Unicron VS Darkseid

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Die!


Both true forms
Chaotic Evil: 2

Lawful Evil: 1

Inconclusive:

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

darkseid has the ALE? if you have it then Mind hax of such a level that is ALE> mind hax The Emperor of Mankind.

 

[Ogbunabali]

The type 5 Acausality actually stomps Darkseid.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

the ALE (only part) affected the source to cut off its connection with the new gods, that's enough to say that acausality type 5 doesn't matter

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Can't type 2 conceptual manipulation effect type 5 acausality?

Also the emperor's mindhax is on the same level as the chaos gods who have high 1-B mindhax

 

[Ogbunabali]

Can it? He also has Nonexistent Physiology.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

It depends on whether it is the non-existent type 1 of course, if it is the second, no.

The ALE comes from a 1A entity that has a long list of strings.

 

[Jockey-1337]

Chaotic Evil fra

 

[Itzmrbonezone]

There's one issue though...

Wasn't the god sphere declared as a platonic world?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Yes, but the point is that type of non-existent is unicron because type 1 means that the ALE does shit

 

[ShrekAnakin]

Unicron FRA

 

[ShrekAnakin]

bump

 

[Caleb3429]

Unicron FRA

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Yes, but the point is that type of non-existent is unicron because type 1 means that the ALE does shit

answer me this please that is an important point here

 

[Ogbunabali]

I have no idea what people are voting FRA for.

And his description makes it type 1 NEP.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Apparently no one knows why unicron has type 5 acausality

 

[Jockey-1337]

Why?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

if it is Nep 1 then ALE GG

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

is ALE standard or can it be restricted?

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

well, in avatar darkseid it is not standard but every time it precedes true Darkseid is referred to as having it.

I think this is probably a stomp

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

Hmm... You could probably make it even by restricting ALE

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Well, if he can do it.

I think you just need to destroy the unicron concept and how the Gods and the New Gods are self-conscious ideas, and their weapons are concepts and metaphors could do it

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

can Unicron harm him back?

 

[Iisdude1]

They are both 6D

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

They're 5D

 

[Iisdude1]

I forgot high 2-a doesn't exist lol. Unicron has better concept manipulation since he can remove them from the multiverse.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

the darkseid hax concepts scale at least 2 5D realms multiverse unless that multiverse has 3 5D realms that affect darkseid

 

[Iisdude1]

Range isn't important with destroying type 2 concepts I think, if you destroy one platonic concept in one universe then it will no longer exist only in the area it has been affected

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Range isn't important with destroying type 2 concepts I think, if you destroy one platonic concept in one universe then it will no longer exist only in the area it has been affected

I didn't mean range but power.

 

[Iisdude1]

Conceptually erasing unicron wouldn't work I think, his avatar was erased from history and came back, although mabye Darkseid can control him.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

well, sometimes it can be that Regenerationn of avatars = / = Regenerationn of the true being and how not to know if it was because the true unicron wanted me to return?

 

[Iisdude1]

I don't think unicron usually brings his avatars back. I am not sure where this happens though.