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Void Shiki vs Unicron

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As it turns out, there's a literal comic page where it says Unicron threated the Omniversal system/Transformers Omniverse.
 
Just because it says unkown doesn't mean it's not 1A, and I'm in favor of tier 0. It's normal to write unkown for an ongoing character revision, don't you know that?
Yeah but the revision isn't even applied on the profile yet, so what's even the point of commenting here.
 
Just because it says unkown doesn't mean it's not 1A, and I'm in favor of tier 0. It's normal to write unkown for an ongoing character revision, don't you know that?
No, that’s exactly what it means. Unknown was decided upon because she isn’t 1-A,but trying to find a specific tier would be hard to pinpoint.
 
No, that’s exactly what it means. Unknown was decided upon because she isn’t 1-A,but trying to find a specific tier would be hard to pinpoint.
I don't agree with the arguments presented about not being 1A, the Saber profile can be 1A through Wish Granting, while Void being lower than that is pointless
 
I don't agree with the arguments presented about not being 1A, the Saber profile can be 1A through Wish Granting, while Void being lower than that is pointless
Well, what you believe doesn't matter. What's on the profiles is what matters, and Shiki has vaguely 4-D wish-granting.
 
Because I treat Void as 0
it does not matter what you treat void as

if her profile says she is building level then she is building level
 
4D? If you consider 1A as 4D, this is your ignorance
Yep, cause Void Shiki has no real proof of being connected to good ol' root and Nasuverse magic is all 4-D minimum! If you truly want to cope seethe and mald, do it on your own time in a CRT, as far as this match is concerned she gets erased by getting breathed at wrong, and actually did BEFORE she was downgraded cause Root going tier 0 has been contested in the thread for it and that thread is currently dead.
 
it does not matter what you treat void as

if her profile says she is building level then she is building level
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Yep, cause Void Shiki has no real proof of being connected to good ol' root and Nasuverse magic is all 4-D minimum! If you truly want to cope seethe and mald, do it on your own time in a CRT, as far as this match is concerned she gets erased by getting breathed at wrong, and actually did BEFORE she was downgraded cause Root going tier 0 has been contested in the thread for it and that thread is currently dead.
I don't think there is any real proof because there is enough discussion about its connection to the root and what does the Nasuverse magic mean in at least 4D? And what does that have to do with the topic? Saber Shiki can use the root as a wish-granting tool and the Root is currently 1A, the relatedness with it and the wish-granting method being 1A and Void Shiki being the root itself are different things, claiming that the 2nd case is disproved does not and cannot disprove the first case. Are you trying to say that the root is 4D? And yes I can open a crt on this if I have enough time.
 
I don't think there is any real proof because there is enough discussion about its connection to the root and what does the Nasuverse magic mean in at least 4D? And what does that have to do with the topic? Saber Shiki can use the root as a wish-granting tool and the Root is currently 1A, the relatedness with it and the wish-granting method being 1A and Void Shiki being the root itself are different things, claiming that the 2nd case is disproved does not and cannot disprove the first case. Are you trying to say that the root is 4D? And yes I can open a crt on this if I have enough time.
The thread was... pretty extensive. I'm not gonna sit there and pretend I'm not into like 25% of Nasuverse so myself just have to read scans and go with the flow, but I can tell you the basics on how it's handled... and yeah, 2-3 years ago all Nasuverse magic was made 4-D if if doesn't have any god-tier feats.

And Saber Shiki is being downgraded so... dumpster that one. I know that because of All-Purpose requests.
 
The thread was... pretty extensive. I'm not gonna sit there and pretend I'm not into like 25% of Nasuverse so myself just have to read scans and go with the flow, but I can tell you the basics on how it's handled... and yeah, 2-3 years ago all Nasuverse magic was made 4-D if if doesn't have any god-tier feats.

And Saber Shiki is being downgraded so... dumpster that one. I know that because of All-Purpose requests.
I already know what they are saying, but what they are trying to refute is open to many interpretations, and there are even people who try to refute it because of translations, as in this wiki. So it would be very biased to read and interpret only the arguments of those who are trying to refute. This is not, and should not be, so simple that it can be simplified with just a few arguments and said "It is no longer 1A". After all, Shiki's profile is quite old and the arguments used in the rebuttal are not new. And like Robo said, if the profile says building, that character is building, and since Saber Shiki is now 1A, I will treat it as such (!) By the way, Saber and Void Shiki are different, I hope you don't consider them the same thing.
 
If you do not agree with the profile, you should create your own CRT. Other than that, we accept whatever the profile says in the vs threads, it's that simple. There is no point in arguing. Unicron stomps.
 
If you do not agree with the profile, you should create your own CRT. Other than that, we accept whatever the profile says in the vs threads, it's that simple. There is no point in arguing. Unicron stomps.
By refusing I am expressing my own opinion and that includes the fact that I don't think Unicron will win. Frankly, it's easier to review other people's arguments than to create my own CRT. And I don't think the profile will be left this way
 
By refusing I am expressing my own opinion and that includes the fact that I don't think Unicron will win. Frankly, it's easier to review other people's arguments than to create my own CRT. And I don't think the profile will be left this way
That's fine but as I said we evaluate vs threads by looking at the current status of the profiles. As long as Shiki doesn't get an upgrade Unicron is the winner of this
Frankly, it's easier to review other people's arguments than to create my own CRT. And I don't think the profile will be left this way
I agree with you on that.
 
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