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How many people are against it?I'm fine with the removal honestly.
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How many people are against it?I'm fine with the removal honestly.
3 staff (that aren't CGM) for removing it, 2 staff against removing it but IDK if you guys wanted an overwhelming majority or not.How many people are against it?
Five staff in favor actually, Mori, tempest, dmua, clover, and now griffin3 staff (that aren't CGM) for removing it, 2 staff against removing it but IDK if you guys wanted an overwhelming majority or not.
Ive messaged DDM about this, waiting for his responseSince Bambu debates DDM's vote because it is leaning, can someone double check the other five?
Well, DMUA's only a calc guy, but he's knowledgeable on the verse (on Kirito's end) so I'd say that's a good call.
If it's true that four, five including DMUA, agree with the removal, then it should be removed. DDM's unclear vote aside (though someone could ask him to come back around, given Bambu debates it).
I've been asking the same thing, glad we could come to a consensus on that....then I question if we're reading the same thread, but accept that a consensus was reached.
Yes, I've been following this thread and the discussion you've all been having when given the time (Even regarding the part in the rule violation thread pertaining to this match). I think the debate in the match thread itself were lack luster in explaining why either character won (.I will presume you've read everything relevant and are saying this. If DDM switches to a concrete position that, yes, everyone there voted with no proper basis to do so, then I question if we're reading the same thread, but accept that a consensus was reached.
Just any decent majority would do, hell at this point I'll even accept it since there is a majority at all. I just take offense with the dishonesty used to push for its deletion.3 staff (that aren't CGM) for removing it, 2 staff against removing it but IDK if you guys wanted an overwhelming majority or not.
This is, at least, reasonable, though I don't think every match requires paragraph after paragraph of agonizing detail- I find that is generally unnecessary. I do disagree but this, at least, is sensible enough. Feel free to remove it.Yes, I've been following this thread and the discussion you've all been having when given the time (Even regarding the part in the rule violation thread pertaining to this match). I think the debate in the match thread itself were lack luster in explaining why either character won (though that's likely due to me debating with full blown paragraphs in VS matches) but there were a few minor grips I had and would prefer that match just be removed and if people wanted, remade since this match and the debate had within his causing issues.
Fair enough. I've removed the match.This is, at least, reasonable, though I don't think every match requires paragraph after paragraph of agonizing detail- I find that is generally unnecessary. I do disagree but this, at least, is sensible enough. Feel free to remove it.
Has this match been removed yet, seems a lot a people agree with it being removedKingTempest posted a comment agreeing with the removal, which Bambu deleted because... I really don't know.
But he does agree with it.
Technically it's only three Staff Members, because DDM is leaning towards removing it and the other two people aren't really staff as much as they are just special roles (like CGM for example), but there's still an overwhelming amount of support for the removal.
It's been removed for some time nowHas this match been removed yet, seems a lot a people agree with it being removed
Removed.Kazuya VS Omni-Man (0-7-0)
earth’s mightiest “hero” vs The power of the devil himself Speed is equal Both are Multi-Continental Base kazuya is used After he shot down a satellite. Omni-Man was asked to find and take down kazuya mishima. After fighting in the city for a while he was getting overwhelmed by The devil. And...vsbattles.com
Kazuya isn't High 6-A anymore
Can you remove this tooRemoved.
So this request got overlooked but Garou's Victory over Lightning needs to be removed from his profile. The former is no longer 5-C and the latter went through a bunch of changes since then. Turning the match into a giga stomp in the latter's favor.
Removed.Can you remove this too
Don't see a High 6-A key on Mori's page do it's possible it was removed due to some changes but it never got removed from Luffy's page. Also I believe One Piece characters are going to be downgraded as well so I remove it.Funny Monkey vs King Monkey
Funny Monkey vs King Monkey Speed is equalized Distance of 5 meters SBA Monkey King Mode and Gear 5th are used The location is your house Monkey D. Luffy: Mori Jin: Mash solos both (Icon):vsbattles.com
This is on Luffy's profile as a victory but not on Mori's profile. Should it be removed?
Not sure what changed but I guess you can remove it if it's no longer on Thanos profile.Shigeo Kageyama vs Thanos (MCU)
Shigeo Kageyama vs Thanos Fighting Location: Titan Starting Distance: 50 meters Both in-character Speed Equalized 100% Mob is used and Thanos has the Incomplete Infinity Gauntlet with only the Power and Space Stones. White T Poison: 7 (@XSOULOFCINDERX, @Reploidnoridomix, @M_Animefan...vsbattles.com
Thanos does not have this match up in his page, I don´t know if is outdated or not, can I remove it?
Spider-Man still has better lifting strength and is more skilled at dodging and fighting opponents who are much stronger than him so he probably still has the same win conditions of pinning Nagant and restraining her. Not sure about the other matches thoughQuestion about some versus thread results.
Lady Nagant has fights against Kiritsugu, Dystnine, and Spider-Man.
Due to her upgrades into High 6-C and her range upgrade to Hundreds of Kilometers, should these fight be removed?
I'd have to ask. How can Spider-Man reach her with the range disadvantage? Her range is Hundreds of Kilometers.Spider-Man still has better lifting strength and is more skilled at dodging and fighting opponents who are much stronger than him so he probably still has the same win conditions of pinning Nagant and restraining her. Not sure about the other matches though
Spider-Man can fire web projectiles at her and use the terrain to hide or catch her off guard. His Spider-Sense also immensely helps with dodging. I think that his skill, agility and web shooters would help him close the distanceI'd have to ask. How can Spider-Man reach her with the range disadvantage? Her range is Hundreds of Kilometers.
She's a sniper who stays away from her opponent, say she flies up around 5 km in the air and snipe at him. Spider-Man's range is only Tens of Meters.
Even if she can't hit him, that'd be an inconclusive. This is why I mentioned her range upgrade as well.
What, did I speak unclearly?Spider-Man can fire web projectiles at her and use the terrain to hide or catch her off guard. His Spider-Sense also immensely helps with dodging. I think that his skill, agility and web shooters would help him close the distance
Don't worry, you did speak understandably.What, did I speak unclearly?
I'm pretty sure Spilxson2 argument was he could dodge with the help of his spider sense and eventually get in close enough range to use webbing. Also, the further the shot, the more time he has to dodge. I'm not saying the match shouldn't be removed, but I think you missed the point Spilxson2 was trying to make regarding your range argument.What, did I speak unclearly?
His Web Projectiles have Tens of Meters of range, he cannot reach her while she can shoot at him from several Kilometers up in the air.
"Spider-Man can fire web projectiles at her and use the terrain to hide or catch her off guard."I'm pretty sure Spilxson2 argument was he could dodge with the help of his spider sense and eventually get in close enough range to use webbing. Also, the further the shot, the more time he has to dodge. I'm not saying the match shouldn't be removed, but I think you missed the point Spilxson2 was trying to make regarding your range argument.
I interpret these as arguments for when he's close enough."Spider-Man can fire web projectiles at her and use the terrain to hide or catch her off guard."
"I think that his skill, agility and web shooters would help him close the distance."
This sounds like he's saying Spider-Man can reach her with his web projectiles and get close to her, which I've explained isn't possible.
Yes, and my thing is that he cannot get close enough. She's going to be several Kilometers out of his range and Spider-Man cannot change that.I interpret these as arguments for when he's close enough.
Stealth Proficiency (Capable of sneaking into Latveria undetected. Daredevil describes him as impossibly quiet, and has used his abilities to sneak up on his enemies)Yes, and my thing is that he cannot get close enough
She isn't going to let herself get caught like that, she'd be stupid to lower herself towards the ground if she can't find him.She's a sniper who stays away from her opponent, say she flies up around 5 km in the air and snipe at him. Spider-Man's range is only Tens of Meters.
I agree, this should be removed and then remade with these new statistics taken into account.She isn't going to let herself get caught like that, she'd be stupid to lower herself towards the ground if she can't find him.
If she can't see him she'll do what she did against Izuku when she lost line of sight. She'll stay high up in the air where he can't reach and wait until she see him. Lady Nagant is the best sniper in Japan, sniper's are use to waiting for multiple hours on end for their shot.
That situation is just an inconclusive, I feel like I'm not being clear at all. The second the fight starts she will be outside of his range and never enter his range period.
There is no in character reason why she'd get closer to Spider-Man, especially when she's a long range fighter. Izuku could catch her because he could fly and was able to boost his speed so she couldn't react to his approach.
Edit: This isn't about how this fight goes down to the end, this is about if it should be removed from their profile. Any actual discussion on the fight can be saved for a future versus thread if you want to make one. There are two other fights that I want to know if they should be removed as well.
Never got the chance to reply to this but anyway... How is this not Soul Destruction?No freeza does not, he resist soul EE/destruction, sans' hax are completely different and would still affect freeza the same way
Not anymore. As of this thread, resisting the Hakai also counts as resisting the destruction of the soul, something every monster is capable of doing to Frisk whether it's Sans, Asgore, Undyne, Flowey, or even a freakin Froggit. While you are correct that Sans' soul poison can still effect Frieza, it CAN'T kill him as stated here...Hakai is only EE resistance
Better question, when have i said that it wasn't? I said that what freeza resisted is completely different from what sans doesNever got the chance to reply to this but anyway... How is this not Soul Destruction?
It shouldn't and whoever says that it is is wrong, that depends on the type of the resistanceAlso one thing I don't get is that whenever Sans is put against an opponent that resists Soul Manipulation, it's a stomp.
The people who say it for every soul resistance are wrong, simple as thatNow that Frieza has gained a resistance to Soul Manipulation, the match is still valid? That doesn't seem to add up.
you know that i aknowledged this already right? It soul erasure, it destroying the soul via EE, what the undertale people do is attack the soul directly and destroy it with AP, something completely different then what hakai does, being "destruction" is very broad and doesn't mean much in this, does resisting deconstruction allows you to resist getting destroyed by superior AP? seriously, how is this difficult to understand? The hax are doing different things to reach a different result, therefore resisting one method doesn't make you resist the other methodsNot anymore. As of this thread, resisting the Hakai also counts as resisting the destruction of the soul, something every monster is capable of doing to Frisk whether it's Sans, Asgore, Undyne, Flowey, or even a freakin Froggit.
Because sans ignores durability even without the soul thing, that is how he killed flowey, a souless being, multiple times, and also shown when he ignores frisk's armor and defense stat in their battle, why do you think he is the only one who didn't got affected by the soul hax downgrade crt for the verse?While you are correct that Sans' soul poison can still effect Frieza, it CAN'T kill him as stated here...
- KARMA: Whatever is struck by one of Sans's attacks will suffer from this condition, for a brief period. It essentially functions as poison damage for one's SOUL. KARMA cannot exceed 40 and also cannot cause the protagonist's HP to fall below one, with the more KARMA damage is built up, the faster it drains.
Does resisting deconstruction makes you resist a normal punch from someone 10000000x stronger thab you? Because that is the difference between what hakai is and what sans doesSo how can Sans get Frieza's HP below one if he now resists an attack that not just shatters- but downright destroys the soul?