Upgrade Comics #1 - Giganta rework and various other additions

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

I think 'At least 5-A' is probably better tbh. It pretty effortlessly takes out Giganta and co. Wouldlnt be shocked if she's mogged som 4-B dudes with it.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Yo want tier 5 peak Superman stuff? Sure.

• Superman needs help from 5 Green Lanterns to stop a large mound of dirt (5-C)
• Literally DOZENS of Supermen and Green Lanterns have to team up to move the Earth (Low 5-B)
• Superman, Wonder Woman, and MMH all strugge to move the planet (5-B)
• Superman, Wonder Woman, and Green Lantern struggle extremely hard to move the moon (5-B)

That's not even counting Post-Flashpoint stuff or the myriad of Green Lantern feats that don't go beyond Tier 5 despite being their peaks.

Just lifting strength

And which comic is this from? Giganta makes a machine that can transfer minds. Once someone finds this comic, it can be added to intelligence

 

[XXKINGXX69]

An inexperienced casual Blue Beetle can survive hits from a bloodlusted Guy Gardner
Blue Beetle when very inexperienced also blocked an attack from Guy gardner while he was bloodlusted
Blue Beetle while holding back launches back Parasite far away

Giganta should just scale above this extremely inexperienced Jaime

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Up to 5-A from what the OP says.

Canary cry should vary, all the way up to Amazo tier

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Just lifting strength

And which comic is this from? Giganta makes a machine that can transfer minds. Once someone finds this comic, it can be added to intelligence

Read liiterally every reply since.

It's from her debut arc, i'll add t to the page soon.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

You explained why the feats apply to AP, not why it limits AP and durability to tier 5 at peak

and do you know the comic issue? And why can't giganta be 4-B scaling to Blue Beetle?

 

[Confluctor]

Let me ask you this, why would she scale to him?

Also you have to realise, Blue Beetle is 4B at peak, he doesn't always operate at that level.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Read liiterally every reply since.

It's from her debut arc, i'll add t to the page soon.

And can you recall the comic where its stated the reason why Giganta doesn't die due to strain whenever she grows is because she uses magic?

Edit: Its here, Blue Beetle 2006 #19

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Let me ask you this, why would she scale to him?

Also you have to realise, Blue Beetle is 4B at peak, he doesn't always operate at that level.

Blue Beetle holding back was already blocking hits from a bloodlusted Guy Gardner whose 4-B, as shown above. You didn't read what I sent

In Blue Beetle Vol 7 19, Blue Beetle was obviously trying his best and going at max speed to fight Giganta and literally has to attack her weak points to defeat her. Blue Beetle tried his best with his energy blasts to harm her, but couldn't slow her down. He wasn't really holding back here

 

[Confluctor]

.....what does that prove? That she is more powerful than beetle? No?! Also beetle doesn't want to hurt someone that bad... That's why he is searching for a weakness.


We are back to wanting everyone and their grandma's at 4B again. Hooray.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

.....what does that prove? That she is more powerful than beetle? No?! Also beetle doesn't want to hurt someone that bad... That's why he is searching for a weakness.


We are back to wanting everyone and their grandma's at 4B again. Hooray.

He literally wanted to hurt her very badly, shown in that scan, and that does prove she's stronger than Blue Beetle though

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

You explained why the feats apply to AP, not why it limits AP and durability to tier 5 at peak

and do you know the comic issue? And why can't giganta be 4-B scaling to Blue Beetle?

I'm showing that they aren't 4-B at their peak because they consistently struggle with much lower things.

And surprisingly yes, most superheroes don't like hurtiing people. Do you think Superman assumes every bad guy iis hisi equal? Of coure not, same with most other heroes.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

I'm showing that they aren't 4-B at their peak because they consistently struggle with much lower things.

And surprisingly yes, most superheroes don't like hurtiing people. Do you think Superman assumes every bad guy iis hisi equal? Of coure not, same with most other heroes.

What does Giganta struggle with and why is it lower than 4-B? Can you prove that Blue Beetle didn't want to harm Giganta badly even though he was using multiple attacks on her, but she tanked it?

Same thing for Etrigan

 

[Armorchompy]

I've already explained that this is not the right thread. Further messages regarding this topic will be deleted, no matter what, and might even lead to a report.

 

[Antvasima]

So do we have enough agreement to apply this now?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Ignoring everything with King

Large Planet level (Has traded blows with Wonder Woman[3][4][5], Wonder Girl[6], Hammer[7], Chemo[8], the Metal Men[9], and Congorilla[10])

• WW Scan 1: Giganta grabs her and does nothing to WW
• WW Scan 2: Giganta grabs her and does nothing to WW
• WW Scan 3: Giganta grabs her and does nothing to WW

This isn't scaling to AP in any capacity. This isn't even trading blows in any capacity.

• Wonder Girl: Fine but this is a super early WG and her scaling is for later stuff
• Hammer: He punches her and she wiffs a punch
• Chemo: This actually fits
• Congorillal: She throws no punches and is instantly put into a choke hold

The bulk of these aren't AP feat.

Class Y (Restrained Power Girl[11], Donna Troy[12], and Wonder Woman[5])

• Power Girl immediately escaped
• Donna Troy looks legit but do note she also immediately escaped
• Wonder Woman based on her other showings could likely escape on her own

Like... I guess it works but I honestly don't like it.

Large Planet level (Took hits from Wonder Girl[1], Blue Beetle[13], Wonder Woman[4], and Martian Manhunter[8])

• Being one shot by Wonder Girl isn't a durability feat
• BB is fine
• Wonder Woman usually beats her but I guess not instantly folding is a durability feat
• MMH throws one punch and notes that he doesn't want to hurt anyone. Though I guess not being KO'ed is a feat

Anyways besides those everything else looks fine.

 

[Armorchompy]

what being a c-lister rogue does to a mf

 

[Antvasima]

Qawsedf seems to make sense to me. Thank you for helping out.

 

[Antvasima]

what being a c-lister rogue does to a mf

?

 

[XXKINGXX69]

So any pages need to be unlocked? I think the changes were accepted

 

[Armorchompy]

poking fun at the fact that secondary villains like Giganta tend to barely ever get a chance to shine

 

[Antvasima]

Well, not all of the references were accepted.

 

[Antvasima]

poking fun at the fact that secondary villains like Giganta tend to barely ever get a chance to shine

Okay. What does"mf" mean?

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Okay. What does"mf" mean?

It means "*************" but not in an offensive way

 

[Armorchompy]

************. It's meme, a quote from some tweet I think

 

[Qawsedf234]

think the changes were accepted

The justificationd need to remove stuff that don't support what it's claiming. Like training blows with Wonder Woman.

 

[Antvasima]

It means "*************" but not in an offensive way

Okay. Thank you for the reply.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

bump

 

[Antvasima]

Can somebody summarise what has been accepted here so far?

 

[Qawsedf234]

somebody summarise what has been accepted here so far?

• AP: Chemo is legit, Wonder Girl is shaky, every else is bunk
• Class Y: Donna Troy is the only one that fits
• Durability: Basically just Blue Beetle

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That seems fine to use as a basis for the revisions then.