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Weakest character that can beat Misogi Kumagawa
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come on
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Considering how broken he is... maybe a 2-C tier character
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i thinks scp 682 can
Faster character + soul manipulation = stomps
He's glass canon
He's glass canon
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you kidding me ? so itachi or nagato will stomp misogi , right ? lolShanks of the red haired pirates said:
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It depends, sort of. You need to be able to truly blitz him and soul manipulate him before he can react because All-Fiction just lets him wipe people out in an instant. So Tatsuya may be a good choice but Itachi may not.
KO'ing doesn't work, he'll just get back up.
KO'ing doesn't work, he'll just get back up.
^Pretty much this
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KO's a bust then. Tatsuya can surely strike before Kumogawa can as he doesn't care about distance. As long as he can home in on a target's code in the information dimension, he can activate Demon Right, regardless of whether its in leaping range or 5 blocks out.Alakabamm said:
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^i really doubt that tatsuyas attack can be considered "wiping out of existence", what tatsuya does is the same as dust release ,he atomizes the enemy,
while kumogawa never had someone who attacked him like that he still showed the ability to come back to life even after a week a corpse, he also has the ability to erase time, i doubt that atomization would kill him,
the needed char would require the ability to negate or overpower kumogawas allfiction, i can only imagine powrful reality warpers, otherwise he would come back no matter how many times he is blitzed (he could use allfiction on the speed of the enemy and essentially make him unable to move
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while kumogawa never had someone who attacked him like that he still showed the ability to come back to life even after a week a corpse, he also has the ability to erase time, i doubt that atomization would kill him,
the needed char would require the ability to negate or overpower kumogawas allfiction, i can only imagine powrful reality warpers, otherwise he would come back no matter how many times he is blitzed (he could use allfiction on the speed of the enemy and essentially make him unable to move
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^This. Tatsuya atomises his opponents and since Kumagawa doesn't regenerate but simply negates the death itself, damage can be ignored no matter the scale. I would also say that Kumagawa doesn't have a soul as he already erased his aura, but that is pure speculation so don't take it into account. It would either have to be a quicker reality warper or a higher dimensional being, or someone with an ability that is akin to Ihiko's.GreatestSin said:
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True that, she will literally kill All Fiction... no All Fiction = Misogi can die.KamiYasha said:
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I wonder that imagine breaker of Touma can negate all fiction ? if it can , base touma can defeat misogi
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Even without all fiction Kumagawa is too durable for Touma to kill
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^^kumogawa has way to high body stats, it would end in a one-hit head severing punch
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a punch of kumogawa is anything but supernatural (at least in medaka-verse it is a punch, and people like him are able to destroy walls with such a punch or crack concrete),Gemmysaur said:
imo: if they start long range kumogawa can erase time and speedblitz, if they start mid-range kumogawa can erase time and speedblitz, if they start close range kumogawa can punch him to death :I IB only negates what it touches, and allfiction is not really "touchable"
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I did say that Touma only has athletic to peak human speed outside of his fist hitting a supernatural entity. He gets blitzed or he gets incapped by tiring out via being unable to catch up to Kumogawa who is very much faster.GreatestSin said:a punch of kumogawa is anything but supernatural (at least in medaka-verse it is a punch, and people like him are able to destroy walls with such a punch or crack concrete),
imo: if they start long range kumogawa can erase time and speedblitz, if they start mid-range kumogawa can erase time and speedblitz, if they start close range kumogawa can punch him to death :I IB only negates what it touches, and allfiction is not really "touchable"
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Those are far from the weakest characters who can do so, however.VJF&RMF said:
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ah, sorry, i thought you mentioned it because you meant that touma was higher body-wise than kumogawa (which i can understand, if i hadnt read the series i would also be sceptical, he doesnt look impressive body-wiseGemmysaur said:
) ^that is a good question: Heaven Dio should be able to do it, i mean if he has GER than he can make zero out of kumogawas intend to use allfiction, unfortunatly i dont see how Dio can stop kumogawa fromm ressurecting, he would need to bring kumogawas will to zero and this forever
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By technicality.
In a more traditional sense of "weak", then maybe someone like Khar? This is of course only assuming he manages to hit with Gorechild, which essentially mulches Kumagawa's essence via Khorne's power.
In a more traditional sense of "weak", then maybe someone like Khar? This is of course only assuming he manages to hit with Gorechild, which essentially mulches Kumagawa's essence via Khorne's power.
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^how so? she has not the power to kill kumogawa for good and allfiction can affect her in any way kumogawa wants it,
if we use verse-equiv and say that her harness is immune to supernatural powers it would allow the alien to survive being wiped out of existence but kumogawa can still use allfiction on every power kuroneko has which wil also stop her from regenerating :I
if we use verse-equiv and say that her harness is immune to supernatural powers it would allow the alien to survive being wiped out of existence but kumogawa can still use allfiction on every power kuroneko has which wil also stop her from regenerating :I
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how is a blackhole a higher dimension?A6colute said:
it destroys the bond between atoms and even in the atom itself so that nothing remains, im not sure what is a "higher dimension" in that, if you refer to a theory about a blackhole than it stays a theorys,
as far as i know nekos blackhole is a normal one, which "should act" like a normal one (at least as far as i know how a normal blackhole works)
and before that, can you give me the general part where is was said that kumogawa cant come back from higher dimensions (if what you said is correct) ^_^
PS: he can use allfiction on the blackhole too :I
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it destroys the bond between atoms and even in the atom itself so that nothing remains
Lolwhat???
as far as i know nekos blackhole is a normal one, which "should act" like a normal one (at least as far as i know how a normal blackhole works)
No. It doesn't work as "normal" black hole.
and before that, can you give me the general part where is was said that kumogawa cant come back from higher dimensions (if what you said is correct) ^_^
No. It's YOU must give me a proof that Kumagawa is able to return from a higher dimension.
Lolwhat???
as far as i know nekos blackhole is a normal one, which "should act" like a normal one (at least as far as i know how a normal blackhole works)
No. It doesn't work as "normal" black hole.
and before that, can you give me the general part where is was said that kumogawa cant come back from higher dimensions (if what you said is correct) ^_^
No. It's YOU must give me a proof that Kumagawa is able to return from a higher dimension.
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Anyone with Cellular level attacks and MHS Speed can win easily
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this is how i think blackholes destroy the energy/matter they suck into themselfes :IA6colute said:
than how does it work?
why me? first you need to prove that "being sucked into a blackhole"="being brought into a higher dimension", and kumogawa already showed that he can come back from the dead, this suggests he can come back from at least "being dead"...
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no, kumogawas ability would bring him back from the dead, other than a reality warper who can literally warp him out of existence or a power-negating user who seals kumogawas powers forever (or takes them away) there is nobody that should be able to put him down for good
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this is how i think blackholes destroy the energy/matter they suck into themselfes :I
This BH erases even information itself.
than how does it work?
This BH erases objects and even information about objects from 3D.
first you need to prove that "being sucked into a blackhole"="being brought into a higher dimension"
All proofs in her profile.
and kumogawa already showed that he can come back from the dead
And? Even weak characters in Brynhildr can come back from the dead.
This BH erases even information itself.
than how does it work?
This BH erases objects and even information about objects from 3D.
first you need to prove that "being sucked into a blackhole"="being brought into a higher dimension"
All proofs in her profile.
and kumogawa already showed that he can come back from the dead
And? Even weak characters in Brynhildr can come back from the dead.
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there is a difference between "healing" and "negating ones own death", healing can have limits depening on the amount of injuries, but negating of death simply brings you back, not matter how fast you are killed or how badly the attack and injury was which killed youA6colute said:
but you are right, it seems like her blackhole is able to do that, i would say that kumogawa can come back from the other side so a different dimension should be working, but it is my opinion, than yes, nekos blackhole should work (but kummogawa can erase it with allfiction and it is kuronekos only attack that could put him away)
PS: im nto hyping, it is the way how his powers work
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Kumagawa can erase time for instant actions and reactions, he should be able to react to it
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