Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
If I recall correctly, the only tier 8 characters are the relevant ones, not the fodders army.Even fodder humans are 9-B in Avatar and have Massively Hypersonic reactions, so they can easily dodge gunshots
Also, the Americans would have no idea that they can literally throw fire from their arms and they'll get burned to a crisp with AoE 9-A to Tier 8 flames
The Fire Nation have their own airships to battle them, Navy forces as well, and Nukes are literally a last resort in case all others would fail, and considering the Nukes aren't readily available, the Fire Nation could attack America while they try to load the nukesIf I recall correctly, the only tier 8 characters are the relevant ones, not the army.
Even then, you forgot about nukes/radiation, chemichal weapons they could use against them, Air attacks, etc...
Honestly, I don't remember them having airships, could you show me a scan of those?The Fire Nation have their own airships to battle them, Navy forces as well, and Nukes are literally a last resort in case all others would fail, and considering the Nukes aren't readily available, the Fire Nation could attack America while they try to load the nukes
The American Continent includes South AND North America. These criteria means Brazil, Mexico, Canada, & many other places are part of the battlefield.The whole fire nation somehow gets transported to our world and wants to invade the USA as the first conquest.
-Location: entirety of the American contient.
The Zepplins from the finale. Zuko also rode in a hot air balloonHonestly, I don't remember them having airships, could you show me a scan of those?
Considering they are fighting people Who Can shoot fire from their hands, USA would opt to do all they have. The entire stockpile would be 6-C, that would be ezz
He said that only the USA specifically fights the Fire Nation. Not all of AmericaAlso, bullet piercing damage might be a thing.
& the fact that the American Army probably has prior knowledge, due to The Fire Nation being known fiction.
Alternatively, the Fire Nation army dies in inhospitable wilderness.
The American Continent includes South AND North America. These criteria means Brazil, Mexico, Canada, & many other places are part of the battlefield.
If you're evenly distributing the Fire Nation, that's very spread out.
Not to mention, the region includes jungles, rocky mountains, deserts, & snowy wastelands, among others.
& likely leaves several parts cut off from their supply lines, thrown into unfamiliar terrain filled with potential for diseases likely not native to their world, & thus, which they may not have immunity to. Have fun dying of tubercolosis, pneumonia, & everything under the sun.
Not to mention poisons/venoms of several animals potentially, possibly, & hot weather unfavorable to armored firebenders.
Even with just United States of America itself, there's places like Nevada & New Orleans (Bowl shaped, so a pain to leave, at risk of flooding.) that are plenty inhospitable or dangerous.
I think The Real World takes this easily.
Exact words were:He said that only the USA specifically fights the Fire Nation. Not all of America
Considering the Fire Nation had no problem with the terrain of the Earth Kingdom (with mountains, deserts and other climates), Air Temples (Steep Mountains and cold weather), and Water Tribes (Ice & Water), The USA isn't going to be that different.Exact words were:
"The whole fire nation somehow gets transported to our world and wants to invade the USA as the first conquest.
-Location: entirety of the American contient."
Wanting to invade somewhere does not mean being in that place, or else a lot of invasions would go a lot differently. & he SAID The American Continent, which is, by definition, Canada, America, Mexico, Brazil, etc.
& besides, I doubt many of the people or animals would be too appreciative of these new forces in their territory. & it sure won't stop the weather, nor the terrain being noncompliant. You can't just have the sun stop shining down on Mexico, for example.
& whether you include the USA or not, it's still an unfriendly environment:
As of the 2010 census, the United States consists of 11,078,300 Census Blocks. Of them, 4,871,270 blocks totaling 4.61 million square kilometers were reported to have no population living inside them. Despite having a population of more than 310 million people, 47 percent of the USA remains unoccupied. Apr. 23, 2014
The USA means a lot of unfavorable land to spread Fire Nation troops out over, & a lot more time where their inferior travel time & whether accomodations probably make things harsher for them.
But those were all organized seiges they knew they were going to do & planned for. The circumstances of their arrival here don't seem so arranged, not can they be guaranteed to have the proper clothes for the climate. Not to mention the question of how their vehicles & supply lines are distributed.Considering the Fire Nation had no problem with the terrain of the Earth Kingdom (with mountains, deserts and other climates), Air Temples (Steep Mountains and cold weather), and Water Tribes (Ice & Water), The USA isn't going to be that different.
The other countries also can't help the USA here as its outside help. And since they have no knowledge of the Fire Nation, they wouldn't know what to do to them at first, especially when guns don't work due to them being 9-C and Firebenders having 9-B durability
And to comment on this:Considering the Fire Nation had no problem with the terrain of the Earth Kingdom (with mountains, deserts and other climates), Air Temples (Steep Mountains and cold weather), and Water Tribes (Ice & Water), The USA isn't going to be that different.
Brazil,
The difference between this war and most recent wars involving say; the middle east and Vietnam, is that the US is the country being invaded (With the goal being to conquer the us). Which means they're extremely likely to be using total war strategies, which haven't been employed since the world wars.Hmmmm, maybe I'll build a case defending Avatar here, but I'll already say that Wokistan is mostly right. Wars aren't won by who has the bigger guns most of the time (The recent wars kinda prove that), and honestly, joules are fine to use as a method of evaluating at higher tiers, but in the lowest tiers, like 9 to 10, I'd argue that joules are less important than material properties. The system kinda breaks down there.
I think the Fire Nation is a bit underestimated here, but assuming a direct conflict, without any knowledge from one another, I'd bet on the US Army too.
Oh, my bad. I need to work on my wording a bit more still.I kinda sounded like you were saying FN could win cause of that.
It would be dangerous if the Fire Nation adapted to modern tech.I was honestly thinking vice versa. USA would definitely be able to adapt to the Fire Nation. But that'd probably be a stomp lol
I do not see how soldiers trained with military standards would be shocked at that,you can also use the same argument as the US army would also be in shock seeing humans manipulating fire.Regular Fire Nation soldiers: Sure seeing soldiers literally make fire in battle would initially be a shock, however having guns that can hit ranges far beyond a fire bender's normal range (outside of Sozin's comet maybe which is an incredibly rare situation)?
Are you forgetting the way the fire nation fights war??? The fire tanks are usually In front while the army are behind launching the rocks/long range attacksThis is something the Fire Nation will struggle with. We're talking Sniper rifles, battle rifles, Assault Rifles, and LMGs here. All these weapons that have effective ranges at hundreds of meters away, along with having suppressive fire capabilities and besides the Sniper rifles have really good ammo capacity, especially the LMGs. There's no way Fire Nation soldiers are dodging bullets, something they have zero experience in dealing with or dodging anything close to something moving at such speed. Especially with snipers who are specifically designed to be used at exceedingly long ranges in hidden areas. There's no way they're gonna be out here casually bullet timing.
That's literally what I said in the sentence my guy. Sure seeing soldiers literally make fire in battle would initially be a shock...". I was specifically talking about the shock the US soldier might have in seeing humans manipulating fire. I don't understand how you could've interpreted that in any other way.I do not see how soldiers trained with military standards would be shocked at that,you can also use the same argument as the US army would also be in shock seeing humans manipulating fire.
Are you forgetting the way the fire nation fights war??? The fire tanks are usually In front while the army are behind launching the rocks/long range attacks
The US Army would win low to mid diff. It would be better if this fight would be The US Army vs The modern avatar world