The Noble Hero vs The Dark King (Leomon vs Demigra)

[Omegabronic]

...........vs.......

"Your evil power is too great, if you are to roam free countless lives will suffer, i won't allow it, your Darkness must be destroyed for the sake of everyone, prepared yourself demon"

"Foolish warrior, not only have I become the Dark King, but now I am also a God with the Power of Time, you'll be destroyed across eternity for trying to stand against me"

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The Noble Hero, Leomon, who once stood against the messenger of Darkness, Devimon, now hears of another Darkness trying to reshape creation, the Dark King with the power over time, Demigra, even against such an overwhelming opponent, the King of Beasts stands his ground, unable to stand and do nothing against such evil, the Demon God of Time finds the warrior foolish to stand against him, finding it amusing at best, the two warriors now stand against each other, ready to confront each other for the fate of creation

• Leomon is in his "Leomon X" key and Demigra is in his "Ultra God Mission" key and starts in his Time Power Unleashed state
• Leomon knows how to use Holy Power
• Demigra has access to the Key Sword
• Speed in equalized
• Starting distance is 30 Meters

The Beast Gladiator:
The Dark Wizard:
Inconclusive: 3 (Omegabronic, AuraMugen, MaskedDragon908 )

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

What are Leomon's typical starting moves? And which of his abilities save him from immediate vaporization?

 

[Omegabronic]

What are Leomon's typical starting moves? And which of his abilities save him from immediate vaporization?

Starting move will be attacking with Juoken(energy blast the shape of a lion) and physical moves
Both of which have Data Manipulation effects

As for him staying alive, High-Godly regen/ressurection from both Holy Power and X-Antibody

What would Demigra's starting moves be? After that we can start talking Wincons and whatnot

 

[CryoTheMayo]

What would Demigra's starting moves be? After that we can start talking Wincons and whatnot

As far as I know, cosmology nuke.

 

[Omegabronic]

As far as I know, cosmology nuke.

If he does that Lemon might just snap into "i'mma kill you" mode and go for Holy Power straight up

Does he do that via a big blast or something?

 

[Killerdrone123]

In his tpu state he starts with cosmology nuke via EE

 

[Omegabronic]

In his tpu state he starts with cosmology nuke via EE

Leomon resists that

Does Demigra resists Matter manip?

 

[Killerdrone123]

Leomon resists that

Does Demigra resists Matter manip?

Imo it also comes with infinite 6d A.p to cause of Chaotic gigentes plus has 6d space time ee (Wouldn't Leomon have smurf haxs or that's not the case)

Is Lemon HGR resurrection layered cause Chaotic gigentes has t.p in it and which has layered resurrection negation

Yeah via chaos ball

 

[Omegabronic]

Imo it also comes with infinite 6d A.p to cause of Chaotic gigentes plus has 6d space time ee (Wouldn't Leomon have smurf haxs or that's not the case)

I see, and yes Lemon does have Smurf hax, Data hax is smurf in everything... outside of you know, fundamental aspects which can't be smurf until 1-A

However he prefers to actually fight instead as he is much more of the "warrior type", he will prefer to try and fight before trying going for the crazy haxes, but i have to say that at least the Deconstruction and Matter manip happen on contact against non Digital Beings at the very least

Is Lemon HGR resurrection layered cause Chaotic gigentes has t.p in it and which has layered resurrection negation

Yep, 8 Layers and he also has Reactive Evolution in case it isn't enough

Yeah via chaos ball

Is it Quantum level? Cuz that's the level Data has it at

 

[Killerdrone123]

I see, and yes Lemon does have Smurf hax, Data hax is smurf in everything... outside of you know, fundamental aspects which can't be smurf until 1-A

However he prefers to actually fight instead as he is much more of the "warrior type", he will prefer to try and fight before trying going for the crazy haxes, but i have to say that at least the Deconstruction and Matter manip happen on contact against non Digital Beings at the very least

Ah

Yep, 8 Layers and he also has Reactive Evolution in case it isn't enough


Is it Quantum level? Cuz that's the level Data has it at

I mean demigra also has them at 8 layers plus all of his passive stats hax stuff and stus effect inducement

I genuinely find it difficult how to label RE in matchups but wouldn't this case fall into him needing an extra layers of resurrection negation to overcome 8 layers i don't beleive RE can be used to say that

 

[Omegabronic]

I mean demigra also has them at 8 layers plus all of his passive stats hax stuff and stus effect inducement

True... not that stats matter much given that Demigra already one shots anyway via... anything

And Leomon can use Holy Power to get rid of status effects... altho again, wouldn't resort to at first, warrior type dude, would prob use it late after dying a few times

I genuinely find it difficult how to label RE in matchups but wouldn't this case fall into him needing an extra layers of resurrection negation to overcome 8 layers i don't beleive RE can be used to say that

Nah, if you have 8 Layers of a Hax, you need 8 Layers of resistance to resist it, and X-Antibody carriers evolved to get the X-Antibody/resist Ressurection negation after they were erased, then came back, so imo it should work here by what it has shown to do

from what i can see from the Time Power page, Leomon doesn't resist the BFR to other time periods, so if Demigra chooses he can do that to win, meanwhile Leomon can win by hitting him once via Deconstruction + Data Absorption(10-D Smurf hax) or via using Holy Power to purify or erase Demigra(Altho this latter is kind of out of character for Leomon, after a BUNCH of deaths he should realize he needs to do it, but meh)

It all comes down to who get's tired of the back and forth and brings up the wincon first(Demigra Temporal BFR vs Leomon hitting him once or using Holy Power)

... it is looking like an Inconclusive to me tbh... although, maybe there's some Demigra stuff i am not realizing

Edit: I'll be voting inconclusive for now

 

[Omegabronic]

True... not that stats matter much given that Demigra already one shots anyway via... anything

And Leomon can use Holy Power to get rid of status effects... altho again, wouldn't resort to at first, warrior type dude, would prob use it late after dying a few times


Nah, if you have 8 Layers of a Hax, you need 8 Layers of resistance to resist it, and X-Antibody carriers evolved to get the X-Antibody/resist Ressurection negation after they were erased, then came back, so imo it should work here by what it has shown to do

from what i can see from the Time Power page, Leomon doesn't resist the BFR to other time periods, so if Demigra chooses he can do that to win, meanwhile Leomon can win by hitting him once via Deconstruction + Data Absorption(10-D Smurf hax) or via using Holy Power to purify or erase Demigra(Altho this latter is kind of out of character for Leomon, after a BUNCH of deaths he should realize he needs to do it, but meh)

It all comes down to who get's tired of the back and forth and brings up the wincon first(Demigra Temporal BFR vs Leomon hitting him once or using Holy Power)

... it is looking like an Inconclusive to me tbh... although, maybe there's some Demigra stuff i am not realizing

Forgot to mention, since Leomon is part of the Virtus Busters and is a Vaccine Digimon, he is more likely to use Holy Power against Evil beings than he would be otherwise, still wouldn't be his first move as he prefers to fight head on still

 

[Shar122]

Demigra starts with cosmology nuke EE In his EE form plus with UES it deals infinite 6D AP power.

And also can't Demgra just absorb his abilities and powers from him, and also use it? Like here, does Leomon have answer to that?, BFR + Sealing is nasty as well.
Thought based/Active EE and Passive EE (via passive energy aura)

Demigra have a lot of passives as well

Power Modification (Demigra can switch the Attack Power of himself and his allies with that of his enemies[4])
Enhanced Stamina Reduction (Can passively steal and reduce the opponents stamina to 1[10])
Enhanced Status Effect Inducement (Paralysis; With his Stunning o ability, Demigra can passively deal great stamina damage and stun his opponents, making them unable to fight[11])

Statistics Manipulation (Can passively increase his stats.[13] Can actively steal his opponent's statistics[13])
Enchanced Damage Reduction (Can passively halve the oncoming damage[13])
Damage Manipulation (Can passively boost his damage.[13] Can passively reduce his opponent's damage[13])
Enhanced Power Modification (Can actively reduce the effect of his opponent damage boost ability[13])
Enhanced Stamina Reduction (Dimensional Domain passively reduces the opponent's stamina to the bare minimum[22])
More Summoning (Can summon the Dark Demon God Hero Avatars[13] and Tokitoki[13])

 

[Omegabronic]

Demigra starts with cosmology nuke EE In his EE form plus with UES it deals infinite 6D AP power.

As said above, Leomon has High Godly resurection to come back from that, and he resists and can Reactively Evolve against Negation of it

And also can't Demgra just absorb his abilities and powers from him, and also use it? Like here, does Leomon have answer to that?

That seems to be talking about "power" as in, strength, the profile lists that as Stats manipulation and not Power Absorption, so he wouldn't be stealing the abilities from Leomon here

Besides that, Leomon resists Power Absorption

BFR + Sealing is nasty as well.

Leomon resists both, he only doesn't resist the BFR to other time periods

Thought based/Active EE and Passive EE (via passive energy aura fleTokitoki

Leomon resists EE, so he's safe from that

Demigra have a lot of passives as well

Power Modification (Demigra can switch the Attack Power of himself and his allies with that of his enemies[4])
Enhanced Stamina Reduction (Can passively steal and reduce the opponents stamina to 1[10])
Enhanced Status Effect Inducement (Paralysis; With his Stunning o ability, Demigra can passively deal great stamina damage and stun his opponents, making them unable to fight[11])

Statistics Manipulation (Can passively increase his stats.[13] Can actively steal his opponent's statistics[13])
Enchanced Damage Reduction (Can passively halve the oncoming damage[13])
Damage Manipulation (Can passively boost his damage.[13] Can passively reduce his opponent's damage[13])
Enhanced Power Modification (Can actively reduce the effect of his opponent damage boost ability[13])
Enhanced Stamina Reduction (Dimensional Domain passively reduces the opponent's stamina to the bare minimum[22])
More Summoning (Can summon the Dark Demon God Hero Avatars[13] and Tokitoki[13])

Any passive that steals or swicthes the Attack Power of Leomon and Demigra is... worthless, as Leomon is several infinities bellow Demigra, so if anything switching it would make Demigra be in the backfoot here, and Leomon can't harm him with AP so lowering it also does nothing

As for the Stamina, all of Leomon's functions as an organism are made through his Digicore(The Soul/Mind/Data), which is protected by his Wireframe and prevents outside influence, so that shouldn't work either unless Demigra breaks the wireframe to access it... and since every attack would kill Leomon, that wouldn't apply here as he would be dead anyway, plus Digimon naturally don't need to eat nor feel fatigue, so i don't think this would apply regardless

My thoughts on the wincons of both are here btw

from what i can see from the Time Power page, Leomon doesn't resist the BFR to other time periods, so if Demigra chooses he can do that to win, meanwhile Leomon can win by hitting him once via Deconstruction + Data Absorption(10-D Smurf hax) or via using Holy Power to purify or erase Demigra(Altho this latter is kind of out of character for Leomon, after a BUNCH of deaths he should realize he needs to do it, but meh)

It all comes down to who get's tired of the back and forth and brings up the wincon first(Demigra Temporal BFR vs Leomon hitting him once or using Holy Power)

... it is looking like an Inconclusive to me tbh... although, maybe there's some Demigra stuff i am not realizing

Edit: I'll be voting inconclusive for now

 

[AuraMugen]

Well, stats reduction and stealing doesn't matter here, because Leomon X scales much lower in terms of AP anyway. But BFR can be issue depending on the range.

Leomon X does have quantum level data hax (10D) in his special moves, regardless of stats. And holy power of same potency (he in character won't use hax, unless it's a last resort).

Also, Leomon X, as an X-Antibody Digimon, resists EE on 10D scale (they can resist Yggy's erasure program)

 

[Omegabronic]

bump

 

[AuraMugen]

Going for incon

 

[Omegabronic]

bump

 

[MaskedDragon908]

Leomon has the feats to evolve against Demigra's abilities, and Demigra still has a win condition.
There isn't much Masked can say about this matchup that hasn't already been said, so

Inconclusive FRA.

 

[Omegabronic]

Bump

 

[Omegabronic]

Bump

 

[Omegabronic]

Bump

 

[GAGGamerTheOverlord]

If Leomon X prefers to go physically before any attack that a wincon could give him, he could vote for Demigra

 

[GAGGamerTheOverlord]

bump

 

[Omegabronic]

Bump

 

[Omegabronic]

If Leomon X prefers to go physically before any attack that a wincon could give him, he could vote for Demigra

Juoken is his special attack, so he would go for it, specially if Demigra kills him quickly

 

[GAGGamerTheOverlord]

Juoken is his special attack, so he would go for it, specially if Demigra kills him quickly

What can Leomon do against this? Demigra does it as a second movement. Well joking aside, it can be incon