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  • Both are 8-B; Tanjiro is in his Post-Pillar Training State, Travis Touchdown is using his Fourth Key
  • Both have their standard equipment but Travis is restricted from his vehicles
  • Fight takes place in a Japanese forest outside of the Demon Slayer HQ
  • Both start 10 meters apart
  • Speeds are equalized
Tanjiro:

Travis:
 
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However, his third key resists Fear Manipulation. You can switch to that if you want
 
Alright so while this is a fair fight I do believe Travis wins due to his glove's various abilities. These include slowing down time in an area, healing himself and telekinesis, alongside his speed amps.

Also I should mention, his Resurrection is usually not combat applicable
 
He has a huge AP advantage, but he doesn't resist Heat well enough to tank the Beam Katana anyway, and odds are this fight's ending pretty fast
 
He has a huge AP advantage, but he doesn't resist Heat well enough to tank the Beam Katana anyway, and odds are this fight's ending pretty fast
also damn it armor I wanted to do killer7 vs nmh but you just had to be based and upgraded the verse

But let’s call some Demon Slayer supporters first and give there arguments
 
Anyway I'm gonna make my argument a bit more formal here.

They start at range, which means Travis will lead with the Death Glove. The Death Glove has dozens of chips, however there are several of them that are virtually a guaranteed win.

  • Wing Chip shoots an AOE blast of electricity. While Tanjiro resists paralysis that paralysis was induced through completely different means, so odds are this allows Travis to land the killing blow.
  • Infinite Justice Chip binds the target with a wire and pulls them closer. Tanjiro currently has Class 10 LS however that feat is not usable as he is clearly rolling the boulder, not pushing it (no, the rubble lifted does not disprove that, it would always happen when moving something that heavy).
  • Shining Chip, basically the same as Infinite Justice.
  • Heavy Chip slows down time in a wide area, thus leading to a clear blitz from Travis.
  • Psycho Chip fires multiple shots that stun targets.
  • NBMB Chip gives all of Travis attacks AOE shockwaves for an amount of time. Shockwaves are heat based too
All of these are activated by pointing or some other gesture

If Travis dodges an attack, he will activate Dark Step, which briefly gives a great speed boost. If Travis gets excited, which will take more or less a minute of combat, he can activate Super Mode, which is a longer, just as powerful speed boost. Both of these are good enough to blitz people slightly faster than Travis
 
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Here goes:

First of all, Tanjiro's precog allows him to keep up with opponent's who can blitz him. This makes Travis at an enormous disadvantage from the get-go since speed is equalized.

He can access the Transparent World's amp at a moment's notice even when attacked, which greatly increases his speed to the point that amped characters who can blitz him at base look like they are moving in slow motion. It also improves his precog and allows him to analyze his opponents.

Tanjiro has reactive power level, and is stated to have had his speed increase throughout the fight, and to possess the ability to adapt to much stronger and faster opponents.

His clarivoyance leads him to his opponent's weakness, and shows him threads that guides his sword to a decisive blow. So attacks Tanjiro aims for will be lethal.

Tanjiro's Breath of the Fire God has AoE attacks, provides painful sensation of burning, and negates regeneration. It also has a dodging technique that leaves behind an illusion, and allows him to dodge opponents who can blitz him at point blank.
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Tanjiro can also blitz with Waltz Flash.
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Nichirin resists heat well enough, considering that they can generate burning wounds that burns for hundreds of years, and Tanjiro's uniform is designed to protect from heat. Not that Tanjiro is likely to get hit in the first place considering his precog alone.


The Death Glove argument is quite unconvincing:
Wing Chip shoots an AOE blast of electricity. While Tanjiro resists paralysis that paralysis was induced through completely different means, so odds are this allows Travis to land the killing blow.
The blast is not that wide; it looks like a lightning bolt. And Post-Pillar training Tanjiro scales above lightning cutting.

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And if it was an AoE attack, he can simply deflect it like what is done with AoE attacks.
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Not to mention that Wing Chip is not sustained and doesn't have paralysis feats.

Infinite Justice Chip binds the target with a wire and pulls them closer. Tanjiro currently has Class 10 LS however that feat is not usable as he is clearly rolling the boulder, not pushing it (no, the rubble lifted does not disprove that, it would always happen when moving something that heavy).
Shining Chip, basically the same as Infinite Justice.
So dodgable attack.

The exercise is about pushing boulders, not rolling them. Nice try at downplay though. That had an approved Class 25 calc by the way, but it is packaged with the other revisions to be applied in one go; if you want I can apply the Lifting Strength now. So the chip is detrimental to Travis if anything.

Heavy Chip slows down time in a wide area, thus leading to a clear blitz from Travis.
Countered by precog that allows keeping up with opponents fast enough to blitz (and who are using precog at the same time to boot), countered with Transparent World amp, countered with Fake Rainbow dodge.

Psycho Chip fires multiple shots that stun targets.
Dodgable attacks.

NBMB Chip gives all of Travis attacks AOE shockwaves for an amount of time. Shockwaves are heat based too
So discount Breathing Techniques. Deflected/Dodged.

If Travis dodges an attack, he will activate Dark Step, which briefly gives a great speed boost. If Travis gets excited, which will take more or less a minute of combat, he can activate Super Mode, which is a longer, just as powerful speed boost. Both of these are good enough to blitz people slightly faster than Travis
From what I understand, Travis doesn't retain Dark Step in Death Drive Mk II to begin with, and Tanjiro is much more likely to use his easy-to-activate amp if the fight takes a minute.
 
Here goes:

First of all, Tanjiro's precog allows him to keep up with opponent's who can blitz him. This makes Travis at an enormous disadvantage from the get-go since speed is equalized.
That is literally impossible. With the difference Travis' boosts give him at least. The opponents aren't just unable to react, they're also unable to move fast enough to block any sort of attack. If during a speed amp Tanjiro sees Travis' attack coming and begins to move to dodge or block it, Travis can quite easily just change target mid-slash and Tanjiro can't physically move fast enough to block that. This applies to all blitzing arguments. I don't care how it works in the anime, if it doesn't make logical sense it shouldn't be counted.
He can access the Transparent World's amp at a moment's notice even when attacked, which greatly increases his speed to the point that amped characters who can blitz him at base look like they are moving in slow motion. It also improves his precog and allows him to analyze his opponents.
He can't do that here, he's slower.
Tanjiro can also blitz with Waltz Flash.
He can't do that here, he's still slower
Nichirin resists heat well enough, considering that they can generate burning wounds that burns for hundreds of years, and Tanjiro's uniform is designed to protect from heat. Not that Tanjiro is likely to get hit in the first place considering his precog alone.
Burning wounds that last hundreds of years is not a heat feat, it's just a magical property of the fire. Besides Travis can easily cut through those who stand in an intense housefire without harm in a weakened form.
Countered by precog that allows keeping up with opponents fast enough to blitz (and who are using precog at the same time to boot), countered with Transparent World amp, countered with Fake Rainbow dodge.
Again, physically impossible.
From what I understand, Travis doesn't retain Dark Step in Death Drive Mk II to begin with, and Tanjiro is much more likely to use his easy-to-activate amp if the fight takes a minute.
This is his IRL key.

Finally, Tanjiro cannot block Travis' attacks as his sword would just get melted through.
 
That is literally impossible. With the difference Travis' boosts give him at least. The opponents aren't just unable to react, they're also unable to move fast enough to block any sort of attack. If during a speed amp Tanjiro sees Travis' attack coming and begins to move to dodge or block it, Travis can quite easily just change target mid-slash and Tanjiro can't physically move fast enough to block that. This applies to all blitzing arguments. I don't care how it works in the anime, if it doesn't make logical sense it shouldn't be counted.
Sorry, TC didn't restrict abilities, and complaining about the impossibility of the fictional character abilities is ridiculous. Using precog to dodge physical attacks too fast to see (even when the attacks are enhanced with precog), and opponents fast enough to look like they are teleporting, is something Tanjiro can do.

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He can't do that here, he's slower.
Would still be usable as an additional counter to Travis' speed amps, since it is not used as Tanjiro's only or main win condition.

Burning wounds that last hundreds of years is not a heat feat, it's just a magical property of the fire. Besides Travis can easily cut through those who stand in an intense housefire without harm in a weakened form.
Debatable whether it is a magical property.
The pain from Dance of the Fire God was painful to demons who shrug-off injuries with a smile.

Again, physically impossible.
As if transforming into a tiger is physically possible.

Finally, Tanjiro cannot block Travis' attacks as his sword would just get melted through.
Judging by the amount of gore, the energy blade doesn't appear to produce enough heat to cauterize wounds. Weapon clash is also a mechanic (and bosses without beam weapons even have unique animations).
 
Sorry, TC didn't restrict abilities, and complaining about the impossibility of the fictional character abilities is ridiculous. Using precog to dodge physical attacks too fast to see (even when the attacks are enhanced with precog), and opponents fast enough to look like they are teleporting, is something Tanjiro can do.
If you can't prove the logic of something then it's PIS. There is absolutely no reason Travis couldn't adjust his aim when Tanjiro dodges with how much faster he's moving. Perhaps KNY characters aren't as competent when they're speedsters or something like that, I don't really care. Either way, Travis moves about x7 times faster when amped. If he swings at Tanjiro, who's began moving away, he can just keep moving his blade far faster than Tanjiro can move away, or adjust his blade's trajectory in response to his parries. He may anticipate his movements, but he could not possibly prevent him from adapting.
Debatable whether it is a magical property.
The pain from Dance of the Fire God was painful to demons who shrug-off injuries with a smile.
Again, not directly related to heat.
As if transforming into a tiger is physically possible.
False equivalency.
Judging by the amount of gore, the energy blade doesn't appear to produce enough heat to cauterize wounds. Weapon clash is also a mechanic (and bosses without beam weapons even have unique animations).
NMH characters have heat-resistant weapons, as proven by Badman's baseball bat being reinforced with diamonds for the specific purpose of resisting Beam Katana heat.
 
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Also you do realize that if Tanjiro is able to keep up with people that blitz him, he's effectively able to blitz people comparable to him? If your logic were to be solid, this would be a stomp.

Spealing of stomps, how strong is Tanjiro's Fear Manip? Travis' resistance is fairly weak now that I think of it.
 
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Not really into the match but uh

"Nichirin resists heat well enough, considering that they can generate burning wounds that burns for hundreds of years, and Tanjiro's uniform is designed to protect from heat. Not that Tanjiro is likely to get hit in the first place considering his precog alone."

Heat for a long time =/= Heavy heat.
 
Also, I forgot about the Strike Freedom Chip that just casts an instant huge satellite laser in an area, that's something else Tanjiro can't combat.
 
If you can't prove the logic of something then it's PIS. There is absolutely no reason Travis couldn't adjust his aim when Tanjiro dodges with how much faster he's moving. Perhaps KNY characters aren't as competent when they're speedsters or something like that, I don't really care. Either way, Travis moves about x7 times faster when amped. If he swings at Tanjiro, who's began moving away, he can just keep moving his blade far faster than Tanjiro can move away, or adjust his blade's trajectory in response to his parries. He may anticipate his movements, but he could not possibly prevent him from adapting.
PIS is something contrary to the character's normal capabilities. Tanjiro's precog and its capabilities is explicitly part of his normal capabilities by both statements and feats; doesn't matter whether you think it makes sense or not. Non-Existence Physiology (Type 2) is an ability that is contrary to basic logic axioms for example, but it is something fictional characters have.

NMH characters have heat-resistant weapons, as proven by Badman's baseball bat being reinforced with diamonds for the specific purpose of resisting Beam Katana heat.
Actually it was reinforced with diamonds for vanity's sake when he was a professional baseball player, and the wood exterior doesn't get instantly burned away either. This does not mean that every grunt with a crowbar has his weapon reinforced.

Also you do realize that if Tanjiro is able to keep up with people that blitz him, he's effectively able to blitz people comparable to him? If your logic were to be solid, this would be a stomp.

Spealing of stomps, how strong is Tanjiro's Fear Manip? Travis' resistance is fairly weak now that I think of it.
Not really, since his sense of incoming attacks is stated to be faster than his sense of his opponent's weakpoint. So it is more of a defensive ability that activates when an attack is incoming; he is not going to close in many meters away faster than a comparable opponent can see.

He is unaffected by Muzan's aura, and he unlocked the Transparent World which requires especially powerful Battle Spirit, so it is top-tier in the verse. These are the best feats:

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Travis is said to scale to resisting extreme mental stress, resulting in extreme fear and rage, which can possibly fry the nerves of the brain.

Also, I forgot about the Strike Freedom Chip that just casts an instant huge satellite laser in an area, that's something else Tanjiro can't combat.
Exaggerated description aside, it is easily dodgable.


Slowly charged and slowly aimed, and the area is small enough to simply move out of the way with a dash or roll.
 
PIS is something contrary to the character's normal capabilities. Tanjiro's precog and its capabilities is explicitly part of his normal capabilities by both statements and feats; doesn't matter whether you think it makes sense or not. Non-Existence Physiology (Type 2) is an ability that is contrary to basic logic axioms for example, but it is something fictional characters have.
I don't care if it's his ability or not, I have explained how Travis could easily get around it without him having a chance to counter it, but to make it clearer how it doesn't make sense, I'll use math to explain it.

Let's say Dark Step is a 5x amp. Travis is able to swing his sword about six or seven times in Dark Step. Now, Tanjiro sees all the slashes coming, and moves his blade to deflect the first one. Let's say Travis for some reason clashes his sword with him instead of changing his aim. Now, Travis is going to attack again, but not the same spot- he's going to attack 40 cm lower. So, he pulls back his Beam Katana, by about 70 cm, and then swings it forward and downwards, moving it by 70 cm again. To deflect this slash, THERE IS NO OTHER WAY for Tanjiro to do that than to move his sword downwards by 40 cm.

However, 70 x 2 is 140, while 40 x 5 is 200. So, at the speed he's moving, he's physically unable to move his blade fast enough to block the second blow (he'll be 60 : 5 = 12 cm short, to be precise).

Now, I believe it's extremely obvious that no matter his precognition, Tanjiro cannot possibly force Travis into a situation where he cannot take advantage of his superior speed for a surefire blow. The fact that characters in the manga never take advantage of this is simply stupidity on their part. Unless you have ACTUAL LOGIC that counters this instead of just false equivalences and "it works like this in the manga", drop the argument.
Actually it was reinforced with diamonds for vanity's sake when he was a professional baseball player, and the wood exterior doesn't get instantly burned away either. This does not mean that every grunt with a crowbar has his weapon reinforced.
"And if you're wondering how Badman's baseball bat could possibly clash with Travis' Beam Katana and not shatter to pieces or burst into flames, Suda's already got a perfectly logical explanation lined up. "On the surface it's wood, but inside, it's made with special materials," he explains. "It's filled with diamonds. He's a former major league baseball player; I'm pretty sure that he used to play for the Cardinals. He had this special diamond-core bat made, with all the money that he made back when he was a major leaguer."

From the interview linked on Badman's profile.

Of course random fodder being able to do that is game mechanics, but almost everyone important has highly customized weaponry.
He is unaffected by Muzan's aura, and he unlocked the Transparent World which requires especially powerful Battle Spirit, so it is top-tier in the verse. These are the best feats:
Travis is said to scale to resisting extreme mental stress, resulting in extreme fear and rage, which can possibly fry the nerves of the brain.
Sounds like he'd definitely feel the extreme fear if nothing else, then. Which would lead him to pull out his wincons instead of engaging in a direct fight.
Exaggerated description aside, it is easily dodgable.

Slowly charged and slowly aimed, and the area is small enough to simply move out of the way with a dash or roll.
Yes, if you know it's coming. Tanjiro's precognition reads body movements and smell and that's all, not what the technology of his weaponry does. Speaking of that, can he even read the muscles of someone wearing clothes like Travis? I assume that's the case but I wanna make sure. Slowly aimed is obviously a game mechanic as well, the animation clearly shows some quick typing then him pointing so that's how it's activated, nothing slower than that. It also literally isn't charged, it has a recharge time but it's ready to go at the beginning of a fight.

Also, I'd very much appreciate it if you stopped implying I was exaggerating my character's abilities. To be quite honest I find it rather annoying when it is completely baseless.
 
If you move faster than their body can physically move, then it doesn't matter if they can predict your movements. They can't do anything about it. Them being portrayed as being able to keep up with people that are "significantly faster" in-verse because of their precog is irrelevant for vs matches, precog isn't some logic-breaking hax that nullifies massive speed differences. It just proves that the speed difference isn't actually that big.
 
I don't care if it's his ability or not [...]
I do as abilities are not restricted.
Complaining how an ability a character is explicitly established to have doesn't make sense within a versus thread is one of the most ridiculous things I have seen. If you are so hung up about how one of many abilities works, you can theorize that Tanjiro gains a speed amp against the attack he sensed based on 'this powerful weapon gave him movement comparable to a Hashira'. But it is something that happens and something explicitly stated that Tanjiro is capable of doing.

Now, I believe it's extremely obvious that no matter his precognition, Tanjiro cannot possibly force Travis into a situation where he cannot take advantage of his superior speed for a surefire blow. The fact that characters in the manga never take advantage of this is simply stupidity on their part. Unless you have ACTUAL LOGIC that counters this instead of just false equivalences and "it works like this in the manga", drop the argument.
We are talking about:
1- A character who casually moves faster than Tanjiro can perceive + angry and trying to kill Tanjiro + using precog by reading Tanjiro's intention and instinctively adjusting his attacks to counter it.
2- An even faster character who attacks faster than Tanjiro can perceive + trying to kill Tanjiro and keep him at a distance + is spamming said attack forcing Tanjiro to make various twists and turns.

They are trying to take advantage of it and failing. Any feats that allows Travis to get around this.

Of course random fodder being able to do that is game mechanics, but almost everyone important has highly customized weaponry.
And I guess the gore and wood not getting burned are game mechanics as well? Travis' beam katana simply doesn't have the feats to insta-melt a katana that out APs him.

Sounds like he'd definitely feel the extreme fear if nothing else, then. Which would lead him to pull out his wincons instead of engaging in a direct fight.
I would say the extreme fear will slow him down, and allow Tanjiro to win easier. And as explained, the ranged wincons are unreliable.

Yes, if you know it's coming. Tanjiro's precognition reads body movements and smell and that's all, not what the technology of his weaponry does. Speaking of that, can he even read the muscles of someone wearing clothes like Travis? I assume that's the case but I wanna make sure. Slowly aimed is obviously a game mechanic as well, the animation clearly shows some quick typing then him pointing so that's how it's activated, nothing slower than that. It also literally isn't charged, it has a recharge time but it's ready to go at the beginning of a fight.
His standard precog doesn't need sight; it simply tells him where his opponents is going to strike next. Even if his opponent is a mindless doll.
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He can also smell people's thoughts and uses this to attempt having conversations with animals, so the thing is basically magic.

The Transparent World precog analysis the body, including muscles and bones. So clothes don't matter.
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Also, most demons wear clothes, lol.

Hm? Animation clearly shows Travis typing while the slow aiming is happening, and then pressing a button. Can you explain how this is game mechanics?

If you move faster than their body can physically move, then it doesn't matter if they can predict your movements. They can't do anything about it. Them being portrayed as being able to keep up with people that are "significantly faster" in-verse because of their precog is irrelevant for vs matches, precog isn't some logic-breaking hax that nullifies massive speed differences. It just proves that the speed difference isn't actually that big.
It is explicitly stated by the narrator that Tanjiro is capable of doing that. The speed difference is big enough for character to appear as if they are teleporting, and for attacks to be stated to be too fast to see; this is the speed difference Tanjiro's precog can canonically allow him to keep up with.
 
Ok, but that's entirely irrelevant as it's literally physically impossible. If Tanjiro already couldn't move at the speed needed to block it, it doesn't matter if he could have seen it coming. All that proves is that he could've blocked it if he could have seen it coming, unless you're arguing that his Precog also has a speed amp.

We don't take verse's words for things if it literally is just impossible. Your comparison for non-existent physiology and Precog isn't accurate, as you're comparing predicting movements to not existing at all. Precog, like I already said, isn't some logic-breaking hax that defies speed. All it proves is that Tanjiro had the physical speed to do it, but couldn't react. Just puts his combat speed > his reaction speed, which would be useless without precog.
 
I do as abilities are not restricted.
Complaining how an ability a character is explicitly established to have doesn't make sense within a versus thread is one of the most ridiculous things I have seen. If you are so hung up about how one of many abilities works, you can theorize that Tanjiro gains a speed amp against the attack he sensed based on 'this powerful weapon gave him movement comparable to a Hashira'. But it is something that happens and something explicitly stated that Tanjiro is capable of doing.
Do a CRT about it. Burden on proof ain't on me
We are talking about:
1- A character who casually moves faster than Tanjiro can perceive + angry and trying to kill Tanjiro + using precog by reading Tanjiro's intention and instinctively adjusting his attacks to counter it.
2- An even faster character who attacks faster than Tanjiro can perceive + trying to kill Tanjiro and keep him at a distance + is spamming said attack forcing Tanjiro to make various twists and turns.

They are trying to take advantage of it and failing. Any feats that allows Travis to get around this.
Having a brain and doing exactly what I said he would.
And I guess the gore and wood not getting burned are game mechanics as well? Travis' beam katana simply doesn't have the feats to insta-melt a katana that out APs him.
Henry can melt through several square meters of steel in the first game, and AP =/= heat, this has nothing to do with it.
I would say the extreme fear will slow him down, and allow Tanjiro to win easier. And as explained, the ranged wincons are unreliable.
Travis has a little mantra to clear his head when he's fighting- unless the fears freezes him completely, it won't affect him much. And no, they aren't.
His standard precog doesn't need sight; it simply tells him where his opponents is going to strike next. Even if his opponent is a mindless doll.
How much can it see in the future? Also, scans on how it works, and on whether it can predict an invisible area of effect spell that doesn't inflict direct damage. This is the one thing you haven't provided scans for and it's the only thing I want scans for. As for the animal thing, does he usually lead with it in combat and how much is its range? Speaking of that, does he lead with precog at all?
Hm? Animation clearly shows Travis typing while the slow aiming is happening, and then pressing a button.
In the NMH3 trailer you can clearly see that Glove techniques are now aimed through Lock-On. Besides, I wouldn't call it slow, it's more or less comparable to his running speed, but with a far wider area of course.
It is explicitly stated by the narrator that Tanjiro is capable of doing that. The speed difference is big enough for character to appear as if they are teleporting, and for attacks to be stated to be too fast to see; this is the speed difference Tanjiro's precog can canonically allow him to keep up with.
Still doesn't make sense my guy!
 
While I only have a vague idea of what is going on here, I'll give me two cents on the whole "Tanjiro can dodge shit way faster than him because precog" argument.

This seems to be from his fight with Akaza, which is laughable because Tanjiro's inner monologue repeatedly states that he can't even remotely dodge Akaza's attacks and can only either block or shift to avoid instant death, when Akaza wasn't exactly utterly blitzing him as this argument implies.

Even besides that, Tanjiro's other abilities being basically magic and blatantly supernatural do not let him suddenly violate basic logic that every single person understands. X + 1 > X. That's not an arguable thing. It's just an objective fact about reality. And unless we're somehow told in-universe that that is no longer the case, and the rest of the series makes sense with that in mind, we consider it to be the case for fiction as well. And would you look at that, nothing of the sort in KnY because that would be ******* ridiculous.

This is also avoiding the entire issue that these feats, if they existed at all, would cause for the rest of the verse. If you can attack seven times compared to your opponent's one, you'd have to be genuinely ******* stupid to somehow not hit those, because your opponent has far less time to react to your actions while you have more time to react to theirs. Simply put, if that feat ever happened, it would be nothing but a massive anti-feat for the faster person rather than a feat for the skill of the defender, because basic common sense tells you to stop doing things that have repeatedly failed to work.
 
Ok, but that's entirely irrelevant as it's literally physically impossible. If Tanjiro already couldn't move at the speed needed to block it, it doesn't matter if he could have seen it coming. All that proves is that he could've blocked it if he could have seen it coming, unless you're arguing that his Precog also has a speed amp.

We don't take verse's words for things if it literally is just impossible. Your comparison for non-existent physiology and Precog isn't accurate, as you're comparing predicting movements to not existing at all. Precog, like I already said, isn't some logic-breaking hax that defies speed. All it proves is that Tanjiro had the physical speed to do it, but couldn't react. Just puts his combat speed > his reaction speed, which would be useless without precog.
A being who conceptually does not exist but does, is literally impossible. Yet this is accepted via. statements.
It is plausible for it to be a speed amp; characters in the verse can gain a massive boost via. will power, and Tanjiro himself has reactive power level. You go with this interpretation if you want, though I don't think theorizing about the mechanics of an established ability is necessary just because an explanation is perceived as silly.

Do a CRT about it. Burden on proof ain't on me
He already has Statistics Amplification. If you want to theorize about how X and Y abilities work, feel free.

Having a brain and doing exactly what I said he would.
They did. Akaza adjusts his aim mid-combat with precog that reacts to his opponent, and Muzan spammed lots of attacks to trap Tanjiro.

Henry can melt through several square meters of steel in the first game, and AP =/= heat, this has nothing to do with it.
But Travis lacks Henry's feat or his Russian cross sword, and fails to cauterize wounds.

Travis has a little mantra to clear his head when he's fighting- unless the fears freezes him completely, it won't affect him much. And no, they aren't.
Feats for the mantra? Interesting that you didn't respond to most of the points explaining why they are unreliable.

How much can it see in the future? Also, scans on how it works, and on whether it can predict an invisible area of effect spell that doesn't inflict direct damage. This is the one thing you haven't provided scans for and it's the only thing I want scans for. As for the animal thing, does he usually lead with it in combat and how much is its range? Speaking of that, does he lead with precog at all?
Long enough to know his opponent would aim next; so probably a few seconds in combat and at least before the opponent starts the attack. "invisible area of effect spell that doesn't inflict direct damage" is vague, what are you talking about?

His clairvoyance allows him to know that doing something is bad idea though, and Demon Slayers commonly have instincts to respond to someone attempting to directly attacking them in their sleep and some can instinctively respond to indirect attacks on their soul.
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For the rest of the scans you can check the Sense of Smell section in the respect thread.
Before unlocking precog, he can smell attacks coming from underground, an invisible entrance to a pocket dimension, invisible claw attacks that are generated a couple of meters around him.

He is always using his sense of smell so precog against incoming attack is always on. He uses it from tracking to passively sensing the emotions of others. Using his sense of smell to judge his opponent's strength is what he starts with.

In the NMH3 trailer you can clearly see that Glove techniques are now aimed through Lock-On. Besides, I wouldn't call it slow, it's more or less comparable to his running speed, but with a far wider area of course.
Travis in this key doesn't have the "new and improved Death Glove" from NMH3, and I didn't see a satellite laser in the trailer anyway.

Still doesn't make sense my guy!
Don't have to explain it; it is stated to be part of Tanjiro's abilities. If you want an explanation, it can easily be a speed amp for example, though I am not interested in discussing lore in a versus match about something established.

This seems to be from his fight with Akaza, which is laughable because Tanjiro's inner monologue repeatedly states that he can't even remotely dodge Akaza's attacks and can only either block or shift to avoid instant death, when Akaza wasn't exactly utterly blitzing him as this argument implies.
From Tanjiro's inner monologue, if it wasn't for the precog, Akaza would be utterly blitzing him. And yes, Tanjiro dodged some of Akaza's precog'd attacks.
It also comes from an explicit statement that Tanjiro's new ability gave him movement superior to his immature body and slower reflexes, as well as dodging multiple of Muzan's attacks, which are stated to be too fast to see (and superior to Akaza, who is too fast to see for Tanjiro while casual), with twists and turns.
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Even besides that, Tanjiro's other abilities being basically magic and blatantly supernatural do not let him suddenly violate basic logic that every single person understands. X + 1 > X. That's not an arguable thing. It's just an objective fact about reality. And unless we're somehow told in-universe that that is no longer the case, and the rest of the series makes sense with that in mind, we consider it to be the case for fiction as well. And would you look at that, nothing of the sort in KnY because that would be ******* ridiculous.

This is also avoiding the entire issue that these feats, if they existed at all, would cause for the rest of the verse. If you can attack seven times compared to your opponent's one, you'd have to be genuinely ******* stupid to somehow not hit those, because your opponent has far less time to react to your actions while you have more time to react to theirs. Simply put, if that feat ever happened, it would be nothing but a massive anti-feat for the faster person rather than a feat for the skill of the defender, because basic common sense tells you to stop doing things that have repeatedly failed to work.
Again, not saying an explanation is impossible; if you want explanations that makes sense you come up with plausible ones, such as this being combined with a speed amp either inherently or an improvement through training (amps based on will power is not uncommon in the verse). But this is something Tanjiro is well established to be able to do.
This is like saying that we should pretend that the Body Replacement Technique from Naruto doesn't exist, because the explanation given by the author isn't detailed enough to account for all of its feats (such as being used mid-air, and being used while restrained).
 
Yes, THAT'S accepted via statements. But that, as a concept, is logic-breaking. It's beyond logic, while someone literally predicting moves is not. It's still within our realm of logic, so we can apply our own logic to it. If Tanjiro can not logically physically move fast enough to block the hit he sees coming, then he can't. There's no other way around it. Like I said previously, all the proves is that Tanjiro COULD have blocked the attack had he seen it coming.
 
It is stated that the precog gave him movements comparable to people on a whole different level than him in both body and reflexes. Not just "it allows him to predict moves".

To not divert from the match, lets just say that Tanjiro enhances this with speed amps; with amps via. emotion being common in the series.
 
Alright so good news, Travis doesn't actually resist fear manipulation, I looked at the scans and it says that while he's playing the game, his brain experiences intense emotions- while he doesn't feel them in the game, that doesn't mean he actually resist them, after all the guy writing the fax is warning Travis of those side effects, wouldn't make much sense if he was feeling them.

This doesn't change the fact that I think the great majority of your arguments are wrong, it just doesn't matter as this match is a stomp. Also, stop being an asshole, you're incredibly unpleasant to debate with.
 
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It is stated that the precog gave him movements comparable to people on a whole different level than him in both body and reflexes. Not just "it allows him to predict moves".

To not divert from the match, lets just say that Tanjiro enhances this with speed amps; with amps via. emotion being common in the series.
Ok, then it's a stat amp too, not just precog. You should've just said that from the start.
 
Alright so good news, Travis doesn't actually resist fear manipulation, I looked at the scans and it says that while he's playing the game, his brain experiences intense emotions- while he doesn't feel them in the game, that doesn't mean he actually resist them, after all the guy writing the fax is warning Travis of those side effects, wouldn't make much sense if he was feeling them.

This doesn't change the fact that I think the great majority of your arguments are wrong, it just doesn't matter as this match is a stomp. Also, stop being an asshole, you're incredibly unpleasant to debate with.
Good news for Travis perhaps since he was unlikely to win. Had trouble finding the scan; can you quote what it says to make future CRT easier, or at least identify the fax number or its level for reference?

Won't respond to the final part as I prefer more respect and politeness in discussions.
 
It's seems Travis is more likely to win the argument given for Tanjiro being able to do something that is Physically impossible is pretty stupid and kinda NFL so mine vote goes to Travis
 
I wanna play through the entirety of TSA first, I've already found some feats to calc. Here's the scan, anyway (messed up the pics order, oops). It's definitely some sort of unconventional resistance, but I'm not sure it applies to straight-up resisting fearhax.

Either way, Shadow, I don't want you to misunderstand me, I don't think you're a piece of shit or anything, I'm just recommending you to keep track on how heated you get during a debate, I have the same issue, eh, that's the only reason I even am pointing it out.
 
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