Technical Upgrade for Pokemon top tiers

[The_real_cal_howard]

This goes for everyone upwards of Mega Mewtwo

Mega Mewtwo fights on par with Zygarde, who has absorbed Xerneas and Yveltal.

Xerneas alone is 717 ZT by existing. So Mega Mewtwo, who fought against the literal combined might, should be 3x that, which would put him in the + range of the tier. Everyone upwards of that as well.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Wrooong board

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'm ashamed of myself.

 

[LordGriffin1000]

This seems ok.

 

[Elizhaa]

Look fine

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bump

 

[NeoZex6399]

seems reasonable

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Alright then

 

[GyroNutz]

While we're at it, shouldn't Solgaleo, Lunala and Necrozma be 5-B+ for being 4x the UB which are comparable to Zygarde which is a bit below Xerneas?

 

[Arceus0x]

everything above me and the actual upgrade seem reasonable.

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

I have permission to can update profiles now?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Sure

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

All right then, I'll start now.

 

[GyroNutz]

While we're at it, shouldn't Solgaleo, Lunala and Necrozma be 5-B+ for being 4x the UB which are comparable to Zygarde which is a bit below Xerneas?

Is everyone ok with this?

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

In fact the UB's are only comparable to normal Zygarde 50% and not when it's absorbed Xerneas and Yveltal

 

[GyroNutz]

Yeah, but Solgaleo took on all four Tapus which are = UBs

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Well, I think Solgaleo, Lunala and Necrozma in it's weakest form should scale to Pokémon that are superior to 2.1 Yottatons and Necrozma in their cast forms to Solgaleo or Lunala and Ultra Necrozma must be 5-A

 

[GyroNutz]

Quick question, what was the reason that we decided to not scale Zygarde's speed to the UBs?

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Because UB's already have a much better speed talent than Zygarde, they can go through countless light-years in seconds

 

[GyroNutz]

Yeah, but why don't we scale Zygarde to them?

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Well, I do not know either, but one of us is going to have to do a CRT on scaling the UB's speed to the High-End 5-B and 5-A Baseline Legendary Pokémon

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I don't think anyone should be 5-A, tbh. I don't like bumping up Tiers with multipliers. They should just be super high into 5-B, like Madoka or that Masadaverse dude.

 

[Elizhaa]

I agree with Cal's points

 

[Enryu_The_Red_Tower]

Well, except that the multipliers that we applied in Pokémon already exist for at least a few months, and also Zygarde when fused to Xerneas and Yveltal it's AP is 2.1 Yotattons just existing, and only one member of the Aura Trio can cause an event of 717 Zettatons near death, so some Pokémon being 5-A makes sense

Incidentally, can not we scale the speed of UB's, Light Trio and Zeraora to other legendaries and mythical Pokémon that are High End 5-B or Baseline 5-A?

And @cal, could you give us a hint as to what the AP of the UB's would be, Legendaries and Mythicals of Alola would have? Since they clearly scale to 717 Zettatons since Zygarde was forced to leave Kalos and as the Xerneas feat is super casual I would not doubt with the Zygarde AP 50% normal being above 717 Zettatons

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

They're anywhere between Zygarde (50%) and the literal top of the food chain.