Improbbility drive and dissonance crap.
kill and kill and kill. spawn so many minions it'd overwhelm people double the skill of all three of them combined, shit talk, drag them into The Auditor's hell and weaponize the realm itself against them, outlast them through sheer stamina.
Any way to permanently kill Gang or Player?
Depends on how we treat the immortality here.
From what I know, both Tricky’s (or at least part of it) and Kris’ is type 8, which neither have a way to negate.
Yes but does the player need to be in range of kris to bring them back? Hell exists on a higher plane of existence even to the player due to cosmology bullshit, so if kris is there can they come back?
Actually, I think you might be onto something.
True Reset would just reset everything back, and we again would start with full Fun Gang. (Lion doesn't concern with fate of Kris version, who will be remain stuck in hell).
So, matchup is invalid either way.
"With this treasure, I summon..."
So like do the bodies just start stacking up in hell after a while lmao???
Most likely yeah.
Kris has SOUL in the chest, not the Player(who watches Deltarune from above)
Yeah
That was never in question. Tricky would actively make it easier on them if he starts killing them too easily. Tricky wants this fight to be difficult for him and will actively hold back to some extents to make it more entertaining for himself, he did it a few times from purposefully making his aim worse when shooting at sanford to giving Sanford weaponry so he could fight back against his minions.
wrong entity. we aren't talking about the soul, we're talking about the entity which sees deltarune as a game which is the stand in representing YOU the player at their computer. (same thing to some extent but a seperation has been sort of implied throughout deltarune between you controlling the soul and you being you at the computer) Hell exists on a higher dimension than even it, which is why i asked about the range.
Except the actual “killing Tricky” part, which they have NO way of doing.
So... do the Delta Warriors have any way to win or
No. It’s why I said it’s either a hard stomp for Tricky or if you SOMEHOW stick to the arguement that the Player can bring them all back, an incon.
So what constitutes playing cards right?
I’d assume it’s them convincing the Auditor to give them the same amp they gave Hank.
"No characters of either verse, aside from those participating in the battle, may influence the outcome of the battle in any way." The Auditor is present by default and is apart of Tricky's standard equipment due to his control over the dimension. It would be Tricky's own powers being used against him, not outside help.
They'd just have to convince the auditor to give a bunch of teenagers the power of god.
No he’s not??? The Auditor is nowhere to be seen as Tricky’s standard equipment in this key. The HALO is, but not the Auditor himself.
Hell is the auditor. If the dimension is present so is he. You can't have it one way or the other. It's a two package deal for Tricky.
Ah shoot, I forgot the specific Hell here is the Auditor’s.
Exactly. So their one wincon is to use Tricky's source of unimaginable power against him.
I mean, WHY would the Fun Gang even know to look out for the Auditor in the first place? Why would the Fun Gang know that the Auditor can give them the Immortality Negation for this God-like Clown??
you wouldn't imagine it. He was a very overlooked aspect. Originally that key had a weakness that if he was put into the crack in hell he instantly died. This key has been worked on many times and has been in far worse shape in the past.
yeah it requires them to figure out A LOT about the clown for this to work, which is why the wincon has like a one in a million chance to happen.
Fun gang has SI.
Yeah they can try but they're still going to be basically begging an overseeing deity that's obsessed with order into giving teenagers his power, and that's all assuming y'know they knew about the auditor in the first place which isn't the case obviously so it doesn't matter.
If a wincon only works in super mega ultra hyperspecific situations, and has THAT little of a chance to happen then it’s not a proper wincon.
No that just makes it a very stupid one. The fact they don't know about the auditor is the only reason i'm not calling it a real wincon. if they knew about the auditor it's a 100% feasible wincon especially if The Auditor is desperate enough to get rid of Tricky.
That too. idk how much info check really gives, especially with something as specific as needing the auditor to incinerate tricky.
