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Yang Kai begin with his madness manip aura via Demon God transformation and looking at both of his enemies with his eyes of annihilation (soul manip), if the enemies survive Yang Kai will probably use space manip to skip distance to the Heian Scholars.
Meng Chuan will use all of his stats amp while deploying his Darkstar Domain and his passive Seamless Domain, attacking both Heian Scholars with lightning attack and soul manip.
Yang Kai divine sense cover 200 km range and he can sense invisible thing that normal Cultivator can't via Divine Sense, Yang Kai can restrict Sukuna movement via his Divine Sense and go on melee with him.Both of his opponents resist soul and madness manipulation otherwise Morris just negates it at least around himself with conceptual deconstruction.
Both have multiple ways and level of stat amps. They could also regenerate from damage nigh instantly.
Yang Kai should probably watch for Morris’ tentacles which deconstruct anything it touches. And how would they normally deal with attacks being spammed on them cuz Sukuna can spam invisible slashes at them.
Yang Kai divine sense cover 200 km range and he can sense invisible thing that normal Cultivator can't via Divine Sense, Yang Kai can restrict Sukuna movement via his Divine Sense and go on melee with him.
Yang Kai Qi have Dura neg and can explode Sukuna internal organ via his martial arts.
Meng Chuan triple domain (seamless, darkstar, electromagnetic) can also sense everything including electromagnetic wave and invisible attack up to hundreds of kilometres.
Also Meng Chuan have passive spatial repulsive forces via Darkstar domain, the closer an attack to him- the more powerful are his repulsive force.
Meng Chuan can also transform into lightning and have at least 120% speed amp. Also Meng Chuan resisted matters Manip.
An ability to absolutely control environment with forces (qi equivalent) and every energy in it. The user can attack everything inside his domain instantly (almost similar to domain expansion) and can sense everything inside his domain.Domain? Is that like a separate space? Subspace? Pocket dimension?
Yang Kai withstood heavenly tribulations lightning, which have the temperature of a real one. Meng Chuan have passive spatial repulsive forces via his domain, the closer an attack approach him the stronger are the forces are. Similar to Gojo infinity but not at his extent.Sukuna’s fire arrow that vaporizes everything including steel over a hundred meters. His flames are actually hotter than a fire curse who can also vaporize steel.
Meng Chuan domain and Yang Kai divine sense outrange Sukuna domain, they both have hundreds kilometers range while Sukuna is 200 meters.Domain expansion turning opponents to dust unless they can heal faster than they can be turned to dust.
Yang Kai wont resist this probably, but Meng Chuan can regen from his particle.Luckily it was Meguna that obtained world slash so what stops him from spamming it? (World slash is a slash that cuts existence itself according to how it’s described. It’s also unblockable.I honestly just think it’s a regular spatial slash but I may be wrong.)
As long as you are in his divine sense range, the attack will spawn on you.The soul attacks seem like something that can be dodged (right?). Regardless Sukuna should survive, considering he is the pinnacle of sorcerers who can defend against someone like Mahito who can attack the soul. Keep in mind someone like mid tier like Hanami could take a couple soul attacks from Mahito. Morris could disintegrate the attack depending on how the attack works.
Just a reminder that fate Manip stuff is restricted under the rule set, by the by
But the whole slashing thing seems solid enough
However I disagree that Chinamen’s wincons are actually wincons. many of them are attacks that can be regenerated from, dodged, disintegrated, Mahoraga’s reactive evolution or all round dealth with via the combination of all of heian sorcerer’s abilities.
That just Cultivator 101: how to fight, they will always use ranged attack first and yes- kilometers away.They have the range but are they really down to move away from starting distance to land attacks from many kilometers away?
- Yang Kai divine sense is non physical attack that instantly spawn on his enemies as long as they're still in range. Cannot be physically dodged.
- Chinamen have range advantage (Kilometers range), and they can teleport.
- I can't see how the Heian Scholar can reach Meng Chuan in deeper void.
- I also can't see how they dodge and anticipate Meng Chuan Infinite Saber with his 50x speed boost and cutting attack that goes through the gap in space-time.
- Meng Chuan can just spam his spatial Saber Arts across kilometers to instantly kill Mahoraga.
Fair.Neverneverland (Yuno’s region of stat reduction, and time manipulation) and Thread of Fate (fate manipulation) also spawns on their target yet Morris was able to disintegrate those around himself. So I don’t see divine sense and domains working efficiently here. Heck Sukuna could adapt to it eventually after Morris protects him.
The Chinamen will sense them first due to their kilometers wide sensing, so the Chinamen have first move advantage here.That is useful. However, it’s not entirely advantageous especially when heian sorcerers will close the gap on them via various ways such as hiding in shadows and moving towards the enemy (Sukuna can use Megumi’s abilities, this ability is used for stealth attack but it can be used to close the distance strategically) and so on. They can keep doing this even if they teleport but I doubt these guys are the kind of fighters who spam teleportation in combat.
I don't think his passive cleave can keep up with Meng Chuan 50x speed Infinite Saber. Meng Chuan can also follow it up with another Infinite Saber to overwhelm Meguna regen.Sukuna’s domain expansion can act as a pseudo forcefield against any threat. The slashed spammed are so fine and dense that it turns objects to dust so these slashes can deflect attacks that enter within range. If the attacks do damage Sukuna, he will simply take it and constantly regenerate. Just like how Gojo took Sukuna’s spammed slashes while simultaneously regenerating and fighting at the same time.
He would use spatial repel on Sukuna to avoid him getting closer with Morris and kill him before he adapted.Sukuna and Morris will protect Mahoraga enough for him to adapt to Saber Arts however a better way is for Sukuna to just put Mahoraga’s wheel on his back so that he can adapt to it himself while constantly regenerating from those attacks.
- Yang Kai divine sense is non physical attack that instantly spawn on his enemies as long as they're still in range. Cannot be physically dodged.
- Chinamen have range advantage (Kilometers range), and they can teleport.
- I can't see how the Heian Scholar can reach Meng Chuan in deeper void.
- I also can't see how they dodge and anticipate Meng Chuan Infinite Saber with his 50x speed boost and cutting attack that goes through the gap in space-time.
- Meng Chuan can just spam his spatial Saber Arts across kilometers to instantly kill Mahoraga.
Let's start the votes.
Alright, whats the wincons for both, and whos most likely to be able to pull them off first?
Just, direct and not beating around the bush
I think we can start the votes.Heian Sorcerers wincons include:
-instant deconstruction down to a conceptual level via tens of elongated arms. Works for attacks, domains (regions of space that induce status effects), fate manipulation, pseudo-forcefield where Sukuna spams slashes that defend him etc. works great passively for defense and offense. They don’t seem able to resist that type of deconstruction.
That may be it.
However I disagree that Chinamen’s wincons are actually wincons. many of them are attacks that can be regenerated from, dodged, disintegrated, Mahoraga’s reactive evolution or all round dealth with via the combination of all of heian sorcerer’s abilities.
And I know chinamen could defend against some of heian sorcerers attacks.
The Chinamen will sense them first due to their kilometers wide sensing, so the Chinamen have first move advantage here.
I don't think his passive cleave can keep up with Meng Chuan 50x speed Infinite Saber. Meng Chuan can also follow it up with another Infinite Saber to overwhelm Meguna regen.
Alright, whats the wincons for both, and whos most likely to be able to pull them off first?
Just, direct and not beating around the bush
His sword, Demon Slayer have space cutting ability.In terms of adapting to Infinite Saber, I think Sukuna already has a head start when it comes to slash attacks in general because at the time Sukuna fought Mahoraga he spammed so much slashes on him that Mahoraga adapted to slash attacks in general, hence why all of Sukuna’s slashes don’t work on him anymore. Now Sukuna has Mahoraga and his powers if he doesn’t want to summon him. (Infinite saber is super fast slash attacks I presume)
His sword, Demon Slayer have space cutting ability.