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Toneri & Juubito (FP) vs Ichibei & Yamamoto (FP)

Feat wise toneri and and yama-G are aomewhat matched, both in speed and dc, and again featwise, ichibei has speed advantage and hax advantage over obito, also experience in combat goes for team bleach, so i would assume team bleach wins, but thats only me...
 
Juubito has only demonstrated country level feats, ichibei is somewhat on that level, and has his own hax which is equally as broken if not more so then obito's, not to mention he is faster...
 
Toneri is still faster than both of them and correct me if im wrong here but isnt it a well known fact in the narutoverse that jinchurikis are far superior to their actual tailed beast....
 
Juubito is continent level and massively hypersonic+ tho, and Toneri is definitely the fastest here. Ichibei's hax and Yama's bankai will be very troublesome, but I give this to team Naruto with high difficulty due to dc advantage mostly on Toneri's part.
 
he never shown any continet feats, someone posted the idea that he should be close in tier to madara since they both had the juubi in them, which is bullshit since obito's full power feats do not even compare remotely to those of madara, also his speed should be MHS as he is only faster then hashirama who was mach 499, while both the bleach characters are quad digits mach,

Toneri is continent, but so is yama in bankai, other then that speed is even.

also the fact that ichibei's hax isn't as impressive yhwach doen't mean its not broken, using his bankai on Juubito he can reduce his strength and many other things, not to mention he can BFR them him the hell out with senri tsutensho....
 
Toneri takes this alone, he is massively faster and can extend his sword in sub-relavistic speed. No one from Team Bleach has sub-relavistic reaction.
 
With VS battle equalization, Toneri can remove the reishi from Ichibei & Yamamoto's bodies.

Toneri & Juubito take this with mild difficulty
 
@Quincy King

The Last: Naruto the Movie

@50:30, Toneri forces Narutos chakra out of his body. With VS Battle Equalization, Toneri could do the same thing to Yamamoto & Ichibei's reishi.

@1:37:40, Toneri rapidly drains Narutos chakra from a distance. With VS Battle Equalization, Toneri could do the same thing to Yamamoto & Ichibei's reishi.
 
Hmm, i was under the impression that equalization was on by default, regardless,

Lets compare some stats,

Toneri

- DC = Moon Level (OBD lists it as Moon Level+, VSB lists it as Continent Level+)

- Durability = Continent Level+

- Speed = MHS+ (his sword extension is sub-relativistic)

Yamamoto

- DC = Continent Level

- Durability = Small Country Level+

- Speed = MHS+

Juubito

- DC = Continent Level

- Durability = Country Level

- Speed = MHS+

Ichibei

- DC = Small Country Level+

- Durability = Small Country Level

- Speed = MHS+

Simply put, Toneri could blitz Yamamoto & Ichibei with his sub-relativistic moon busting sword.

Toneri > Juubito > Yamamoto > Ichibei
 
The problem with the calcs are is the forget to factoring that the naruto moon is hollow accroding to this "However, beneath the surface there is a small city-sized cavern, relative to the size of the moon" http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Moo, meaning that toneri would've used a whole lot less energy to cut and seperate both sides, and the second calc didn't factoring in the GPE (gravitational potential energy ) or GBE (gravitonal binding energy),which is a must in feats dealing with celestial bodies
 
@Quincy King

If you want to start quoting from the wiki, Toneri is a multi-moon buster or planet buster,

"It also seems to be bigger than the moon in real life, having earth-like gravity and an oxygen-enriched atmosphere even on the surface."
 
If you want to start quoting from the wiki, Toneri is a multi-moon buster or planet buster"

"It also seems to be bigger than the moon in real life, having earth-like gravity and an oxygen-enriched atmosphere even on the surface."

The naruto moon is 3475 km and our moon is 3474 km, you are right it is bigger.........by 1km
 
What im saying is, the wiki should not be used as a source, unless it backs up the claim with a manga scan or databook entry. The quote i posted implies that Narutos moon is much larger than the real moon because it has "earth-like gravity". This is obviously not true because Narutos moon is pretty much the same size as the real moon.
 
Unless Ichibei can get his bankai ink on both of them, which Juubito might still be able to counter, then the team wins. Yamamoto doesn't really bring much to the table in this fight. The sun armor doesn't instantaneosly reach solar temps and both characters on the Naruto team should be much faster.
 
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