first.

 

[Makai641001]

That doesn't apply here, his limits are on the Zettatons scale, it's not like he'd get stronger mid fight, at least not without needing to go to the sun first.

if he caps at the same tier than Escanor then we can talk, Lifting strenght wouldn’t be limited tho.

 

[Makai641001]

following
leaning superman.


is this true?

Yeah it’s true Cruel Sun is just a pseudo sun not a real one

 

[karo_senpaii]

Superman varies from low 5b to 2c. If you restrict him to low 5b then he can grow to like what 40zt or something at max? What about his LS. If you restrict that too can this match even be added?

 

[Richtofen115rdg5]

That doesn't apply here

Wdym that doesn't apply hear? It is Supes's self-statistics amplification hax, you cannot restrict it if this is not a fun and games match up. Supes will definitely go stronger no matter what

 

[Bossbrosish]

I'd also like to say that Superman would go for a killing blow. The most he'd do is try to incap Escanor.

 

[Majinere566]

I am so confused. He varies from L5B to 2C if he sees Escanor can take a hit?

 

[Bossbrosish]

I am so confused. He varies from L5B to 2C if he sees Escanor can take a hit?

Basically, Superman always subconsciously holds back to an insane degree without realizing it. If he decides someone is enough of a threat (like Doomsday), he will stop holding back and be relentless. However, peak 2-C Superman won't happen here, since it's restricted. At most, Superman would increase his strength to be close to or above Escanor, but not enough to kill him, but rather incapacitate him.

 

[Ebihara]

Basically, Superman always subconsciously holds back to an insane degree without realizing it. If he decides someone is enough of a threat (like Doomsday), he will stop holding back and be relentless. However, peak 2-C Superman won't happen here, since it's restricted. At most, Superman would increase his strength to be close to or above Escanor, but not enough to kill him, but rather incapacitate him.

scans 2 and 3 are not working for me.

 

[Bossbrosish]

scans 2 and 3 are not working for me.

Oh, it's probably your Imgur since all the links are working for me. (Happened to me before, fixed it by deleting all the cookies for it, then logging back in)

 

[Makai641001]

Just close this thread for god’s sake it’s a stomp Escanor has no win condition against someone that can amp himself to always be above him

 

[Bossbrosish]

Just close this thread for god’s sake it’s a stomp Escanor has no win condition against someone that can amp himself to always be above him

What if I changed to a different Superman? Like SnyderVerse Superman?

 

[The_Ultimate_Kokichi_Oma]

(This one is so interesting, so let's see how it plays out. A guy who's powered by the sun against a guy who wields the power of the sun. How could I not do this?)

Post-COIE Superman and Demon King Arc Near-Noon Escanor are being used. Superman can not go 2-C and Escanor has his The One/The One Ultimate restricted. Battle takes place in Metropolis starting a Kilometer apart and speed is equalized.

Superman (Post-Crisis) AP: 23 Zettatons

Near-Noon Escanor AP: 60.288 Zettatons
(2.6x AP difference in Escanor's favor)

Superman: 5 (Arkansalter2,Makai641001, Estarossa0z, MadeByZiggy (leaning Superman) Richtofen115rdg5)

Escanor: 0

Solaire of Astora beats them both (draw): 0

I don't think this is even a fair matchup , even without any sun dip he can resist reality warping and conceptual attacks at a very high-tier and his AP is just too much for him and let's not mention the immense speed gap, let me say in short This isn’t even close. Escanor’s throwing around continent-level power at best. Superman is out here punching through time and shaking multiversal threats on his normal day.
and i don't get what you mean by he can't go 2-C , 2-C is his base powers.(if you're not considering any specific year or comic)