The Quincy King vs The Master of Mankind (Yhwach vs The Emperor) (Bleach vs Warhammer 40k) (0-1-0)

[Jin2188]

• Battle takes place in the Lupercal Court (Yhwach will take the place of Horus).
• Operation Anabasis Emperor and Soul King Absorbed Yhwach will be used.
• Speed is not equalized.
• The Emperor has access to all his Scaled Psychic Powers on his profile.
• Yhwach has full access to all the Sternritter's Schrifts.

The Quincy King:
The Master of Mankind: @DaReaperMan
Incon:

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yhwach when Emprah literally looks at him wrong, pictured below.

Yeah The Emperor of Mankind has 1-A hax. On all of his shit. And passive precog. And resists everything Yhwach has to a 1-A degree. Did I mention the majority of psyker powers are thought or gesture-based?

Not even getting into the fact Yhwach is horrifically outskilled, the Emperor's Sword is blatantly overpowered as ****, and the place they're fighting in probably instantly corrupts Yhwach anyways.

This man is #2 on 8-B, 4-B, and High 3-A for a reason, and that reason is he's got 1-A hax, resistances, and everything he needs to use them.

 

[TegamiBachi25]

Yhwach when Emprah literally looks at him wrong, pictured below.

Yeah The Emperor of Mankind has 1-A hax. On all of his shit. And passive precog. And resists everything Yhwach has to a 1-A degree. Did I mention the majority of psyker powers are thought or gesture-based?

Not even getting into the fact Yhwach is horrifically outskilled, the Emperor's Sword is blatantly overpowered as ****, and the place they're fighting in probably instantly corrupts Yhwach anyways.

This man is #2 on 8-B, 4-B, and High 3-A for a reason, and that reason is he's got 1-A hax, resistances, and everything he needs to use them.

Warhammer hax/resistances are so broken and dumb...

 

[DaReaperMan]

Warhammer hax/resistances are so broken and dumb...

How to use Warhammer characters: Avoid the ******* casters for the most part.

1-A hax starts at Ahriman and Daemon Primarchs, so it's not as bad as Fantasy, but versatility is a helluva thing for those whom are not on Ahriman's level

 

[Jin2188]

Yhwach when Emprah literally looks at him wrong, pictured below.

Yeah The Emperor of Mankind has 1-A hax. On all of his shit. And passive precog. And resists everything Yhwach has to a 1-A degree. Did I mention the majority of psyker powers are thought or gesture-based?

Not even getting into the fact Yhwach is horrifically outskilled, the Emperor's Sword is blatantly overpowered as ****, and the place they're fighting in probably instantly corrupts Yhwach anyways.

This man is #2 on 8-B, 4-B, and High 3-A for a reason, and that reason is he's got 1-A hax, resistances, and everything he needs to use them.

Emps is only 1-A in the Warp, and only so because of worship and the Eye of Terror.

As stated on the page:

Stated to be vastly stronger than before thanks to worship as well as the opening of the Great Rift

He was also weaker than Horus, and by no small margin either, who is not 1-A on any of his keys on his profile.

Horus' power is stated to be infinite compared to the Emperor's finite power.

Idk, seems like a pretty hefty anti-feat to me.

You might be right though, I don't know all the hax, but I do know Yhwach has access to the Visionary, which might help him out.

I'll put you down as voting for Emps.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Emps is only 1-A in the Warp, and only so because of worship and the Eye of Terror.

As stated on the page:

Mate. I said 1-A HAX. as in his ABILITIES are 1-A in terms of hax potency. So are Horus' abilities, at that.

Bleach's cosmology doesn't even break into tier 1, let alone actually having smurfery 3 layers into 1-A.

He was also weaker than Horus, and by no small margin either, who is not 1-A on any of his keys on his profile.

Idk, seems like a pretty hefty anti-feat to me.

Which is physicals. Not hax. If you want to downgrade his hax, make a CRT on the matter.

You might be right though, I don't know all the hax, but I do know Yhwach has access to the Visionary, which might help him out.

This is one of those matters I know I'm right on. Like, Emprah literally is The second strongest 4-B and High 3-A on the site period. Get Yhwach past some Chinamen before dealing with Emprah.

I'll put you down as voting for Emps.

It's a stomp, can't be added.

This is a coughing baby vs Nuclear Bomb moment, and there's a reason most people don't want to deal with Warhammer's BS

 

[Jin2188]

Mate. I said 1-A HAX. as in his ABILITIES are 1-A in terms of hax potency. So are Horus' abilities, at that.

From Horus's profile:

4-B, possibly High 3-A physically, Up to High 1-B with psychic powers

High 1-B with psychic powers, aka hax. The Emperor's psychic powers are also mentioned in his stats, although a specific tier is not given.

Also, if I may ask, and sorry if I sound stupid for this, what exactly makes their hax 1-A? His powers just coming from the Warp isn't enough to justify that. This is a genuine question, so go easy on me, but if Emps's hax really is 1-A, then his profile needs to be updated to reflect that.

 

[DaReaperMan]

From Horus's profile:

High 1-B with psychic powers, aka hax. The Emperor's psychic powers are also mentioned in his stats, although a specific tier is not given.

Having an AP value doesn't make it not 1-A in hax. That's just something Horus did that's High 1-B in AP.

Tier has no impact on Hax. Attack Potency has no impact on Hax. Every single section on every page except for PnA and sometimes Weaknesses/Range has no impact on Hax. The Emperor has had 1-A hax, and has been accepted to have 1-A hax since the 2010s. Make a CRT and downgrade that if you feel otherwise... in fact, from The Emperor's profile in range: up to Outerversal with psychic powers (His psychic might is said to envelop the entire galaxy. Capable of casting objects into the Warp)

Hax is like one-shot mechanics: it does not care what you like.

Also, if I may ask, and sorry if I sound stupid for this, what exactly makes their hax 1-A? His powers just coming from the Warp isn't enough to justify that. This is a genuine question, so go easy on me, but if Emps's hax really is 1-A, then his profile needs to be updated to reflect that.

You realize The Emperor burned Nurgle's Garden through Guilliman/Mortarian, right? You realize even Ahriman is pulling out 1-A hax and precog, right? You don't hax Ynnead and say "Nah, this guy has 3-D hax".

Every time a Psyker opens a portal to the warp, that's 1-A hax. Every time someone ***** with the Webway, that's 1-A hax. You do NOT need to have 1-A Attack Potency to have 1-A hax. The Emperor is what we call a smurf. If you dislike this notion, tough. Be glad we're not in Warhammer Fantasy where you have to ask someone if a character is an overall 1-A smurf or not. There's 5 non-daemon gigasmurfs for 40K.