The Assassin vs The Convict

[BakiHanma18]

2-2 tie

 

[Suenoangela]

Yanagi for reasons above

 

[BakiHanma18]

3-2 in Yanagi's favor

 

[Schnee_One]

Achilles just seems to have more overall between poison resistance and AP

 

[BakiHanma18]

3-3 back to a tie (?)

 

[SpookyShadow]

Achilles just seems to have more overall between poison resistance and AP

50x AP difference, so

 

[BakiHanma18]

Basically, as this is panning out in my mind with the current argumentation, on Achilles's side of things, he's a skilled combatant that could basically oneshot by sneezing on Yanagi, and he leads with pistols, giving him range advantage, only resorting to swordplay as a last resort. On Yanagi's side, he has the skill advantage, which helps counter Achilles's AP advantage to a degree (less likely to be hit), he has Benda to negate durability and eat away at Achilles's pain tolernace, Poison Hand to slowly eat away at Achilles. Achilles resists Poison, which gives him more time to deliver that 1 golden hit to kill Yanagi, but on the other side of things, the longer Achilles takes to get that hit, the less likely it'll be, what with him getting both his vitality diminished via Poison and his pain tolerance diminished via Benda. Finally, Vacuum Palm, the riskiest move of this fight. Achilles is wise, so the arguement could be made that he's wise enough to ignore Yanagi and take his shot, killing Yanagi (though he'd have no way of knowing one hit would be the end of it), but the argument could equally be made that Achilles is wise enough to listen. Yanagi might be about to give away an important detail about his power or motives or whatever the case, making the ever cautious Achilles keep his guard up, but listen for a detail to allow him to exploit a weakness. Yanagi, finishing his shpeel, gets closer, at which point Achilles would either try to put a bullet in him if he had ammunition left or cleave him in 2 if not, giving Yanagi the chance to dodge in and oneshot. I believe this would likely only play out this way if Yanagi infects Achilles with his Poison Hand and Achilles realizes he's been poisoned, as if Yanagi starts talking about "The Most Poisonous Gas", Achilles may come to the conclusion that Yanagi poisoned him and that if he gets enough information about the poison, he can retreat somewhere into Sanctuary to hide, synthesize an antidote, and use his stealth mastery to ambush Yanagi, not only getting rid of his disadvantage, but gaining an advantage in the process.

 

[Schnee_One]

Yeah Range and Stealth are huge pluses as well with that AP gap

 

[BakiHanma18]

Yeah Range and Stealth are huge pluses as well with that AP gap

Right, if Achilles manages to slip away and hit Yanagi just once, or he manages to land a well, placed shot, Yanagi's as good as done for

 

[Suenoangela]

If they start far enough where Achilles can use guns then I'll change my vote to him if not I'll stay where I am

 

[BakiHanma18]

If they start far enough where Achilles can use guns then I'll change my vote to him if not I'll stay where I am

5 feet* as it says in the OP. Far enough apart that guns could be used, but close enough that either man could close the distance almost instantly considering their speed. Also, remember that gunplay was addressed prior by user @Amlad22

edit*

 

[KLOL506]

OP says five feet tho, might wanna edit that in.

 

[BakiHanma18]

OP says five feet tho, might wanna edit that in.

My bad, meant feet XD

 

[Suenoangela]

At that distance yanagi can easily aim dodge even with 50x ap advantage the Benda whip would **** up Achilles considering he doesn't as good of a pain tolerance as Baki and Yanagi

 

[Suenoangela]

Oh and also the skill gap and the fact that Yanagi's poison is able to hurt and slow down Baki, who I presume has a better resistance to poison than Achilles feel free to correct me tho

 

[BakiHanma18]

Baki doesn't have poison resistance currently, though considering what we are told and shown about Yanagi's poison and the fact that Baki isnt a puddle of meat, bones, and death shortly after fighting Yanagi, that might be revised

 

[Suenoangela]

so does my point still stand?

 

[BakiHanma18]

Yes, I believe so

 

[Suenoangela]

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