Superman vs. Thor

[The_Wright_Way]

Both at 4-B.

Speed Equalized.


vs.

A true Hero

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Superman in a decent fight.

At their high ends,

BRB + Thor Calc = 5.525e46.joules or 2.7625e46 joules for Thor, at the high end, or 276 Foe. Thor also has a 294.5 foe calc.

Superman's calc from Cal = 5.6548526984352e+46 joules (High end), or 3.926981040579868e+46 joules (Mid end), or 565 to 392 foe, with 1.08 Kilofoe being his maximum power with IMP


God Blast is an issue, but I don't feel Thor will go for it before Superman defeats him. Superman is resistant to most if not all of Superman's hax, and while Thor is more skilled, the gap isn't by an uncomparable margin.


Superman wins 7-8/10

 

[Schnee_One]

Supes FRA

 

[Js250476]

Superman via comparable to greater stats, skill and resistance to most of Thor's hax

 

[Graf_Thorsdottir]

Not casting vote yet, but to translate their AP to simpler terms, Thor is 6.6 kiloFoe, Supe is 6.96 kiloFoe

I remember back then Matt said Thor had the hax advantage, actually

 

[Huesito88]

doesn't superman scale to flash

 

[Graf_Thorsdottir]

nah fam. He has his own feat. I remember him being stronger than Flash anyway, rite?

 

[Huesito88]

yeah that's why he scales to the 0.6 megafoe feat?

 

[Graf_Thorsdottir]

Nah that calc has 2 end. We agreed on the low-end of kiloFoe, I think. Since it's more consistent with Supe's Solar System pushing (6.96 kiloFoe) and this one (1.02 kiloFoe).

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Not casting vote yet, but to translate their AP to simpler terms, Thor is 6.6 kiloFoe, Supe is 6.96 kiloFoe
I remember back then Matt said Thor had the hax advantage, actually

Thor's feat isn't 6.6 Kilofoe. The 13 Kilofoe feat isn't even a thing. It was actually 550 Foe

Meanwhile, for Superman it was just in the comments. That wasn't the calc accepted afaik

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Nah that calc has 2 end. We agreed on the low-end of kiloFoe, I think. Since it's more consistent with Supe's Solar System pushing (6.96 kiloFoe) and this one (1.02 kiloFoe).

His SS Pushing's high end calc was for like 500 foe

 

[Js250476]

It did tho diving in by 2 gives Thor 6 KiloFOE. Not sure where 550 foe is from

 

[Huesito88]

@Graf I know the calc had two ends, but I thought that megafoe one was accepted, I swear some people commented on vs threads saying it was =P

 

[Graf_Thorsdottir]

... Are we even looking at the same calcs? You are the first one that questioned Marvel and DC's numerical AP for 4-B

 

[BruceTheBatman]

It did tho diving in by 2 gives Thor 6 KiloFOE. Not sure where 550 foe is from

Looking on Thor's page, none of the calcs are 6 kilofoe.

It was an estimation. Superman's calc for the pushing feat was 5.6548526984352e+46 joules (High end), or about 565 foe

 

[BruceTheBatman]

... Are we even looking at the same calcs? You are the first one that questioned Marvel and DC's numerical AP for 4-B

6.9 Kilofoe wasn't accepted or even really talked about. It was just an alternate calc that Darkanine posted that is inconsistent since IMP is Superman's strongest attack iirc. The actual high end for the calc was 565 foe

 

[Graf_Thorsdottir]

welp, better bring the expert here then :\

 

[Schnee_One]

<The Expert

<Matthew and Not Everlasting

I get Ever's pain....

 

[Graf_Thorsdottir]

I'm sorry ;_;

 

[Graf_Thorsdottir]

Hey Gar, you think we should bring the experts into this thread or make an entire AP CRT for the 4-Bs scaling from Thor and Supes?

 

[Schnee_One]

\_(-_-)_/

 

[LordUrien935]

Superman due to superior feats overall, however it's after a pretty hard fight.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Superman due to superior feats overall, however it's after a pretty hard fight.

You need better reasoning.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Bump.

 

[Lord_Hades_Prince_Of_Darkness]

So what is the difference in attack potency between the two.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Thor is 6.6 kilofoe while Superman is 615 kilofoe, that's a little over a 93 times gap between the two is is more than enough for Superman to one shot Thor.

 

[BruceTheBatman]

Thor is 6.6 kilofoe while Superman is 615 kilofoe, that's a little over a 93 times gap between the two is is more than enough for Superman to one shot Thor.

Thor is not 6.6 Kilofoe (It's honestly an outlier, given how consistent I've seen 100s of Foe Thor to be at the High End) and Superman's 615 kilofoe calc was rejected (the 1.08 kilofoe is what we use)

 

[BruceTheBatman]

So what is the difference in attack potency between the two.

Read above

 

[Hellbeast1]

Supes for potentially Higher AP, skill and can resist most if not all of Thor's hax (which he rarely uses anyway so moot point)

 

[Tony_Stark69]

Which of version of Superman it is?

 

[Tony_Stark69]

That's the Post-Crisis Superman and he will badly lose to Thor.

Thor would simply drain Superman's life energy or will absorb the yellow Sun radiation from his cells making him weak.

 

[Lord_Hades_Prince_Of_Darkness]

Would warriors madness close the gap up in attack potency for Thor?

 

[Hellbeast1]

@Tony Tell me when has Thor used that ability?

 

[Tony_Stark69]

Here,

Here, Thor absorbs energy from a celestial

Thor absorbs energy from a Celestial

 

[Tony_Stark69]

@Lord Hades Prince Of Darkness: Yes, in Warrior Madness mode Thor become 10 times powerful than his Base Form.

 

[Tony_Stark69]

@Hellbeast1: In terms of Durability too, Thor is superior to Post-Crisis Superman.

Proof: Base Thor tanks a blast from an angry beyonder or an Ivory King , he didn't showed any signs of damages later and starts to fight again


Note: Three Ivory Kings or Beyonders were powerful enough to kill The Living Tribunal himself.

Thor tanks a blast from an angry beyonder

 

[Hellbeast1]

The Beyonder durability thing is quite an obvious Outlier though i can see the Thor amps combined with his Absorption make this fight hard as hell for Supes.

 

[Tony_Stark69]

The Beyonder durability thing is quite an obvious Outlier though i can see the Thor amps combined with his Absorption make this fight hard as hell for Supes.

No I would say, surviving a blast from a Beyonder is not an Outlier because he has survived attacks from Galactus and Celestials before.

 

[Hellbeast1]

There's a large difference between Galactic to Universal feats and Hyperversal feats. And thats ignoring the fact all the feats you mention are far higher then pretty much all his feats.

 

[Lord_Hades_Prince_Of_Darkness]

Since Thor's attacks are magic based, wouldn't his attacks do more damage to Superman?