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Triceratops vs Elephant

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So this match... Eh, it's going to be a weird one. So the weight range of both triceratops and elephants are pretty much the same, with Triceratops going from 6 to 10 tonnes with a smaller complete specimen weighing in at 5.4 tonnes whereas elephants go from 5.2 to 6.9 tonnes with the largest individual having been measured at 10.4 tonnes. Assuming typical size ranges would mean the Triceratops would have a noticeable edge in weight (8 tonnes vs 6.05 tonnes) whereas going off the largest individuals would give the elephant a very slight edge (10.4 tonnes vs 10 tonnes).

As for their build... The triceratops has fairly short horns, going about 1 meter, maybe 1.5 meters if infographics are preferable. The tusks of an elephant, on the other hand, can go up to 3.5 meters in length, although I can't exactly find average figures for tusk length. The skull of an elephant is six inches thick in some places and can reduce pressure due to surface area shenanigans. The triceratops... I don't think anyone really measured the thickness of a triceratops skull, though that's likely because fossils are rocks, not bone. It's frill, however, would widen the skull's surface area by quite a bit. Elephants have fairly thin skin for such a large animal, with wildlife charities repeating the ballpark figure of one inch. Triceratops skin isn't something we'll know the thickness of since we only know what it would have looked like from skin impressions (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triceratops#Skin ). In which case, more than likely it would feel leathery, but I don't think that's really going to help or harm the creature in any way. It wouldn't be thick enough to keep T. Rex from preying on it, granted, but still.

In regards to intelligence, the elephant is at a clear advantage. Elephants are one of the most intelligent land animals on the planet right now and have exhibited practices similar to those of tribal peoples. Elephant tusks were known to be used for many purposes (see "Why do elephants have ivory tusks" here: https://www.worldwildlife.org/stories/what-is-ivory-and-why-does-it-belong-on-elephants ). Triceratops... Eh, they aren't very bright. They are primarily solitary animals based on fossil evidence and it's likely that the species only really used their horns for courtship. This should make it more likely that an elephant would impale a triceratops than a triceratops would impale an elephant.

That being said, both combatants start 20 meters from each other. Everything else is SBA. Here are their profiles:

Triceratops' Profile
Elephant's Profile

Who takes this?

Triceratops: 0
Elephant: 0
Inconclusive: 0
 
I thought intelligence won’t matter (I can’t think of many complex strategies a lone elephant could pull off on just a triceratops trying to fight it), but I’m curious how self BFR works when it comes to fear. Elephant’s specifically can use their trunks to make a very loud and frightening noise which has scared off many similar animals easily consistently. So if the elephant scares the triceatop would SBA have it come right back, or would it fully flee specifically because the opponent caused it to do so?

Otherwise, I lean a bit to the triceatop because it survived T Rex’s consistently and that overall comes off as saying it has a lot more tankiness and survivability than the elephant, but maybe that actually says more about the T. rex than the other way around.
 
I thought intelligence won’t matter (I can’t think of many complex strategies a lone elephant could pull off on just a triceratops trying to fight it), but I’m curious how self BFR works when it comes to fear. Elephant’s specifically can use their trunks to make a very loud and frightening noise which has scared off many similar animals easily consistently. So if the elephant scares the triceatop would SBA have it come right back, or would it fully flee specifically because the opponent caused it to do so?
it's leaving/giving up via fear hax so SBA would actually allow that to happen
 
t Rex roar would be way scarier and trikes have dueled with rexes
T. rex can’t roar. Granted apparently we are finding they are more complex vocals than we thought, but I think that’s more like a bird’s call than an elephant’s extremely loud trumpet like blast.
 
T. rex can’t roar. Granted apparently we are finding they are more complex vocals than we thought, but I think that’s more like a bird’s call than an elephant’s extremely loud trumpet like blast.
would still be loud
 
Just noticed triceratops somehow truimph against spino. That makes no sense.

Anyways, another advantage for the elephant is that he is I think taller than the triceratops and his tusks also point downwards. So it will be easier for him to attack the triceratops than it attacking him.
intelligence won’t matter
It actually does matter cuz according to Sba they would fight in Central Park. It should grant the elephant a lot of advantages like pushing trees onto the Triceratops to stun it cuz he has a much higher intelligence.

However, Triceratops often fight with T-Rexes which are way stronger than elephants. Their shield-shaped skull also seems to be able to give them a lot of protections. They are also more durable.

I will hold back my vote for now.
 
Do you mabye want to change where the battle takes place to a savanna or the Hell Creak Formation
 
These animals would be fairly evenly matched in terms of size, weapons, etcetera. More than one might expect.

The proboscidean has the advantage of reach via longer tusks, arguably better weapons due to tusks being harder and confirmed use of them in battle, as well as the trunk as an extra weapon, and intelligence. The intelligence and the hardness of the weapons is probably a minor factor, and the trunk is only a secondary weapon, not a major factor either.

The ceratopsid has the advantage of more experience against predators its own size and a frill for at least some protection. Although elephants do fight other elephants, and the frill wasn't all that good as armour.

Overall, I'd lean towards the elephant at the moment mostly due to reach, but it's not at all uneven.
 
These animals would be fairly evenly matched in terms of size, weapons, etcetera. More than one might expect.

The proboscidean has the advantage of reach via longer tusks, arguably better weapons due to tusks being harder and confirmed use of them in battle, as well as the trunk as an extra weapon, and intelligence. The intelligence and the hardness of the weapons is probably a minor factor, and the trunk is only a secondary weapon, not a major factor either.

The ceratopsid has the advantage of more experience against predators its own size and a frill for at least some protection. Although elephants do fight other elephants, and the frill wasn't all that good as armour.

Overall, I'd lean towards the elephant at the moment mostly due to reach, but it's not at all uneven.
trike has more mass. ggs
 
Spino scales to 11,936 newtons
Trike scales to T. rex, which scale to 12,800 pounds of force or 56937.236 newtons
56937.236/11,936=4.77021079088
Trike~T. rex > Spino
Any logical person would say triceratops stand no chance against a spino. That is ridiculous.
The scaling system is so dumb. Scaling doesn’t mean you are as powerful. Like an average human can definitely hurt John cena they wscale to him but they are way weaker than him
 
Any logical person would know triceratops stand no chance against a spino. That is ridiculous.
The scaling system is so dumb. Scaling doesn’t mean you are as powerful. Like an average human can definitely hurt John cena they wscale to him but they are way weaker than him
I'm pretty sure IRL Spino's weren't all that crazy, and basically feasted on (almost) exclusively fish. They were certainly no match for a T-Rex unlike their movie counterpart, and Trike's are able to defend (and IIRC have outright killed by wounding) Rex's. Not gonna say they're 1:1, but I do recall hearing IRL Spino's are kinda overrated.
 
A Trike is gonna basically cripple an elephant if they charge at each other. Those horns are actually built for real combat unlike an Elephant's tusks which are more useful as survival tools than weapons. Not only that but it has a better stance for keeping balance and worse of all the beak on a Trike is actually surprisingly strong too, so if it decides to start biting the Elephant as well then that shit is gonna hurt.
 
Any logical person would say triceratops stand no chance against a spino. That is ridiculous.
The scaling system is so dumb. Scaling doesn’t mean you are as powerful. Like an average human can definitely hurt John cena they wscale to him but they are way weaker than him
Spinos were actually weaker than a T-Rex despite being bigger. They were mostly quadrupedal, had a mouth that was designed to snatch far smaller prey, and weren't the mini-Kaiju portrayed in Jurassic Park 3 and early speculations by any means.

They were more like a crocodilian in many ways.
 
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Elephants aren't completely lacking experience against foes their own size given they fight other elephants, but Triceratops definitely edges out in experience against all manner of large opponents, since in addition to fighting their own kind they also fight large predators like T-Rex.

Elephant for its part clearly edges out in intelligence, but this doesn't actually translate to some brilliant strategist. It does however have the intelligence to figure out its advantages and disadvantages and use them to fight.

The elephant has the better reach, but for this one at least the Triceratops is heavier. I guess if they charge right at each other we have to figure out whether the tusks land a fatal blow or if they break or glance off the frill leading to the horns reaching, and if the horns are then the thing that lands the fatal blow.
 
Elephants aren't completely lacking experience against foes their own size given they fight other elephants, but Triceratops definitely edges out in experience against all manner of large opponents, since in addition to fighting their own kind they also fight large predators like T-Rex.

Elephant for its part clearly edges out in intelligence, but this doesn't actually translate to some brilliant strategist. It does however have the intelligence to figure out its advantages and disadvantages and use them to fight.

The elephant has the better reach, but for this one at least the Triceratops is heavier. I guess if they charge right at each other we have to figure out whether the tusks land a fatal blow or if they break or glance off the frill leading to the horns reaching, and if the horns are then the thing that lands the fatal blow.
Those tusks are getting shattered by a ramming contest with a Trike.
 
Those tusks are getting shattered by a ramming contest with a Trike.
Absolutely. The tusks are not only physically more brittle but they are also curved. That way, upon contact they will act as a level and break even more easily. They will definitely shatter in a few strikes.
 
Elephants aren't completely lacking experience against foes their own size given they fight other elephants, but Triceratops definitely edges out in experience against all manner of large opponents, since in addition to fighting their own kind they also fight large predators like T-Rex.

Elephant for its part clearly edges out in intelligence, but this doesn't actually translate to some brilliant strategist. It does however have the intelligence to figure out its advantages and disadvantages and use them to fight.

The elephant has the better reach, but for this one at least the Triceratops is heavier. I guess if they charge right at each other we have to figure out whether the tusks land a fatal blow or if they break or glance off the frill leading to the horns reaching, and if the horns are then the thing that lands the fatal blow.
horns that point straight are far less likely to break than curved tusks
 
yep, spinos were simply not built for taking on large 10+ ton prey like the Rex was
Spinos had long thin jaws with thin teeth for gripping fish. Not suited for large prey at all. Think a Gharial.

T-Rex on the other hand? Let's just say when scientists find a dinosaur they can tell if it was killed by a T-Rex because they leave gigantic holes punched straight through the bone by their teeth. The only predator that literally plowed its teeth straight through bone with every bite.
 
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Spinos had long thin jaws with thin teeth for gripping fish. Not suited for large prey at all.

T-Rex on the other hand? Let's just say when scientists find a dinosaur they can tell if it was killed by a T-Rex because they leave gigantic holes punched straight through the bone by their teeth. The only predator that literally plowed its teeth straight through bone with every bite.
Exactly
 
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