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Verse Specific Powers and Abilities Rules

Arkenis

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So this has happened too much for us not to make rules/limits around it. But VSP need better rules than just the UES stuff. I'll give examples for what I'm talking about and then what should be added as rules to better manage this. Got perms from KingTempest.

Within Naruto pages a reoccurring group of hax keep being given with the simplistic justification that High level Shinobi with vast and/or powerful chakra have consistently shown the ability to produce an aura. This is fine reasoning but the issue is blanketing it as something any character could/would do. If it's to be given the character should have an example, if not then it should be Likely so people reading the pages understand this is something that could happen not a standard in vs matches.

Additionally, some of these examples are pointless and don't convey much:
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Sakura's feeling Biju chakra here, not regular chakra. Two different things, it has the special trait of feeling distinctly different and shouldn't be an example of "kage level". But also it just feels bad/evil, it isn't madness inducing or fear haxing Sakura or Yamato right here and they aren't Kage level at all.

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This is said twice to be an illusion casted by Orochimaru. And it's likely the same thing he did to Kakashi. But even if it is just aura, not everyone does this, so why is it being labeled as though it's standard?
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It's a couple hax listed that everyone in the listing shouldn't have.

These aren't "advance" abilities, that isn't a stated or acknowledged thing in the story. Walking on water is never shown for anyone else, not even the cursed spirit who is naturally used to using cursed energy walks on water. Why would Reggie be advance? Now he scales to Todo's skill and Hakari's output/quantity?
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Same with the resistances.
Besides the heat/fire resistance, why would we scale "advance sorcerers" to Hakari's infinite cursed energy? Not tryna get into scaling, just shouldn't be there bar Yuta and Sukuna and even they're iffy since they don't have Hakari's quantity which is the other half of the required traits to resist the electricity. Soul Manipulation is its own thing, it should be given to basically the whole cast or just first grade and above.

So ghouls in Tokyo Ghoul show the ability to hear/sense at a greater level than humans, great enough it's something they have to train for. I fell into the mistake of granting this "Experienced Ghouls" section as though that's something acknowledged in the story. It isn't, and the fact no one does it to Irimi's extent, Ayato says he isn't good as Miza or Hinami, and Shirazu has to tap a wall to utilize the sensing, it comes off as not an experienced ghoul trait, but rather something activatable. I'd suggest removing entirely or labeling it as activatable in the general Ghoul pna.

Characters should have something to justify they have certain aspects that aren't regular attributes. That is, controlling energy is a standard for most vsp, senses are usually a standard, physical enhancements are usually a standard, etc.

The rules are:
  1. An ability is regular only if it is consistently shown, practiced, acknowledged, and stated within the energy system. Merely having multiple characters perform it isn't enough. An example is Chakra's Free Movement ability that ninjas learn early on, it's something shown, practiced, acknowledged and stated to be something all ninjas can do.
  2. If there is reasonable support or logic that a character could perform an ability, assign a “Likely” rating for clarity.
  3. Do not apply leveling unless the story clearly defines and characterizes such (Jonin, Special Grade Sorcerer, Daikaiju, Liners, etc)
 
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1. Should obviously also include statements. In fact, those should be the primary way to handle these.

The sentiment is good in any case.
  1. An ability is regular only if it is consistently shown, practiced, acknowledged, and stated within the energy system. Merely having multiple characters perform it isn't enough. An example is Chakra's Free Movement ability that ninjas learn early on, it's something shown, practiced, acknowledged and stated to be something all ninjas can do.
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Consistently shown or practiced parts are unnecessary, so they should be removed, as none of those prove that the ability in question applies to the entire category, MCs consistently show or practice their main ability or abilities, but that does not mean everyone can use them.
I agree with DonttalkDT that statements are the primary way to handle this, so it should be changed accordingly.
An ability is considered standard only if it is acknowledged or explicitly stated within the energy system or physiology. Simply having multiple characters perform it is not enough. One example of a valid statement is saying that members or all members of a category can do this, for example, gods have the power to rule over concepts or all gods have the power to rule over concepts. Another example is using a statement that represents the entire category in general terms, such as saying “a god has the power to rule over concepts,” which is another way of saying that all gods have that ability, depending on the context. In these cases, the ability in question is clearly acknowledged or defined within the energy system or physiology.
 
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Consistently shown or practiced parts are unnecessary, so they should be removed, as none of those prove that the ability in question applies to the entire category, MCs consistently show or practice their main ability or abilities, but that does not mean everyone can use them.
It's not about the entire category, its if the characters will/can do it. Please give an example of what you're talking about for the Mcs thing cuz I think you're misunderstanding the point.
 
Where would this go also? Could it just be a rule section in the UES page?
I'd say it should be its own page similar to this one:
 
I'd say it should be its own page similar to this one:
Will write something up.
 
I'd say it should be its own page similar to this one:
I agree with this.
 
What would it be called since there's already the standard format for vsp?
 
Not sure for a good picture but here's it right now.
It seems good to me, but wouldn't it be better to place that information in a section at the end of the following page instead? 🙏


@DontTalkDT @DarkDragonMedeus @LephyrTheRevanchist
Huh, I actually had forgotten we did have that page. Yeah, if we want to avoid having extra pages unnecessarily, simply adding a rules section there would be fine too.
So is this acceptable for the other staff members here as well? 🙏
 
Thank you.

Should the accepted revision here be applied now then? 🙏
 
Thank you.

Should the accepted revision here be applied now then? 🙏
The stuff in op for the three verses, can that just be removed or should I make another thread for the supporters to discuss the issue with what they were adding?
 
I have unlocked that page for you. Tell me here when you are done please. 🙏
 
Thank you. I have locked that page again. Is there anything left to do here, or should we close this thread? 🙏
 
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