Yes because that's logically going to be the case when uniting more than one thing together. 2 things combined gives more than 1. More = stronger...
It's litteraly assuming that one of the components has negative power, which isn't the case at all.
it's an example that "combinations" aren't inherently buffs, nothing more.
The disparity in feats between Alien X and Atomic X is in the magnitudes of infinite, which demonstrates that Atomic X cannot/has not displayed the ability to use Alien X's abilities in any capacity really.To assume he can when he's fundamentally a different being than either of his components, percentage wise is less celestialsapien than a human is a monkey is ridiculous.
It isn't at all.
It literally wasn't you are making it up.
The fact that Feats alone shows otherwise, the fact that WoG alone disagree with you, the fact that Atomic x doesn't even have any feats suggesting that he is even close to Alien x in the first place ?
You are literally assuming that a fusion between an infinitely weaker character and an infinitely stronger character would make the fusion stronger without feats backing them up, this isn't the same thing when it comes to a fusion between 2 characters with similiar AP and durability as the former need feats while the latter doesn't , that's also ignoring the fact that the main reason why Ben doesn't use Alien x because using him is simply to risky for the sake of the universe due to it's immense power so if that's the case then Ben 10k isn't stupid to make a fusion stronger than Alien x if he already think that using Alien x is really risky for the Universe.
How about feats >>>>>>>> all what you are saying?
And im not. Atomic X doesn't scale (which Zamasu kindly gave a reminder of here to give clarity) but that decision had nothing to do with this weird ridiculous consensus on fusions being brought here.
There's no WoG at all and there never was.
Yes because that's the basic premise for fusion that you would see by using a concept called common sense.
Null argument. Ben has already shown to be willing to use Alien X when the situation calls for it in Omniverse. And even then, Fail Safe.
See above.
It doesn't it's like you are trying to combine a « +∞ » with « - ∞ » and you expected to have a « +∞ »
You are right about that.
There is the question got deleted for some reasons but the main question was like this :
Nothing proves that they are Outliers because Atomic x never had a single feat putting him above Alien x nor he even even demonstrated any of AX abilities in the first place.
Ben only used Alien x against Universal threats anything exept of that he doesn't as using him is simply too risky for the Universe
Atomic x was agreed to not scale in the end because he doesn't have the necessary feats to put him above Alien x while in fact he does have anti feats and on top of that why would Ben 10k chose a Universal being to face Maltruant and Vilgax who are nowhere near to that level while he has many other Aliens who could've done the job ? That alone doesn't make any sense
Again you assume one is a litteral negative which is wrong.
That doesn't really matter Atomic x still doesn't scale due to what it was displayed in the show
Which is shitty evidence that means nothing here. This is not an actual legitimate answer, its a simple leading question asked on twitter to get a quick one off answer that isn't series.
Not using abilities =/= not being in his tier.
Oh wow, a simple guide as evidence. Cool.
See above for all of this.
Nope. It should've been closed already.
A Twitter statement made by a very credible creator and the fact that it's supported by the series
Or it could just means that Kevin, Ken (Ken is rated as 5-A btw) and Gwen fighting Maltruant is a complete outlier? Not only that but I don't even remember Kevin fighting Maltruant in the first place exept of future Gwen which could be a feat for here instead.
You are saying this and it's like Ben 10k knew anything about the CTB and what it can do, him using Atomic x in that instance isn't surprising considering he even used him against Vilgax and Maltruant who are nowhere near to Low 2-C.
It doesn't? Fighting Maltruant and Vilgax is something that calls for a low 2-C being? Lol this alone shows that Atomic x being Low 2-C is a complete joke, at best Atomic x should AP should be rated as Unknown due to his feats being kind inconsistent
A Twitter statement made by a very credible creator that isn't serious and is just done to get the fan to shut up by telling them what they want to hear. That is not a serious answer.
You kinda just supported my point. Kevin Ken and Gwen fighting Maltruent is what's the outlier. Not Atomic-X
Love how you conveniently try and ignore the possibility that Ben using Atomic-X against them can also mean Ben wanted to finish them off as quickly as possible by going with what's (supposed to be anyway) his strongest alien / one of his strongest.
I don’t remember Kevin fighting him (Rook did though but I don’t think he damaged him, same as base Ben 10000). Ken was off-screen IIRC so we have no idea what happened (+ he got a suit for Paradox and the only other guy he fought is Future Doctor Animo who we still have at High 5-A, I’m gonna downgrade him though) and Gwen should have a variable tier, her shield gets broken by mid-tiers, she catches the punches of top tiers, blocks attacks from Ultimate Aggregor, fights Ultimate Kevin multiple times, has a true form that makes her the strongest being on the planet (in UA) and she even slightly hurt Dagon by powering up Chromastone to shoot beams at him. + she also targeted one of the weaker spots of Maltruant’s body + Future Gwen also fought Future Doctor Animo (who’s still High 5-A) so she has no real anti-feats for the moment either.
Literally no proof about that.
It's supported by the series as shown were Atomic x got lol stomped by Maltruant.
Kevin never faught Maltruant, Ken is literally rated as High 5-A which is consistent with him keeping up with Maltruant who is High 5-A for stomping Atomic x as for Gwen case I really don't what are you talking about she was literally getting stomped by Maltruant and she couldn't even damage him hell in fact he was literally blitzing here and dodging all of her Attacks without even using Time stop.
Which is again out of character for Ben to do that, Ben doesn't operate like that in a fight like at all and anyway that doesn't really change anything tbh
The answer itself is proof enough. A few word answers isn’t a serious answer, and we’ve literally gone over this issue so many times here on this site to explain why it isnt.
Which is inconsistent scaling as a whole that isn’t an outlier for Atomic X. I said this before.
Or Ken and Gwen are the ones who’s rating is suspect and needs to be revised. Which is what my point was about.
And since when was this not in character? Ben 10K is a genius, there is 0 reason for him to not do something as efficient as that.
Noice
How about no?
You need to give reasons why.
He's stronger than this version of Kevin, who absorbed the omnitrix when Alien X was active.
Prove he can hold back his durability.
Ultimatrix works differently apparently, not the same kind of protection as the Omnitrix would be the cause I assume. Visually UA Kevin has access to more than 10 aliens while OV Kevin seems to cap at 10.
Visually? His design is like that because of the new aliens added to Ben’s arsenal.
Gwen was able to knock him back and he was launched pretty far because of the lack of gravity.
That’d only work if you say CS’s can do literally anything...
Why would his design not reflect all of Ben’s other aliens he has access to according to you? Even Kevin 11,000 has Heatblast traits and Atomix is a newer alien. These aliens are just in the same playlist and he absorbed them.
Assuming that this isn't obvious, not only your arguments makes 0 sense but also the fact that Maltruant got one shot by the Annihilaargh (ignoring also that most of it's energy was absorbed by Feedback ) already debunk your whole argument
Do it Zamasu, make the argument, I dare you.
