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Wave vs Penny (Speed Equalized)
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Penny . for. the. win!
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Penny's swords aren't denting Grand Chariot in any way, beam haxxorz though likely will. Beam haxxorz isn't her opener though, it's more a last resort than anything.
Intelligence-wise, they're both stupid to a fault so not really much of an advantage for both.
Penny is pretty much stationary. Wave would probably bullrush her like he normally does and will actually work this time with speed equalization as opposed to him never, ever hitting Akame. That might just knock her out as speeding up will boost his attack potency enough. If not, Penny wins by strength advantage.
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Intelligence-wise, they're both stupid to a fault so not really much of an advantage for both.
Penny is pretty much stationary. Wave would probably bullrush her like he normally does and will actually work this time with speed equalization as opposed to him never, ever hitting Akame. That might just knock her out as speeding up will boost his attack potency enough. If not, Penny wins by strength advantage.
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That sort of durability is a sore case of NLF, since that implies that anyone without durability negating hax will be unable to leave a dent in him.
Anyway, even with Grand Chariot, Penny still has a significant DC advantage. While he can fly, Penny can probably match him in mobility in an urban environmen thanks to her wires. In addition, we still haven't seen her go all out, with all of her current feats being rather casual at best. She can probably match him in close combat too due to being strong enough to easily stop a speeding truck with ease. Her range with her swords also far exceeds Wave's melee attacks, allowing her to keep him at bay if she wants to.
All in all, I still feel that Penny has a significant advantage here.
Anyway, even with Grand Chariot, Penny still has a significant DC advantage. While he can fly, Penny can probably match him in mobility in an urban environmen thanks to her wires. In addition, we still haven't seen her go all out, with all of her current feats being rather casual at best. She can probably match him in close combat too due to being strong enough to easily stop a speeding truck with ease. Her range with her swords also far exceeds Wave's melee attacks, allowing her to keep him at bay if she wants to.
All in all, I still feel that Penny has a significant advantage here.
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Now that Waves second Teigu is Mastema that puts him faster then her, capable of long range attacks and Mastemas trump card allows it to immediately reflect any attack, I give the win to Wave. His Grand Fall skill with Mastema boosting it, is easily capable of Multi-City Block Level. Possibly Small Town Level.
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I wouldn't make assumptions yet. Unless you have links to the raws everything you've just said is speculation. Besides, it takes time to master a Teigu's Trump Card, assuming that Wave can use it right off the bat is absurd. We still don't know how Grand Chariot will interact with Mastema anyway, so let's not jump to conclusions.
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It's not loading for me... but I'll take your word for it.
Still don't think he takes this quite so easily though. Penny is very casual and she's literally crushed all of her opponents with ease. Who knows how effective she'll be once she gets serious. She's naive and childish, but not particularly dumb, using the cover of CRDL against them to catch them off guard.
Remember, Speed is equalized in this fight, so no blitzing.
Still don't think he takes this quite so easily though. Penny is very casual and she's literally crushed all of her opponents with ease. Who knows how effective she'll be once she gets serious. She's naive and childish, but not particularly dumb, using the cover of CRDL against them to catch them off guard.
Remember, Speed is equalized in this fight, so no blitzing.
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It won't be easy. I know Wave like the back of my hand, so I know it won't be a stomp. However, he has a lot more experience at fighting then she does, and stood toe to toe with Syura in a unarmed fight, in which Syura expressed, and Budo, that he is far superior in unarmed combat. But yet, Wave won, having been told by Esdeath that his potential has reached the max. So, the edge has to go to Wave in intelligence and experience.
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I'll give you the point in Intelligence and Experience due to Penny's naivete. She shouldn't be immediately overwhelmed in close combat because 1. she's a robot so it'll be metal against metal and 2. her nature gives her strength on par with Grand Chariot's. Her swords also work in close combat, so there's that too.
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Close combat, I see going to Wave as Penny doesn't really move at all. She stands in one spot and shoots swords which I don't see penetrating Grand Chariot.
Distance goes to Penny because lasers which will hurt bad.
I'd like to see how Grand Skyfall and Penny's lasers react to each other, else, I see Wave 6/10 due to skill/intelligence.
Distance goes to Penny because lasers which will hurt bad.
I'd like to see how Grand Skyfall and Penny's lasers react to each other, else, I see Wave 6/10 due to skill/intelligence.
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Wave due to recent power up and showings
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Put it this way. Penny's been shown in combat for all of three minutes, tops. Yes, Mastema reflects attacks, and yes, he has the mobility advantage. But how do we know she doesn't have other tricks up her sleeve? We don't even know her top speed or firepower (everything thus far has been extremely casual) and almost all of her stats are based on powerscaling. Heck, we don't even know her Semblance yet.
What you're doing is pitting a character with established facts about his stats and abilities against a character without established facts about her stats and abilities. It just doesn't work.
What you're doing is pitting a character with established facts about his stats and abilities against a character without established facts about her stats and abilities. It just doesn't work.
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Well, we could just make do with what we have. It's what's being done with Saitama anyway (albeit Saitama having hellofalotmore screen/panel time).
What we know of her so far.
She's strong enough to pull down a bullhead (aerial vehicle)
She has blades controlled by her thoughts, strong enough to stab through concrete and steel, and has durable enough cables to pull a bullhead down to the ground without snapping
She barely moves, seriously, her fights thus far only feature her jumping backwards, lift something or pull something with her blades and cables, then smash it to the ground
She has a laser with a long casting time, but is good enough to cut a bullhead like a hot knife through butter, and has enough range to, I guess it would be a city-block or two in distance maybe?
She is strong and durable enough to catch a speeding vehicle with only cosmetic damages (her fake skin got torn off her hands)
She is socially-inept, has deficiencies in basic human knowledge and she doesn't plan at all, she only follows orders or just reacts to danger (e.g. saving Ruby, catching the vehicle)
That's pretty much it. So, what conclusion do we draw from this? I'm still with Wave on this, especially now that he dual wields Teigus to boost his Grand Skyfall (Idk the name but it's the closest I can associate with his big-ass-jump-from-the-sky thing).
What we know of her so far.
She's strong enough to pull down a bullhead (aerial vehicle)
She has blades controlled by her thoughts, strong enough to stab through concrete and steel, and has durable enough cables to pull a bullhead down to the ground without snapping
She barely moves, seriously, her fights thus far only feature her jumping backwards, lift something or pull something with her blades and cables, then smash it to the ground
She has a laser with a long casting time, but is good enough to cut a bullhead like a hot knife through butter, and has enough range to, I guess it would be a city-block or two in distance maybe?
She is strong and durable enough to catch a speeding vehicle with only cosmetic damages (her fake skin got torn off her hands)
She is socially-inept, has deficiencies in basic human knowledge and she doesn't plan at all, she only follows orders or just reacts to danger (e.g. saving Ruby, catching the vehicle)
That's pretty much it. So, what conclusion do we draw from this? I'm still with Wave on this, especially now that he dual wields Teigus to boost his Grand Skyfall (Idk the name but it's the closest I can associate with his big-ass-jump-from-the-sky thing).
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Lol. Grand Fall. Yes. There is enough evidence to show that Wave is the conclusive victor. And if we see new things about Penny in the future we bring this back up again. That's how it works. But as of now with what we have been shown, it's a obvious victory for Wave.Gemmysaur said:
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Could've had the battle closed til more feats are introduced but..well...yeah.
Wave isn't exactly full of feats as well, hell, he gets flung out of panel for most of the fights I remember him having.
I guess he just makes use of his panel time better than Penny making friends but yeah, he does have more presence.
Wave isn't exactly full of feats as well, hell, he gets flung out of panel for most of the fights I remember him having.
I guess he just makes use of his panel time better than Penny making friends but yeah, he does have more presence.
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Wave stomps only problem is the laser but he'd be able to dodge it
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