Tine eater VS Yogiri

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Another month another time eater thread (was gonna use solaris, but yogiri kinda slaps so pulling my goat time eater). now that yogiri came back he can be used on a lot of matchups now, and this one firs perfectly

time eater (true form)

Yogiri (Current | The End)

speed is equalized

 

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[Mbpoops]

Isnt yogiri only 1C with enviornmental? How does time eater not diff here

 

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Isnt yogiri only 1C with enviornmental? How does time eater not diff here

would be a stomp if yogiri couldnt negate half of the EE time eater has

 

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also iirc, time eater can negate inmo type 9, and idk how time eater handels abastract existance

 

[Mbpoops]

also iirc, time eater can negate inmo type 9, and idk how time eater handels abastract existance

what yogiri key is this?

 

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what yogiri key is this?

forgot that, Current | the end as they have the same tier

 

[Mbpoops]

im voting time eater here. i dont see resistence to time eater's erasure on yogiri's page but i could be blind anyway yogiri is only 1-C with enviornmental so i think TE takes this

 

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im voting time eater here. i dont see resistence to time eater's erasure on yogiri's page but i could be blind anyway yogiri is only 1-C with enviornmental so i think TE takes this

am 50/50 because yogiri is an AE, idk if TE can erase that far

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Time Eater has no resistance to death manipulation it seems. So, this depends on how fast TE's erasure is.

 

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Time Eater has no resistance to death manipulation it seems. So, this depends on how fast TE's erasure is.

apperantly TE EE is pretty fast, it could cover the prime world in seconds. its rated as immesruable speed, which idk if it matters

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

If it's neither passive nor thought-based, then Yogiri just kills him first.

 

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If it's neither passive nor thought-based, then Yogiri just kills him first.

iirc its passive, because it extended to the whole cosmology whith just beign there

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

iirc its passive, because it extended to the whole cosmology whith just beign there

That does not tell me if it instantly extended to the whole cosmology or not.

 

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That does not tell me if it instantly extended to the whole cosmology or not.

I do not remember that sadly, you would need to ask supporters, my bad. Do I add you for yogiri?

 

[Cipher72]

forgot that, Current | the end as they have the same tier

Current is for avatar and The End is for his True form. Despite their similar ratings The End is more haxxed so it depends, also voting Eugiri for UMR @Azertyhuuh reasoning.

iirc its passive, because it extended to the whole cosmology whith just beign there

That's not passive...
Immeasurable speed > Passive = Baseline Infinite speed

 

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Current is for avatar and The End is for his True form. Despite their similar ratings The End is more haxxed so it depends, also voting Eugiri for UMR @Azertyhuuh reasoning.

That's not passive...
Immeasurable speed > Passive = Baseline Infinite speed

he erased the cosmology by just beign there, I have no clue what speed would that mean. the main universe was erased in seconds, including other timelines, so I guess its imm speed

 

[Omegabronic]

also iirc, time eater can negate inmo type 9, and idk how time eater handels abastract existance

Depends, which abstration is he?

That does not tell me if it instantly extended to the whole cosmology or not.

It does, Eggman used him to do it all at once, Shadow Gens showing him even in multiple places at the same time while he erases, described in multiple sources as having erased ALL of reality/existence

 

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Depends, which abstration is he?

AE 1

 

[Omegabronic]

AE 1

Not what i asked, which abstration? Concept? Law? Etc

 

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Not what i asked, which abstration? Concept? Law? Etc

concept I think

 

[Shar122]

concept I think

He's not really stated as a concept, this seems more like a law.

• Abstract Existence (Type 1. Exists as a rule that governs and regulates the Ultimate Ensemble World, acting as the End, Stopper, and Limiter of all existence<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Yogiri_Takatou#cite_note-Volume15-48"><span>[</span>48<span>]</span></a>)

 

[Shar122]

Aso, what can Time eater do against Madness type 3?

 

[Omegabronic]

concept I think

So TE can erase

 

[ShakeResounding]

Aso, what can Time eater do against Madness type 3?

IIRC the Time Eater seems to be mindless and has a soul of "nothing but darkness", so truthfully I have no idea if it has the ability to be driven to madness mentally because it's mental capacity beyond innately craving destruction is dubious. (I don't know the specifics of Yogiri's Madness Type 3, so I ultimately can't say for certain).

Just to clarify: Time Eater's EE is not passive, it's just its opening move and it takes < 3 seconds to do a multiverse-wide EE. I'm not knowledgeable at all on Yogiri's opening move and the speed of it, but if it's Death Manipulation that activates immediately (lol Instant Death go figure) then Yogiri has a good shot.

The only problem is Time Eater's temporal psuedo-multilocation (shown during Shadow Generations' cutscene of it being in multiple places at once in the present, as well as appearing in both in Classic and Modern's time at once). It would make it a bit hard to predict because it can technically appear farther into the past and nuke things there.

• From a glance, perhaps Yogiri's Causality Manipulation and/or Cosmic Awareness could help him answer this. I may have missed it in the page, but he doesn't seem to have Acausality Type 1 to ignore this.

Not voting yet, but I think Yogiri stand a good chance depending on first moves and tactics and whatnot.

Also the Time Eater is slightly outdated because it gets some decent hax from Sonic Speed Simulator, it basically becomes Frisk kek

 

[Mbpoops]

Sonic speed simulator is used for sonic scaling?????

 

[Omegabronic]

Sonic speed simulator is used for sonic scaling?????

confirmed as canon

 

[Mommyleona]

Yogiri just passively kills gg

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I don't know the specifics of Yogiri's Madness Type 3, so I ultimately can't say for certain

You look at him, you start to become insane. But thats for his true form, which idk if the OP is using it here or just the avatar.

Time Eater's EE is not passive, it's just its opening move and it takes < 3 seconds to do a multiverse-wide EE. I'm not knowledgeable at all on Yogiri's opening move and the speed of it, but if it's Death Manipulation that activates immediately (lol Instant Death go figure) then Yogiri has a good shot.

Anything that might harm Yogiri is detected by him in advance and retaliated with a thought (or automatically, if Yogiri himself cant think fast enough).

Since TE's EE is not passive/instant I guess Yogiri just kills him before the EE is activated.

The only problem is Time Eater's temporal psuedo-multilocation (shown during Shadow Generations' cutscene of it being in multiple places at once in the present, as well as appearing in both in Classic and Modern's time at once). It would make it a bit hard to predict because it can technically appear farther into the past and nuke things there.

Im not sure if the OP is using the avatar or Yogiri's true form here. If it's the true form, it has 1-C range and it's omnipresent on a 1-C level, so I dont think that matters much.

If it's the avatar:
1. He still has 1-C range to affect Time Eater wherever he goes.
2. Trying to attack Yogiri in the past triggers his ability.
3. Yogiri was born with his powers. Even when he was a baby he still could detect threats in advance and retaliate.

So, the moment Time Eater tries to go into the past to rewrite history he would die.

Or, if there is already a Time Eater in the past, the moment that Time Eater tries to do anything it would die as well.

 

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Ok so apperently sonic speed simulator makes him even crazier

 

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Imo ngl I think it goes to yogiri, unless TE has some way of dealing with true form. Avatar form loses imo

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Avatar form loses imo

Did you read what I said?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Ah yes, my favorite sonic villian

Tine eater

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Anyway yogurts death hax is instant and automatic but he'll just say "die" to manually target stuff (I barely read instant death so ID supps can correct me if i'm wrong here)

assuming thats the case he just wins since I do remember the hax catching ppl through time travel so i'll vote him if this isn't a stomp

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

and automatic iirc

Yeah.

 

[Shar122]

IIRC the Time Eater seems to be mindless and has a soul of "nothing but darkness", so truthfully I have no idea if it has the ability to be driven to madness mentally because it's mental capacity beyond innately craving destruction is dubious. (I don't know the specifics of Yogiri's Madness Type 3, so I ultimately can't say for certain).

Madness type 3 isn't really madness type 2, which just targets the mind, madness type 3 involves more so act of cognition Itself breaking down, as long as you process information, you'll still be affected.
You gradually turn insane through the mere byproduct of Yogiri's presence by trying to perceive him.

You look at him, you start to become insane. But thats for his true form, which idk if the OP is using it here or just the avatar.

The OP is using the end key for Yogiri.

 

[ShakeResounding]

After the responses I've gotten, I think Yogiri seems to just beat out TE here because of Passive Fate/Probability stuff that covers time-traveling opponents alongside the eponymous Death Hax. Seems fair considering Time Eater would probably erase Yogiri on some type of level that would kill him if it could pull off its EE.

Gonna vote Yogiri FRA.

 

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erm so how's the vote counts?

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I dont think votes should be counted since it's a stomp.