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Now that the forum move seems to be (mostly, anyway) complete, it's about time I start working on TWEWY. First off though, we need to fix our protagonist's page. Quite a few problems that weren't dealt with. Let's see what needs Erasure, and what might need to be added (I'll be getting back into playing TWEWY to confirm anything).
Soul Manipulation, Summoning: I notice this isn't on his profile. Neku can summon Rhyme's Noise form to attack opponents. Summoning of Noise is done through binding Soul to a pin, which should give some form of Soul Manipulation.
Imprinting: "(Can imprint orders and ideas into other people's minds to force them to take a decision he wants them to)." That is completely false. All Imprinting (page is a stub sadly) does is influence people struggling to make a decision; something like a burst of inspiration. For example, Shiki Day 5 presents a secret Meme (option for imprinting) of Slam-Off Tickets, which is the secret Mina's keeping that starts the whole situation (seen here). Even if you use this to Imprint, Mina will refuse to show the tickets. Showing it to Ai does no good either.
My suggested change is to, for one, put Imprinting under Mind Manipulation. Sending ideas into someone's head should fall under that. Second, the justification should be "Can send Memes, or ideas relating to his mission, into someone's head to influence a decision".
Status Effects: Somehow still not in his Powers and Abilities. Status effects include Attack Down, Defense Down, Immobilization, and HP Drain (which is actually just poison damage). Certain pins can inflict this at the start of battle. He should also have a resistance to some of these effects through wearing threads.
Hanekoma/Panthera Cantus: "Traded blows and even bested Hanekoma the Fallen Angel, a being from the Higher Plane who is even stronger than the Composer, though he didn't seem to be going all out in his battle against Neku" A few things wrong with this...
1) Panthera Cantus is probably not stronger than the Composer. The justification from this probably comes from his description of "Hanekoma's Noise form. This ultimate existence, both lion and tiger, demands your full force!", which could just allude to the fact that it's the superboss of TWEWY. Even then, if Hanekoma is holding back his power, then that shouldn't be usable to justify stats. That would mean this "suppressed power" is "somewhere" less than Neku's and Hanekoma's own power, but we don't exactly have numbers giving anything real to go by.
2) The events of Another Day aren't canon. Yeah, Joshua does hide away in a parallel world and Hanekoma does follow him there (both mentioned in secret reports), but that's about it. The description says "On a certain day, at a certain time, in a different world...this, like totally really happened.", which seems to imply the day in fact did not happen. There are also problems concerning Reapers shouldn't have visible wings (outside of the UG anyhow, and it's not clear which plane they're on), Shiki looks like Eri (her real appearance was her entry fee in the main story), and arguably everyone's personalities are sillier (helping to suggest we shouldn't take much of Another Day seriously).
In short; delete the part talking about Hanekoma in Neku's profile. The battle is probably not canon, and even if it was, we can't get anything out of it if he's not using his full force.
Durability: "Fought Megumi who can freeze time, so he was doubtlessly forced to tank the latter's strongest attacks several times. Can tank blows from other foes around his level of power or even higher, such as the Producer Hanekoma". I already explained why Hanekoma shouldn't be mentioned in the profile. Megumi's attacks poses a separate issue, though. Megumi can stop time, but this also means he can't unleash attacks during that freeze. Instead, he sets up attacks to go off once he unpauses, which gives Neku enough time to avoid once he's able to move [see here]. The idea of "tanking blows" is a little questionable as well since Neku probably dodges more than take every hit dished out. I'll grant that he can take hits, as well as scaling with characters capable of fighting against him (if the enemy can take my hits and return something that can hurt me, they're comparable to me) as well as arguably Newton's 3rd Law justifying Durability scaling with AP.
Neku's Phone: There's one feature that needs to be added, although minor. Neku's (and Joshua's) phone can take up to 3 pictures per day of the past.
I may add more in the future, but I think this is fine enough for now. Should we go ahead and make these changes? I don't think there are many knowledgeable members to contact, but hopefully some staff can see this.
Soul Manipulation, Summoning: I notice this isn't on his profile. Neku can summon Rhyme's Noise form to attack opponents. Summoning of Noise is done through binding Soul to a pin, which should give some form of Soul Manipulation.
Imprinting: "(Can imprint orders and ideas into other people's minds to force them to take a decision he wants them to)." That is completely false. All Imprinting (page is a stub sadly) does is influence people struggling to make a decision; something like a burst of inspiration. For example, Shiki Day 5 presents a secret Meme (option for imprinting) of Slam-Off Tickets, which is the secret Mina's keeping that starts the whole situation (seen here). Even if you use this to Imprint, Mina will refuse to show the tickets. Showing it to Ai does no good either.
My suggested change is to, for one, put Imprinting under Mind Manipulation. Sending ideas into someone's head should fall under that. Second, the justification should be "Can send Memes, or ideas relating to his mission, into someone's head to influence a decision".
Status Effects: Somehow still not in his Powers and Abilities. Status effects include Attack Down, Defense Down, Immobilization, and HP Drain (which is actually just poison damage). Certain pins can inflict this at the start of battle. He should also have a resistance to some of these effects through wearing threads.
Hanekoma/Panthera Cantus: "Traded blows and even bested Hanekoma the Fallen Angel, a being from the Higher Plane who is even stronger than the Composer, though he didn't seem to be going all out in his battle against Neku" A few things wrong with this...
1) Panthera Cantus is probably not stronger than the Composer. The justification from this probably comes from his description of "Hanekoma's Noise form. This ultimate existence, both lion and tiger, demands your full force!", which could just allude to the fact that it's the superboss of TWEWY. Even then, if Hanekoma is holding back his power, then that shouldn't be usable to justify stats. That would mean this "suppressed power" is "somewhere" less than Neku's and Hanekoma's own power, but we don't exactly have numbers giving anything real to go by.
2) The events of Another Day aren't canon. Yeah, Joshua does hide away in a parallel world and Hanekoma does follow him there (both mentioned in secret reports), but that's about it. The description says "On a certain day, at a certain time, in a different world...this, like totally really happened.", which seems to imply the day in fact did not happen. There are also problems concerning Reapers shouldn't have visible wings (outside of the UG anyhow, and it's not clear which plane they're on), Shiki looks like Eri (her real appearance was her entry fee in the main story), and arguably everyone's personalities are sillier (helping to suggest we shouldn't take much of Another Day seriously).
In short; delete the part talking about Hanekoma in Neku's profile. The battle is probably not canon, and even if it was, we can't get anything out of it if he's not using his full force.
Durability: "Fought Megumi who can freeze time, so he was doubtlessly forced to tank the latter's strongest attacks several times. Can tank blows from other foes around his level of power or even higher, such as the Producer Hanekoma". I already explained why Hanekoma shouldn't be mentioned in the profile. Megumi's attacks poses a separate issue, though. Megumi can stop time, but this also means he can't unleash attacks during that freeze. Instead, he sets up attacks to go off once he unpauses, which gives Neku enough time to avoid once he's able to move [see here]. The idea of "tanking blows" is a little questionable as well since Neku probably dodges more than take every hit dished out. I'll grant that he can take hits, as well as scaling with characters capable of fighting against him (if the enemy can take my hits and return something that can hurt me, they're comparable to me) as well as arguably Newton's 3rd Law justifying Durability scaling with AP.
Neku's Phone: There's one feature that needs to be added, although minor. Neku's (and Joshua's) phone can take up to 3 pictures per day of the past.
I may add more in the future, but I think this is fine enough for now. Should we go ahead and make these changes? I don't think there are many knowledgeable members to contact, but hopefully some staff can see this.
