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General Changes
AP/Dura
(Obviously Dexter is affected, and including Doakes, Little Chino and Brian Moser)
Some of them downscales, like Arthur Michell from having managed to hold his own against Dex and overpowered him when offguarding him which makes Street level+, however he would still scales to Dex in terms of durability, being able to tank being tackled, hit with a shovel and hit with the hood of a car by Dex
Speed
This accepted calc puts the cast of the main show at Subsonic c/r speed (52m/s)(Dexter, Little Chino and Brian Moser are affected)
Both Mitchell and Doakes would downscale from Dexter, since they can keep up and even hit him but only when caught offguard, so they are Superhuman in c/r speed
Lifting Strength
Dexter should be upgraded to "At least Class 1, possibly higher" from these reasons:- Dexter snapped Dan's neck very easily, with almost no efforts and only by twisting his wrists
- Dexter snapped Skinner's neck with a broken arm, so likely using one
- Dexter crushed Miguel's neck by pulling on a garotte wire
- Dexter easily crushed Logan's neck
- Dexter easily lifts up Luis with almost a single arm
- Dexter gaining the advantage over Ray, who is on steroids and can wrestle with up to four police officers for some time
Doakes could wrestle with Dexter while having been caught by surprise, so he should be Class 1 since he's not that far from Dexter's strength
Arthur Mitchell could very briefly wrestle with Dex and also restrained him against a wall when Dexter is caught offguard, so he should be At least Peak Human
Individual Changes
Dexter
With the new show out, Dexter would have a second key for his Original Sin self since he is less experienced as a killer and much younger
so he would be Street level, Athletic Human LS, Superhuman Speed with Supersonic Perception, and Athletic to Peak Stamina for his OS key
This is the following abilities added with the new key
so he would be Street level, Athletic Human LS, Superhuman Speed with Supersonic Perception, and Athletic to Peak Stamina for his OS key
This is the following abilities added with the new key
- Peak Human with Superhuman Speed
- Genius Intelligence
- Fourth Wall Awareness
- Preparation
- Martial Arts
- Weapon Mastery
- Stealth Mastery
- Social Influencing
- Sleep Manipulation/ Poison Manipulation (With the use of chloroform or M99)
- Information Analysis
- Likely Resistance to Empathic Manipulation
- Added Berserk Mode to adult Dexter's abilities
- Changed adult Dexter's stamina to just straight up Peak Human (Via upscaling from his younger self and having somewhat better feats)
Brian Moser
Just like Dexter, Brian should be have a new key for his Original Sin self, having made enough feats and appearances to earn it
He would be Street level, Athletic/Peak Human in speed, Peak Human LS and Above Average Stamina
He would also have these new following abilities for his key
He would be Street level, Athletic/Peak Human in speed, Peak Human LS and Above Average Stamina
He would also have these new following abilities for his key
- Peak Human Physical Characteristics
- Genius Intelligence
- Likely Martial Arts (Not sure if this could work as a combat feat since he mostly blitzed Harry)
- Weapon Mastery
- Stealth Mastery
- Social Influencing
- Likely Resistance to Empathic Manipulation
- Has exceed Dexter's sets of abilities and skills and impresses him with how he completely rids of blood from corpses despite being himself Genius
- Brian mentioned to have taken the place of the real Rudy Cooper and went on to work at the hospital as a Surgical Specialist in Prosthetic Medicine. What makes this so impressive is given his conditions, as he wouldn't have much time taking these courses after being released from the psych ward at 21, giving him limited experience and education, meaning he taught this by himself and never went to take the required studies for, which takes a masters in biology, kinesiology and biomedical engineering. This is highly impressive, even more considering that he worked at the hospital for some prolonged period of time as well as being convincing enough that he doesn't stand out entirely and being suspicious.
- Brian is capable of completely ridding the blood of a corpse by letting him bleed out upside down and than freezing it to cold temperatures, and then surgically cutting the body in pieces to display it in various places. To freeze the bodies, he used Liquid Nitrogen, which was noted by Batista that only "Lab Rats" would know how to safely used, which clearly shows that he has high level knowledge in Chemistry. Additionally, his technique highly impressedDexter, who is himself an experienced Serial Killer trained by Harry, and even claimed that whoever did that exceeded his sets of skills. And like already mentioned, he was released from the psych ward at 21, giving him limited experience and education, meaning he taught this by himself.
- Knowledgeable in forensics and makes sure that his crimes scenes are completely clean from any evidence that could bring him trouble. Something that even Dexter mentioned when the police were investigating his ice truck, claiming that they wouldn't find anything that could point towards the killer.
- Brian has knowledge in the medical fields as well as in the body anatomy. This was evidently shown when trying to keep Tony Tucci alive while cutting some of his limbs like the leg. Additionally, Brian keeps chopping up people in body parts which were apparently separated on a surgical level
- Very good at faking emotions and being like a normal person, like everyone else. He even managed to get a clean bill from the psych ward at 21 year old even though he was still feeling like he did ever since his mother's death, which would be nearly impossible to hide his tendencies in front of doctors specialized in psychology for an extended period of time. Brian managed to get Debra to fall in love with him very quickly over the course of weeks. At just first glance, she was already onto him and greatly accepted after he asked to get dinner with him. She also mentioned multiple times, that she never felt this way with someone before with Moser. Even asked her for marriage which she accepted. She loved Brian so much that even after being kidnapped by him, she was still convinced that it wasn't truly him making those decisions and there was still good left inside. Brian, on the opposite, is not in love with her and actually despises Debra, because she thought of herself as the "Real Family" to his younger brother, instead of Dex's real father. In short, Brian very well faked emotions in order to keep a "relationship" with Debra, who was already in love in several weeks, despite hating her. Managed to get close with Dexter and became friends without him being suspicious of Brian as a killer or someone that deserved the code, despite his near supernatural intuition towards potential killers. As a 25 years old, Brian was able to get close with his ex-social worker, Barbara over playing Bingo. He very well faked empathy towards to old lady, gaining her acceptance really quickly, even asking her to dinner. However, it was all for show, because during said "dinner", he kills Barb by separating her in pieces using a chainsaw
- Shown to be capable of tracking down people, like his brother or many of his past either in foster homes or in the psych ward like his social worker Barbara, his nurse who was selling his medications Raul, Blake Kersten who trapped him in a closet as a kid and Felix Woodward who stole food from Brian's plate
- From the very beginning of the season, the Ice Truck Killer’s murders are not random. Each kill is carefully orchestrated not just to challenge law enforcement, but to capture Dexter’s attention. The murders are clean, bloodless, and staged with almost artistic precision—details that are designed specifically to intrigue Dexter, who is himself a forensic blood spatter analyst and a covert serial killer. Brian studies Dexter closely and understands what would captivate his attention, suggesting he has been watching him for some time. The first major sign that the Ice Truck Killer is trying to communicate directly with Dexter comes when he leaves a severed doll head in Dexter's freezer—a personal and unmistakable message. From then on, it becomes clear that the killer knows who Dexter is and is trying to send him cryptic messages that evoke buried childhood memories. These staged killings become increasingly symbolic, aimed at jogging Dexter’s repressed memories of their shared traumatic past: the brutal murder of their mother and their time in a shipping container soaked in blood. Brian escalates his game by setting up crime scenes that mimic aspects of Dexter's own mind and history. The colorfully painted fingernails on one victim, for example, directly link to a memory Dexter has suppressed from childhood. These calculated choices are not just artistic flair—they are memory triggers. Brian wants Dexter to remember who he really is, and more importantly, who they are to each other. Rather than revealing himself outright, Brian slowly chips away at Dexter’s mental barriers. He understands that a direct confrontation would likely be rejected or misunderstood, so he opts for a more psychological approach. He is patient, allowing Dexter to unravel the mystery piece by piece, encouraging a sense of shared identity and mutual understanding without revealing his own identity too soon. One of the boldest parts of Brian’s plan is when he inserts himself directly into Dexter’s life under the alias "Rudy Cooper." He begins dating Debra Morgan, Dexter’s foster sister, in an effort to get closer to Dexter without raising suspicion. This move is a masterclass in manipulation. By becoming romantically involved with Debra, Brian gains access to Dexter’s personal and family life while maintaining the illusion of a charming, well-adjusted professional. Even as Rudy, Brian carefully manages his interactions with Dexter to subtly influence him, encourage their bond, and test his readiness to accept their true connection. All of this is done without triggering Dexter’s suspicion—a testament to Brian's social intelligence and emotional control. Eventually, Brian reveals to Dexter that they are brothers—both born into trauma, both products of the same violent origin. He sees Dexter not just as a sibling, but as a kindred spirit, someone who shares his dark instincts and could finally make him feel less alone in the world. Brian’s ultimate goal is not to harm Dexter, but to unite with him. He even offers to kill together, seeing it as a way to strengthen their bond. In the final act of his plan, Brian attempts to remove the last barrier between them—Debra. He kidnaps her and offers Dexter the chance to kill her as a symbol of his commitment to their shared life. For Brian, this is not an act of malice, but one of twisted love: if Dexter can abandon his adopted family and embrace his blood brother, they can be truly free together. But this miscalculation proves fatal. Dexter, governed by his moral code and loyalty to Debra, ultimately rejects Brian’s offer and kills him instead.
Arthur Mitchell
- Added Weapon Mastery
- Added Social Influencing
- Changed his stamina to Athletic
- Changed his movement speed to Athletic Human
Doakes
- Added Stealth Mastery
- Added Social Influencing
Added Possibly Information Analysis- Added Marksmanship
Harrison
Harrison could break a wrestling champion's arm, so he should be Street level and around Athletic to probably Peak Human in LS
He could also have Photographic Memory since he remembered his mother being killed in front him while months old which would be impossible in real life
He could also have Photographic Memory since he remembered his mother being killed in front him while months old which would be impossible in real life
Verse
Made a rework of the verse
Conclusion
so that's pretty much it I guessAgree: HorrorHistory, Employe, Johi13, King_Dom470, ThePrimalHunter, FinePoint (Staff Vote)
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